Stephanie Miller

LiveBlog for Monday, October 5, 2009

rudepunditThe Rude Pundit (Lee Papa) calls in at 6:30am Pacific to talk about Rep. Grayson (D-FL) and other rudeness in the news.

Eric Boehlert, Senior Fellow for Media Matters for America, calls in at 7:05am Pacific to co-host Right Wing World.

SullivanNicole Sullivan, formerly of Mad TV, calls in at 8:30am Pacific to tell us about the second season of her Lifetime series, “Rita Rocks.”

The Obama administration is considering steps to ease the burdens of laid-off workers, including possible extensions of unemployment and health benefits, officials said Saturday. The administration has stopped short of calling for a second economic stimulus package to augment the $787 billion measure approved this year.

The White House said yesterday it sees signs of progress in confronting Iran’s nuclear program while members of Congress endorsed authorizing tougher U.S. economic penalties against the Tehran government. International inspectors are to visit Iran’s newly disclosed uranium enrichment site on October 25.

President Obama said Friday he has “no doubt” that Chicago put together the strongest bid it could to win the 2016 Olympics. He said he wished he had brought back better news from Friday’s voting in Copenhagen, where his personal appeal did not help his adopted hometown win.

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314 Responses to “LiveBlog for Monday, October 5, 2009”

  1. Dan the Man says:

    Morning Board!

    Checking in bright and early today. Unfortunately that virus problem at work caused my PC to get totally infected and had to be rebuilt. For that reason I’m going to consciously stay off of websites, so this will have to be my last live blog. Will continue to listen to the show after it airs (I’m a podscriber now) and read the posts after I get home. Keep the liveliness going!

    Happy Birthday Kate Winslet (34 today)!

    Dan

  2. flombaye says:

    EPOCH FAILURE
    not only does slang itself fall prey to the eponymous lure of “epoch failure”, the cheap trick known as grade inflation beckons even the advantaged into its surly clutches. the dreaded kim komando, self-described “digital goddess” has as recently as 2009 september, released the results of a slew of studies on the carcinogenicity of cell phones. predictably, the latest reports accorded with all previous reports, that there are consistent increases in malignant tumor frequency within the target populations. so far, so good, but here’s the sculpture of leftover scraps of swiss cheese, which nobody would even attempt to spike, much less fly, before a news-enriched audience: “….no word yet, on bluetooth….”. – - – there’s no reason a mediocre hobbyist like kim komando cant have a forum; best to take free speech to the extremes and have a marketplace for ideas, but when somebody self-appointed to the title “beloved digital goddess” is so many decades behind the news, that even mere talking points sound stale, the silence is deafening. – and unnecessary. we have charles krauthammer for that. – - – zoom ahead – - – 2009 october: obama’s lobbying effort to cynically infuse chicago with several thousand employment opportunities that would boost the value infrastructure has been bitch-slapped by the gods. what did you folks do to celebrate ?

  3. flombaye says:

    dan the man…. danarame, dannage, the danster…. “winslet” always reminds me of “doctor winston” and “doctor piglet”. – so, are they making you stay off the grail-shaped websites because they’re far too perilous ?

  4. shāf says:

    Good morning, everyone. Hope you all had a great weekend (sorry to hear about the PC propblems, Dan).

    Guess I’m not surprised that Rio won the Olympics. It will be the first time that a South American city has hosted, so they are overdue. Also, I’ve heard that the U.S.’s continuing slowness on issuing visas may have also been a factor. Who knows? Perhaps, Chi-town can win the bid for 2020.

  5. trojanrabbit says:

    Gooood morning all!

    OMG! Obama FAILED!!!! Yay, Chicago didn’t get the Olympics!!!! Ha Ha Obama FAILED!!!

    @#$king Rethugs. The only good one is a dead one. There, how’s that for hate speech.

  6. flombaye says:

    4: slowness on visas ? are you trying to visit florida ?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XtuPvwBa2U

  7. flombaye says:

    5: yes, all very fine, but how did you celebrate ? – sing songs based on the final words of ulfim bedwaer ? – bust a move on a pinata that said “ni” ? – create fire without use of flint or tinder ? – fly the jolly-roger-the-shrubber ?

  8. trojanrabbit says:

    My 1948 TV is now disassembled on my bench. Caught a little of the Patriots’ game on it before the picture faded away, as usual. While inspecting the insides (yes it was turned off) I burnt my hand on something that shouldn’t be generating any heat at all. I guess I found out what part’s gone bad. Fixing this will be a nice long project that will last the rest of the year but I really want to get this thing off my workbench. Maybe set up a “retro room” with a bunch of old electronics. Someday…..

  9. trojanrabbit says:

    7
    Yes, death awaits me, with nasty big pointy teeth.

  10. flombaye says:

    9: you can still catch the olympics, in the perilous land of rio de muerto, but you’ll need to declare your name and quest and favorite color of olympic medal. – do be careful. i hear you can easily purchase a swallow there, but it may have migratory qualities.

  11. shāf says:

    #8 Sounds like a fun project that’ll keep you occupied.

  12. flombaye says:

    8/11: this is an early stage of the borg keeping an “early editions of me” museum.

  13. trojanrabbit says:

    11
    It will definitely keep me occupied. Fortunately, when I’m done I’m pretty sure I’ll have a working set that I won’t be afraid to turn on, since it’s almost there now. If it didn’t produce any picture at all I’d be much more leery of plunking down $100 or so for parts.

  14. Last Friday, I watched the live televised announcement of the winning 2016 city by the International Olympic Committee. Of course I was disappointed, but I thought it was bad sportsmanship when Kanye West jumped onstage and said that Chicago was one of the best cities of all time.

  15. flombaye says:

    14: the buzz aldrin action alone infected me with happiness.
    http://kanyegate.tumblr.com/

  16. Gots to go do some work where the intertubes don’t work. :(

    Have fun all.

  17. shāf says:

    Later, Paul!

  18. shāf says:

    For your reading pleasure, I’ll post the link to Paul Krugman’s Op-Ed:

    The Politics of Spite
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/opinion/05krugman.html?_r=1&hp

    Excerpt:

    So what did we learn from this [Cheering at Chicago's lost Olympic bid] moment? For one thing, we learned that the modern conservative movement, which dominates the modern Republican Party, has the emotional maturity of a bratty 13-year-old.

    But more important, the episode illustrated an essential truth about the state of American politics: at this point, the guiding principle of one of our nation’s two great political parties is spite pure and simple. If Republicans think something might be good for the president, they’re against it — whether or not it’s good for America.

  19. shāf says:

    It’s Miller Time, y’alls!

  20. fester says:

    is the stream down?

  21. my pooer's dad says:

    19: Good post Shaf. As an educator, I’m responsible for the character education of my students. I teach middle schoolers, and they are generally a pretty perceptive group, when they want to be. The current political discourse, especially that from the right, makes educators jobs more difficult in this regard. How do we insist that students treat each other with respect, that bullying is wrong, the importance of telling the truth when our politicians and their talking heads act just the opposite, and the students’ parents eat it up with a spoon. Vamily values? It would be nice to see them act with some character and values.

  22. shāf says:

    But who played Aunt Flo?

  23. timnmadison says:

    Good Morning all…

  24. my pooer's dad says:

    Did I just write a Hannity run on question?

  25. shāf says:

    Watch your back, Jack, er Harrison.

  26. tralalogic says:

    did the domestic terrorist attack on the atlanta olympics taint the OIC judges perception of the US? Just asking….taint.

  27. Kay says:

    Is anyone getting the live feed, because I am not.

  28. shāf says:

    Who wasn’t in Jennifer’s Body?

  29. flombaye says:

    22: “….The current political discourse, especially that from the right, makes educators jobs more difficult in this regard. How do we insist that students treat each other with respect, that bullying is wrong, the importance of telling the truth when our politicians and their talking heads act just the opposite….”

    emphasize that as they can see thru the talking heads, people would see just as easily thru them if they act the same.

  30. flombaye says:

    27: good finish on that piece…. of course, the mind genuinely reels over the blaggo case; i really cant quite wrap any segment of my skull around the notion that jesse jackson actually replicated, and all that that entails.

  31. 32 — ding ding ding!!! :D

    There is a modicum of subversion in that that is actually culturally necessary at this point (& should be helpful w/ the kiddles)

    Good Morning, Bloggoes!! :mrgreen:

  32. Kay says:

    #30, you are the absolute best!!! Since they turned our only Progressive Radio Station into another sports station (seems like the 50th one), I have to listen through Steph’s website and my link isn’t working today…which is weird.

  33. flombaye says:

    the peril of a boost in chicago’s employment and perilous infrastructure would be far too perilous.

  34. flombaye says:

    35: shaf is good, but the absolute best ?
    what then of neil degrasse tyson ?
    what of alan grayson ?
    and what of barry newman’s work in “petrocelli” ?

  35. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    I thought skunks were weasels

  36. flombaye says:

    green democrats will form solar death panels.

  37. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Good morning mookenbloggies!

    We should *all* be too rich to be bought off.

  38. shāf says:

    #35 “No need to thank us, it’s what we do.”

  39. flombaye says:

    41: did roman polanski properly thank you and doctor winston and doctor piglet ?

  40. Good morning, fellow MookenBloggsters. Sorry I’m late, what have I missed?

  41. flombaye says:

    let’s not bicker and argue about ooo raped ooo.

  42. Elizabeth says:

    Streaming is down for me too.

  43. Kiss tonight at the Garden. I wish mini-Kiss was opening the show.

  44. I haven’t logged into my twitter account in weeks, but I’m still getting new followers. I must be AWESOME!!!

  45. flombaye says:

    43: major grail-shaped websites have been constructed by roman polanski in a zoot-suit, a bad, wicked, evil naughty zoot-suit, to help TR reconstruct a broken TV. – at some point, kanye will let him finish, but humpty-hump had the best crash and fall of all time.

  46. flombaye says:

    47: i read the entries describing how you were logging back on. excellent narrative drama.

  47. shāf says:

    Unless there’s a clause in CBS’s contract with Worldwide Pants that hold them (WP) to CBS’s HR policies, there’s no ground to punish Dave or the show.

  48. my pooer's dad says:

    I think the repugs have proven that they have no moral ground when it comes to talking about other’s sexual indiscretions.

  49. HOw do you all feel about work emails being sent via Facebook? is that a good thing?

  50. Just an opinion, but Liquid Compass sucks the bag. I’ve been completely happy with the KTLK link. Liquid Compass should be strung up for the meth guitar loop they play during the 6 minutes on each hour, if their service were perfect. But, of course, Liquid Compass reliability is piss poor..

    Just sayin’.

  51. flombaye says:

    and i just found page 4.
    yo, stephanie….
    http://kanyegate.tumblr.com/page/4

  52. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    The 13 year old in Mama’s basement is demanding a maternity test.

  53. shāf says:

    Mentioning sex and Bill-O so early in the morning? IJTUIMMALB!

  54. shāf says:

    If caller Mark were a little more nasal, I’d say he’s doing a Woody Allen impersonation.

  55. Morning, all.

    Caller’s a little extreme on this. There is the DANGER of disparate power relationships leading to non-consentual (or less-than-fully-consentual) relationships. But to categorically say that it does is rubbish.

  56. my pooer's dad says:

    Technically, the caller is right, but I don’t know what point he’s trying to make.

  57. shāf says:

    The nuclear-winter word? Yikes!

  58. spudsquad says:

    Is it just me or did it sound like that Mark guy was either running in place or doing some ‘other’ physical activity while talking to you guys???

  59. Wendy Mitchell says:

    I’ve attended compulsory sexual harassment training in two different states and in both a sexual relationship between a superior and subordinate were characterized as inherently non-consenual. However, that can David Letterman or WWP sued, should somebody choose to claim harassment–not get him thrown in jail where Roman Polanski belongs.

  60. my pooer's dad says:

    Just don’t talk about her boobs.

  61. 65 — What boobs? I know nothing about any boobs.

  62. Gotta specify WHICH KTLK. The Min/St. Paul is a right-wing stankhole.

  63. rlritt says:

    It’s not against the law for a boss and subordinate to have an affair unless he threatens to fire her if she doesn’t do it. It may be inappropriate, especially in certain businesses, but it’s not illegal.

    A rich and good looking celebrity man has sex with a woman who works with him. What a shocker!

  64. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #8: Trojanrabbit: Love the 1948 TV! How about a retro living room to go with it? A DVD of the few surviving kinescoped TV shows of the era, plus your local station’s test card to fill in the gaps. And a big old radio with a glowing green tube in it, for the Stephanie Miller show (she was just a little girl back then :-) ).

  65. 67 — Yeah, I had always assumed that radio call letters were like snowflakes. whuddup widdat?

  66. flombaye says:

    63: maybe not “physical” necessarily. he sounds the same way while watching “xanadu”. gene kelly dangerous roller skate bloopers are not only funny, they are also useful as taylor hicks choreography.

  67. spudsquad says:

    who can answer the question of “why do some people feel the need to NAME their boobs?” or call them ‘the girls’?? I have two female children that I call the girls and so I find it clearly an offense… just kidding- I really just think its weird. They are just boobs for goodness sake!

  68. flombaye says:

    68: i love david letterman, but he’s good-looking ? that IS a shocker. who knew ?

  69. #72, I feel the same about people who name their cars, or musical insturments.

    With the exception of Lucille, B.B. King’s guitar. That’s appropriate.

  70. 72 — john thomas? Willie? U. S. S. Enterprise?

  71. Steve says:

    Whoopi’s first attempt at the story was botched. She was saying that Polanski was not charged with rape. The charges were plea bargained down. It happens all the time.

    It is akin to killing someone, what the vast majority of people would agree and call murder. Because the individual pled to the lesser charge of manslaughter, does not make the victim less dead. Or, a victim less raped.

    It is our legal system that is called into question. It is our desire to add shades of grey, to murder, rape and robbery. First degree, second degree, etc. Whoopi wanted it to be recognized that he was not charged with rape.

    Legally, Polanski was charged and accepted a plea agreement to some shade of grey for ’sexual assault’, but not rape.

    Yep, a technicality, and even a difference without distinction, but that is our legal system.

    Yep, Whoopi botched it, but the real story is why does our legal system allows the rapist of a 13 year old to use and find shades of grey in the law to lessen their penalty for what we all know is rape?

  72. hullo
    behind the power curve arredy this foul a.m.
    hope yer all doin’ better than I

  73. tim in madison says:

    I dont know why some woman name there boobs. Why do some guys name there penis?

  74. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #32: see through the Talking Heads? You mean you could tell they were really art students?

  75. spudsquad says:

    I suppose naming the ‘male’ part of the anatomy is appropriate because, afterall, they nearly always are an entity of their own… They think for themselves quite often… but not boobs- unless you are referring to some people you know as boobs…

  76. flombaye says:

    70: okay, people, you asked for it.

    WALKENIZED t-shirt:

    sex is like snow.
    you never know how many inches you’ll get,
    or how long it will last.

    or whether what starts on the roof of the car will fall to the ground

    or whether to wear your new snowshoes

    or how much of it you can catch with your tongue

    or how many balls will slam you in the face

    or how slippery it will be while on the way to work

  77. Rudi was discussing that gross, dew-lapped toddler wallowing
    happily in his own soiled diaper, Rush. These were my thoughts
    on his crapulence over the weekend:

    I give The Double Fig to Flush Dim-Bulb, and whatever
    drug-addled Ape’s Paternoster he’s chattering today. He’s
    wrong whatever opinion he spews. The same goes for those
    other bitter, insentient demagogues of the Right: Hannity,
    Savage, Levine, Beck, and so on, ad nauseum.

    The are all baboons or marmosets. And I mean that in the
    original French sense of the words. That is, no disresptect
    to our simian cousins, who never act like these idiots of
    the Right, these paid shills of the Corporatocracy.
    “Baboon” and “marmoset” both come from French words that
    mean “grotesque figure”. There is no more apt description.

    “An Ape is an Ape a varlet’s a varlet, though they be clad
    in silk or in scarlet”

    “The higher the Ape goes the more he shows his tail”… or
    as in this case, his anal cyst. None of the Right Wing
    Tooles got a freedom loving bone in their bodies; they are neo-fascists. The Pox on them.
    or as Kathleen observed, Republicans First Americans Second.

  78. 81
    it’s too early to be laughing that hard
    it hurts

  79. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #78: because we can!

  80. flombaye says:

    72: “who can answer the question of “why do some people feel the need to NAME their boobs?””

    scientists have already located at least 4 such persons. coincidentally, one of them is simon cowell, and one is ryan seacrest. please let us know what answer they give you.

  81. tim in madison says:

    81

    I live in Wisconsin.. I am putting that on my page.
    or on a t-shirt

    Thanks thats will make great x-mas gifts

  82. my pooer's dad says:

    78: There’s no point in a man naming his penis. It would be like naming a cat; it’s just going to do what it wants anyway.

  83. flombaye says:

    74: well, you cant really blame kenny rogers for the ballad angrily roasting the car which he derisively named “loose-wheel”.

  84. tim in madison says:

    87… Thats Ture. It does do what it wants to do.

  85. Smithers, after his anti-gay shot… “I love boobies!”

  86. my pooer's dad says:

    Rush just made a bit admission – “The hatred in this country has not abated.” And just who cheers it on, Rush?!

  87. spudsquad says:

    85 Colin & Ryan have named their boobs?? Or should I say Moobs?? (for man-boobs)

  88. tim in madison says:

    90.

    LOL. I think i need that shot. Just to try to see what it would be like, for one day.

  89. flombaye says:

    78: “Why do some guys name there penis?”

    a combination of phenobarbitol, dog’s thorazine biscuits, red wine, and appalling syntax it is.

  90. oh you had to bring up the Afghani. OK… here
    A winning strategy for Afghanistan!

    Use our strength against their weakness. They are no more
    ready to resist our kultcha than the indians were to defend
    against a blanket full of smallpox.
    Drop every rubber-boob’d hoor we got over there! Every
    bleach-blonde big haired big tittied porno star, hell, send
    Britney Spears! Portable back-pack Meth labs, hookers and
    blow, porno books, crack, ecstasy, Marlboros… it’s
    a JUGgernaught that can’t be stopped. We want Afghanistan
    to be like a mini-me version of us, so send them that which
    makes us us! Draft Larry Flynt and Al Goldstein. It can be
    their finest hour. The time for all patriotic Americans to
    step forward is now.
    Seal the borders. No opium gets out, but we WILL help them
    refine it all. And free needles!

    Sure they will Try to resist. The mullahs will fulminate
    against our offensive. They can scream all they want, but
    when they see those sluts in push-up nippleless bras and
    crotchless panties they will be defenseless. It can’t
    lose. The place will collapse in no time. The insurgency
    will quickly implode on itself. At last, the light at the
    end of the tunnel!

  91. #76, actually Polanski pled down to “illegal sex with a minor”.

    From what I’ve been reading, the German magazine Die Stern did a lot of digging in the 4 months between the incident and the plea. Apparently the girl, with full knowledge of her parents, was known in the club scene for drinking and low-end drug use, and was already allegedly sleeping with older connected men as a shortcut into becoming a fashion model. In the end, the girl refused to testify against Polanski on the advice of HER OWN lawyer, which is why most of the charges were dropped and the plea deal was offered.

    Polanski was definitely guilty with unlawful sex with a minor, and he should have faced the music on that one. But clearly the victim became very uncooperative all of a sudden after her credibility was damaged, and the DA didn’t think he had a case.

  92. my pooer's dad says:

    The right is hoping for a Jimmy Carter repeat. If Obama isn’t successful in cleaning up Bush’s mess, the repugs are hoping to recapture the government for 12 years or more following.

  93. 93 theory: people like boobies ’cause they’re nice
    comforting even

  94. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    The problem with the phrase “during wartime” (hey, another Talking heads ref) is that the “war on terror” is a war without end.

  95. Rove lives in a world where true is lies, black is white… like
    Momma says, Bizarro World

  96. my pooer's dad says:

    98: Boobies = comfort food.

  97. Karl Rove definitely needs to be beaten about the head and shoulders..

  98. k to the g says:

    Morning all! Bush would have bombed Denmark by now and we’d be eating Feeedom Pastry.

  99. flombaye says:

    99: zackly. i dont even blame diarrherun the gardner for taking the stand and responding to a charge of double homicide with “give a break, judge; i’m an orphan”. he’s a very limited excuse for a form of life – - – but the failure at follow-up is real and inexcusable failure.

  100. 102 oh yeah. Beaten Senselessly. into a pulp. smash that
    smarmy smirk off that bastard’s face

  101. Evil Dick Cheney on Karl Rove: “I had an awful job keeping
    him off the negro boys. He had a frightful lust for brown
    bottoms, because when he was at school he was kicked by a
    man with brown shoes.”

    Bushie was the runt of the litter; it’s quite easily
    discernible that he had been kicked down to the hind teat:
    the crease in the side of his head is still remarkably obvious.

  102. my pooer's dad says:

    103: Yeah, could you imagine the anti-Europe, anti-South American, rhetoric from the right if a republican was in office?

  103. 99 Perpetual War For Perpetual Peace
    “Ah’m a War President Ah Need Unlimited Powers FOREVER” — some twink

  104. Having a complete sack like Limbaugh trying to slime him is another indication of President Obama’s general righteousness.

    In spite of Lindsey Graham’s recent comments about Beck and the birthers, no responsible adult Republican has stepped up to reclaim their party.

    As long as the likes of Limbaugh/Beck/Hannity/O’Reilly/Savage/Coulter/Maiken/Ingraham/ and a dozen other right wing media assholes represent the Republican Party, there is no hope for them.

    It’s OK, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Republicans out of power for at least a couple of decades.

  105. flombaye says:

    102: “head and shoulders” may be an overly optimistic physiological distinction in the case of rove. i think that what you have here is a product of jack nicholson loose in the laboratory.

    “how do you write traitors in time of war so well ?”

    “i think of a weeble. and then i take away reason, and accountability”.

  106. 97 — IF this country does that, then we deserve to have the same fate as Spain in the 1500s, when it went from being the leading political and military power in the world to a virtual backwater, due to debt and foreign misadventures. Obama is, imo, a half-assed corporate liberal, but he’s our half-assed corporate liberal, and the basket all our eggs are in.

    dammit.

  107. 111 true, no discernable shoulders/neck/head on that thing

  108. flombaye says:

    the bargain of the jargon is from the jew that is true.

    the behavin’ of the flavin is like beck nevermore ravin’.

  109. I love how Media Matters hoists these right wingers up by their own petards.

    Criticizing Asshole O’Reilly is a recommendation – O’Reilly deserves every lick he gets, and more.

  110. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #73: When Dave whips off that rubber mask, he’s actually pretty studly.

    (and – once again – too bad he couldn’t keep it in his World-Wide Pants)

  111. 112 I kinda like reading the history of España circa 1550 or so.
    Damned Illuminating. Good point

  112. 116 I was thinking the same thing: World Wide Pants around ankles

  113. 111: that’s as good as it gets, unfortunately..

  114. Sorry, Annoying Asshole back flopped on couch/reaping the
    kitchen/Hitler Channel on permanently/kitchen trashed…
    gotta get out of here soon

  115. flombaye says:

    116: there is no “off” position on dave’s switch.
    i remember the pain of laffing around the carpet when dave had the christmas gifts that didnt quite make it. this is when they revealed the rabid dog shaving cream dispenser.

  116. shāf says:

    Shout-out to Mark!

  117. k to the g says:

    Yay Mark!

  118. Shout out to Me! Thank you Steph/Chris!
    Made my day, week, month…

    btw, nice sailor suit today Momma! my fave outfit of yours

  119. flombaye says:

    mark, you da beast.

  120. 114 ya gotta marmoset in yer world wide pants? yer talkin crazy
    talk again… I like it

  121. I voted for Kucinich in the primary. I’m SO not Kyle!

  122. Numbers are definitely non-partisan things.

    Privately, right-wing supply-side economists will admit that supply side is awful economic theory, but “good politics”.

  123. flombaye says:

    integers have a well known liberal bias.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIlwFpz9s_I&feature=related

  124. my pooer's dad says:

    112 – Yes, I don’t think I could put up with another 12 years of a Regan-like government.

  125. No, Thomas Friedman is just a neoliberal hack.

  126. 112 “Obama is, imo, a half-assed corporate liberal, but
    he’s our half-assed corporate liberal” — Maddy

    He’s got the Democratic Party to feed. Plus if he REALLY tried
    to change things I think he’d end up like JFK…

  127. flombaye says:

    131: because of the spinning head, or the pea soup ?
    is the antipathy toward father mark meron ?

  128. 132 Thomas Friedman!
    beneath
    contempt

    loath that bastarde

  129. k to the g says:

    Somebody is PAYING the wingnuts to say crazy things FOR A REASON and it’s not a good one. Stop trying to make sense of them.

  130. Just wanted to say howdy to Mark drunken biker old paratrooper in Deetown

  131. #136, his latest column isn’t bad – but then, a stopped clock and all that.

  132. shāf says:

    #136 Indeed, how many corners did he say we turned in Iraq?

  133. flombaye says:

    134: the stache whips the lash with the tectonics of cash.

    the flagon with the dragon was the brew to get you waggin’.

  134. Steve Pipenger says:

    I have to say…every time I hear the “give him a chance” meme, I want to throw up. As a GLBT American, I see that Obama is not only NOT doing anything affirmatively to keep his promises on DADT, DOMA etc., but I read that he is affirmatively acting against those who are trying to overturn the policy. In addition, there are so many things Obama has REALLY screwed up: Bagram Air Base (his Gitmo), keeping military commissions, Afghanistan and continuing TARP. My criticism, and what I wish Stephanie, et al. would realize, is that Obama is actually affirmatively hurting on these fronts.

  135. http://www.markmarek.org/

    Creator of such goodies as New Wave Comix, Hercules Amongst the
    North Americans, and Dirty Father Harry. Be sure to visit the
    Sexy Bitches page

  136. flombaye says:

    well, the problem is, the olympics arent competitive.

  137. He’s got the Democratic Party to feed. Plus if he REALLY tried to change things I think he’d end up like JFK…

    Have you heard the rhetoric against him lately? I’m scared for him anyway, but it doesn’t change the fact that he’s a lot more status quo than people seem to think, and it’s CRAZY to me that he’s viewed as a raving radical. I see him as being to the right of Clinton (Reagan Democrat)

  138. flombaye says:

    142: yeah, balance is important. in retrospect, maybe i shouldnt have lobbied so ferociously in 1980 to give mark david chapman a chance.

  139. Steve Pipenger says:

    131: I think we already there.

  140. 145 the Rethugs want some mouth breathing yahoo to kill our President,
    they are pretty open about it. Or better, have one of the Operatives
    kill him and let some ignorant yahoo take the fall, Lee Owald.
    The Lone Nut Family Tree: apparently the ONLY assassinations that
    EVER happen in America are done by Lone Nuts. Huh!?

  141. 149 — how much does a lone nut cost these days, do ya think?

  142. #142, my issue is the National Security State and transparency, both areas Obama has completely reversed on his campaign promises, and is being dragged kicking and screaming into the rule of law by the ACLU and the courts.

  143. 142 Military Commissions Act, Patriot Act, Gitmo, Bhagram, still
    Wars… I still like Obama I’m still waiting for him to roll
    back War/Empire/Police State… hoping

  144. k to the g says:

    I think Obama is on a learning curve. I don’t think he anticipated the virulent racist attacks. It seems to me he’s biding his time. That said, he’s pissing away the liberal base he desperately needs.

  145. 147 Mark David Chapman: Just Another Lone Nut! Put him in a cell
    with Beatles Fan Charlie Manson

  146. shāf says:

    If we could put Jim’s voice on Fred’s physical look, it would be a killer Obama.

  147. flombaye says:

    butt people are getting antsy ?
    OUCH !!

  148. Obama did half-measures on the stimulus; he reneged on his “one brigade a month” promise.

  149. 150 they’ve flooded the market with Lone Nutters, the price
    has dropped drastically, although as famously observed by
    Mr. Flombe, price of Rat’s Ass inversely proportional, skyrocketing
    thru the roof

  150. flombaye says:

    150: i’d give up one nut to find out the answer.

  151. Chinless is another Republican Wax Figure..

  152. Steve Pipenger says:

    151: I want to agree with you…I really do, but with the daily capitulation and what seems to be so many poor calculations, I wonder. It’s one thing to see “let’s wait.” It’s another thing to work against these things he talked about in the campaign…state secrets, etc. (which his justice department has argued in briefs seeking to dismiss FOIA suits.

  153. Part of it is we just need to END THE PROCEDURAL FILIBUSTER.

    Either go back to the “stand and read from phone books all night” filibuster, or get rid of the things. It only takes 51 votes (ruled such in 1975 by VP Nelson Rockefeller).

    The filibuster has almost never been used to stop right-wing initiatives, but it’s used all the time to stop progressive initiatives.

  154. Create a climate of fear, introduce a Strategy of Tension,
    cause the people to call for a Police State,

    Hillside Strangler Manson Family Symbionese Liberation Army
    Zodiac Killer Church of Satan Jim Jones People’s Temple
    and so on and so on

    seems funny that all this so suddenly descended on us, just
    at the time the CIA was doing all the MKULTRA Mind Kontrol/
    Society Control Social Engineering “projects”

  155. I thought he had enough of a majority with him in congress that this stuff was gonna be a cakewalk.

    You can apologize for the slowness all day long, but the fact is, there are things he should have been able to accomplish by now that he hasn’t. I think it’s because the Democrats talk a much better game than they play.

  156. Since when did the Repubs give a rat’s ass about unemployment?

  157. wolfmann says:

    The Republican Party elected Michael Steele as the first African-American chairman of the GOP. That shows you, the Republican Party isn’t just for stuffy, old white guys anymore. There’s plenty of room for stuffy, old black guys, too.

  158. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Sound the horn! Sound the horn! Sound the horn! Sound the horn!

  159. k to the g says:

    Hey, just imagine for a moment Grampy and Nutbag in the White House. Makes Obama look pretty good.

  160. 162 1975 VP Nelson Rockyfeller… dead of heart attack on
    top of Mistress Megan Marshak…

  161. flombaye says:

    154: bad description, but good serendipity.
    charles was never really a beatle fan.
    charles just knew what makes a good cultural talking point
    for a particular talking audience.

    i call it good serendipity, because i’m sure you can see how jesus is plugged into the same equations in slightly different pimping and pandering context.

  162. 168 “the Grampy And Nutbag Show” — to the tune of “the Itchy and
    Scratchy Show”

  163. What should have been done was to ignore the Republicans completely, about 4 months ago. Screw them, ignore them.

  164. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    There is no Wii …. on my ‘48 TV.

  165. flombaye says:

    160: right wing, wax on.

  166. Yes, Obama’s half-measures have pulled us from the brink. But it’s not enough – unless he gets bolder soon, unemployment – which lags economic growth even in the best of times – will drag us back down.

  167. 168 — imagine what we’re gonna get when this country, disappointed in Obama, swings back to the right again. I think you’ll be missing the guy with the onion on his belt…

  168. 170 The J-man was a Mac-Daddy? Mary Magdalene, check her out

  169. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    I was just in Albuquerque over the weekend. I heard on the radio that Mini-Kiss is playing Albuquerque on Halloween.

  170. flombaye says:

    163: also too, the feedback loops of news reportage tightened. before the revolutions in speed of transmitting images, people mostly saw the next day’s wolves at the scene of the slaughter, along with crimes clearly performed by creatures with opposable thumbs, and figured that werewolves did the killing. the 1960s in the west was one of those times where/when the feedback loops tightened dramatically.

  171. Here’s another cute animal website for mama: Disapproving Rabbits -http://www.disapprovingrabbits.com/

  172. Amy Outside of DC says:

    Just because people (falsly thought) Obama was a miracle worker and would magically fix all this country doesn’t mean he’s really a magical negro.

  173. 176 this country can’t afford that swing. Rethugs got the
    pendulum shoved so far over left is center right is nazi…
    or more like Caesarism

  174. flombaye says:

    165: probably stems from the announcement that disney no longer requires the services of those 2 meter tall rats that had infested their theme parks.

  175. k to the g says:

    176. Swings back to Newt you mean? I’m betting it’ll be more of an Alan Grayson trend, frankly.

  176. repost:
    The rethugs are morally deformed, malformed. Twisted in a
    grotesque fashion and blind to their disfigurement. Possessed
    of a stunted, vestigial conscience, a profound blindness to
    their own repulsive, misbegotten crooked-back selves… textbook definitions of sociopaths, unable to put themselves in any
    one else’s shoes, incapable of compassion or empathy.

  177. Marc says:

    To add to the health care horror stories.

    My father (77, retired) had an abscessed tooth. He has health insurance, but it only covers one dental checkup a year. He would get Delta Dental to have better dental coverage, but his current health insurance won’t let him get it! So to keep his insurance he has to do without decent dental coverage, and had to pay $5,000 to get his tooth fixed.

  178. flombaye says:

    168: absolutely for realz:
    and i snapped the photo to prove it.
    yesterday at the home depot,
    saw a mercury-cougar.
    sticker: mccain-palin.
    coincidence ?

  179. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #180 They are cute, but the angry rabbit comments don’t work. Rabbits just don’t look threatening (unless you’re watching Watership Down).

  180. 179 nice observations… and argues that it’s TV that’s
    at least part of the prollem. I think in the 50s as TV
    spread across the country you could see the level of
    violence go up in small towns as TeeVee arrived.

    What a wonderful tool of social control/manipulation…

  181. my pooer's dad says:

    Gotta go laddies and gentlemen. Hope you all sparta today.

  182. 185 — that’s a very optimistic bet. I don’t know if I like your odds.

  183. flombaye says:

    177: yeah, that’s about the gist, according to “jesus christ, vampire hunter, the musical”.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRFdxeJBxxk

  184. 189 Hi Amy!
    watch out for the Savage Rabbit
    you need the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

  185. flombaye says:

    185: the republican plan:
    dont get turned into a newt.

    and if you do get turned into a newt,
    the republican plan:
    get betta, quickly.

  186. shāf says:

    #194 I warned yew!

  187. k to the g says:

    Oh, Rude will be up on Stephanie Miller after the show? bow chicka bow.

  188. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #171: they wink
    and stink
    they wink and wink and stink
    wink wink wink, stink stink stink
    the Grampy And Nutbag Show!

  189. 184 rat infested Disney

    Disney a Mind Kontrol Op… just look at all the freaked out
    former Mouseketeers

    brainwashing yer kids

  190. shāf says:

    Excellent montage, Shane-O!

  191. flombaye says:

    194: brother maynard’s plan: dont count to five before lobbing thy holy hand grenade. – if thou doest count inadvertantly to five, five being not the number of the counting, thou shalt die quickly.

  192. shāf says:

    Yep, it’s a Royalle with Cheese (per Pulp Fiction)

  193. Marc says:

    Pretty much proves Rush was lying when he said he wasn’t rooting for America to fail, just Obama’s policies. Well the Olympics is not a policy, and America has lost out on this, while Rush and others are cheering. Rush wants America to fail.

  194. saw that story in Detroit.

    Southfield… Ferndale

    guys run out on Momma all the time, stealing her SUV on the way

  195. McDonald’s in ANY museum? Bad idea.

    At the Houston Museum of Natural Science, we had a small privately operated restaurant. No one used it, but it wasn’t bad and was a good fit for the museum.

    Then they replaced it with a McDonald’s. The whole museum was instantly overwhelmed with trash. Even the areas where you weren’t supposed to take food or drink.

  196. flombaye says:

    check outta beeg brrain on dear readerr. “rroyarre with cheeese”. becausah huffa metwic system…

  197. k to the g says:

    COCK, Steph!

  198. shāf says:

    “Cock ‘uh cock ‘uh pit” Mama’s Freudian Slip is showing.

  199. 198 Ezra Pound, Cantos 52-71: “Shit and religion always
    stinking together.”

  200. Love Jim Ward’s Indian Airline Pilot

  201. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Steph stumbles over a cock …. AGAIN!?

  202. shāf says:

    Oh, shiest!

  203. flombaye says:

    199: justin timberlake is fine and in many ways above average. – if you’re going to let brittney spears be treated as an influence upon the average, rather than an anomaly, you may as well say most multicellular life forms are stupider than the unicellular because of the impact of alan keyes and michelle malkin upon the average.

  204. Amy Outside of DC says:

    Correction to #189 Rabbits aren’t scary unless they’re in Watership Down, Monty Python’s Holy Grail, or you are Anya from Buffy The Vampire Slayer.

  205. GATT/Nafta/WTO… killing us

    thank you caller

  206. k to the g says:

    It’s not ALL Obama’s job is it? WTF about congress?

  207. #217, what about Obama’s cabinet?

    Where is Holder?

  208. k to the g says:

    215. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

  209. Must depart

    Love you all

    Miss you til next time

    somebody tell Momma to put her pants back on

  210. flombaye says:

    205: i’ve never understood new york style raving over particular foods or particular delis…. “if all you got to do to get a good spot in line is kill your grandmother with a potato peeler, do it. this place is great. the prosciutto will make you want to stick straws into your nose and ears soze you can absorb it faster…” – but that being said, they do have an avocado turkey sandwich at that main deli in the presidio, that will put san francisco on the map. pretty close to sex, really.

  211. shāf says:

    Can you hear the drums, Fernando?

  212. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #204: Mama’s dogs bail on her all the time… she sends them to the liquor barn to stock up but they just drive right past it and keep on going.

  213. #216, amen.

    The thing is, the average job creation rate for Republicans for the last 80 years is 1.25% per year. The average Dem rate is like 3.25% per year.

    Clinton – with the Free Trade paradigm – managed a measly 2.5%. That’s the brilliant economy free-trade Dems like to laud. “Double the Republicans” is a low bar, when the average Dem – absent Clinton – is triple the Republican average.

    Free trade is killing us. Mainly because we’re the only ones practicing it.

  214. k to the g says:

    122 Americans die EVERY DAY from lack of health insurance (Grayson on Bill Press show) 122 every day.

  215. flombaye says:

    222: a bit too busy. nando will have to field this one on his own.

  216. What’s next for Afghanistan? McDonald’s & Dunkin’ Donuts! Make sure the new Megan Fox movie is in at least 500 theaters around the country, and make sure the local TJ Maxxes are well stocked with the latest in stylish burkas!

  217. k to the g says:

    223. They set the navi to Sheboygan Bark Park

  218. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #225 122 poor and middle class Americans die every day…. see why it doesn’t matter? Congressmen and corporate thugs won’t be dying from lack of health insurance, so why should they care?

  219. shāf says:

    #224 From St Ronnie on, it’s been a race to the bottom on labor expenses. Every few years, a new third-world population is exploited and the U.S. loses more jobs. It’s got to stop!

  220. flombaye says:

    is todd likely to share either of those talents ?

  221. Amy Outside of DC says:

    Sarah Palin has talents, but how much moose and meth do you need in the White House?

  222. flombaye says:

    232: sarah has moved on to killing squirrel.

  223. flombaye says:

    glenn beck, i’m real happy for you, and i’m a let you buy more rope, but torquemada was the greatest empty-headed fool with a bully-pulpit of all time !

  224. k to the g says:

    SNL has generally sucked for 20 years. They’ll try anything. Meh.

  225. #234, that’s because she can see Boris and Natasha’s house from Wasilla.

  226. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    I sure liked Nichole Sullivan in “King of Queens” — I still think that show was one of the best in the Frasier-Friends-Seinfeld golden era of sitcoms.

    Largely, it was because of the shows exceptional line-up of supporting characters, including Sullivan. (She was Jerry Stillers’ dog walker.)

  227. 237 — Agree w/ you. The thing that ruined SNL is that they realized people were watching the show. The original premise was “Nobody’s gonna be home watching TV on a saturday night, we can do whatever we want!” The moment self consciousness crept into the equation, the whole thing was pretty much beat.

  228. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    61 with an asterisk?

  229. flombaye says:

    kanye meets chuck norris factage…
    page 12: http://kanyegate.tumblr.com/page/12

  230. k to the g says:

    McChrystal could be a Cheney plant. Just sayin.

  231. flombaye says:

    241: somehow, they got trapped in a doldrum predicated upon the conehead appearance on “family feud”….

    “name something you bite.”

    “THE BIG ONE !!”

  232. Steve Pipenger says:

    I’m very disappointed about Obama…especially as a gay American. But let me just say I appreciate all you people to give me a shoulder to cry (figuratively, of course) on.

  233. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    What’s kind of amazing about SNL is that it cycles between sucking and fantastic.

    I can’t think of any other show like that — the best show starts great, eventually suck and then are canceled, never to return again.

    But SNL sprung-back to several really great eras. — often not recognized to the general public until later.

  234. flombaye says:

    cuban missile crisis….. chicago olympics crisis….

  235. Caroline says:

    I think its worth noting that the Olympic decision was not a popularity contest. Rio bid 14 billion, the largest bid by any country, and it was guaranteed by the Brazilian government. Chicago bid 5 billion.

  236. JFK in Vietnam — let’s think for a moment about Henry Cabot Lodge and the whole Diem fiasco.

    It’s not Gulf of Tonkin, but it’s a stop on the road to it…

  237. shāf says:

    #240 I also loved Nicole as Miss Tracey in Scrub (a recurring character). Nicole can play comedy and drama very well.

  238. shāf says:

    Missed the “s” in “Srcubs”

  239. k to the g says:

    Mad TV, In Living Color – both much better than SNL

  240. Amy Outside of DC says:

    Love you on Family Guy, Nicole!

  241. 253 — both inconsistent, as sketch comedy usually is. SNL at its best is absolutely as good as it gets. SCTV was another show that could really invert yer cranium, but could also shrink it.

  242. flombaye says:

    253: i like that depressed persian samurai fire marshall stuart.

  243. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    I’ve been wondering about this all weekend: what does it say about the quality of CBS/48Hours journalism that one of their producers (a) tried to blackmail Letterman and (b) botched it up like a complete idiot? Their hiring bar must not be too high these days – I guess “Murrow’s boys” left the building a long time ago.

  244. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Steve Pipenger says:
    >> I’m very disappointed about Obama…especially as a gay American. But let me just say I appreciate all you people to give me a shoulder to cry (figuratively, of course) on.

    I’m straight, so I won’t pretend to understand your feelings.

    However, can you understand why gay-rights issues have been upstaged in this first year?

    The problem, as I understand it, is that pro-gay politics expends tremendous amounts political capital for negligible electoral gains. (Or maybe even even electoral losses.)

    It’s lousy for you guys. Even so, I would TOTALLY support Obama if (when?) he makes the effort.

  245. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    Grow a set of what?

  246. shāf says:

    But, then you’ll have people bugging you about not having your dog neutered (even though he is).

  247. k to the g says:

    Freddy is listening at home and is he pissed :twisted:

  248. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    Oh, sheesh. She’s a dog lover. Steph will lover Sullivan for ever.

  249. flombaye says:

    255: rick moranis and dave thomas did much more convincing woody allen and bob hope imitations than woody allen and bob hope could ever do. absolutely nailed the voices and the mannerisms.

    BH: just one thing, you cast this diane keaton. nice girl,
    pretty, but couldnt you cast an actress with you know….
    [holds out hands groping invisible globes]

    WA: what ? you want an actress with arthritis ? why would this character need to have arthritis ?

  250. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:
    >> I’ve been wondering about this all weekend: what does it say about the quality of CBS/48Hours journalism that one of their producers (a) tried to blackmail Letterman and (b) botched it up like a complete idiot? Their hiring bar must not be too high these days – I guess “Murrow’s boys” left the building a long time ago.

    I kind-of doubt it means anything specifically about that show.

    It is one more piece of evidence (like we needed more) showing that media people have far more money and influence than they deserve.

  251. flombaye says:

    264: yo, dog, page 6 teaches the way.
    http://kanyegate.tumblr.com/page/6

  252. k to the g says:

    Dog in car talking to dog on lawn:
    “Ha ha Bif, after we go to the drug store and post office I’m going to the vets
    to get tutored.”

    from Far Side

  253. #266, don’t forget MTV’s The State.

  254. flombaye says:

    266: exsqueeze me ?

  255. It’s gonna be close on the Sparta thing. Everybody blather like loons, and we can do it! :D

  256. shāf says:

    Love “Wait, Wait…” :)

  257. k to the g says:

    S

  258. flombaye says:

    “ensign, you’re heading for an ethic fail !”

  259. shāf says:

    #274 Everybody blather like loons, and we can do it!

    And that’s different for any other time we blog? ;)

  260. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #263: “Freddy is listening at home and is he pissed”

    He’s lying on the fainting couch where he knows he’s not allowed to be… and now that he’s been humiliated on national radio, he’s going to leave Mama a little surprise…

  261. “top Staffer”. He said “Top Staffer” hehehe

  262. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    Do they make Neuticals which flash in the dark?

    That would be a conversation starter.

  263. k to the g says:

    TEE

  264. flombaye says:

    blue loon…
    i sit here typing alone…
    without a donut or scone…
    but it’s okay; i’m big-boned.

  265. shāf says:

    #282 Is he riding high on, er in, the polls?

  266. k to the g says:

    Mitch lost his lip kissing bush

  267. shāf says:

    He’s a bitter old man!

  268. k to the g says:

    content-free post

  269. MidwestRuth says:

    hmmm…I’m betting my employer has insurance on me too…I feel so USED

  270. What! Iran negotiated? I thought they were irrational actors and endtimers!

  271. NOT GOT MUCH TO SAY, BUT AT LEST IT’S IN ALL CAPS!

  272. flombaye says:

    jim says “free king bastards” ?
    better a free king bastard than an endentured moldavian real estate dentist.

  273. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    Can I take a life insurance policies on Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Michael Savage?

    The odds seem pretty good that one of those three are going to have aneurysms.

  274. shāf says:

    Pork tartar, even deadlier (from the trichinosis).

  275. flombaye says:

    blew duck ?
    do they serve blew none ?

  276. IS Mr. Potter related to Col. Potter?

    SPAAAARRRRTTTTAAAAAHHH!!!!

  277. shāf says:

    It’s Sparta Time!

  278. flombaye says:

    aneurisms i think, are not a good thing.

  279. Amy Outside of DC says:

    So much for that whole Family Values thing. Celebrating their wedding anniversary with your wife (not your mistress)? Ridiculous!

  280. I see Bush as more of an Underooos guy.

    Oh, and the ADL does not own the word “holocaust” (little H). Screw them and their fake indigination. These are the scumbags that lobbied Congress not to recognize the Armenian genocide.

  281. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Sparticles?

  282. flombaye says:

    i reign with ferocity and demand one of those fuzzy pink snowball snack cake thingies.

  283. k to the g says:

    Well-earned Sparta Flombaye!

  284. shāf says:

    flombaye with the Sparta! *bows*

    Have a great day, everyone!

  285. A successful day on the SMS liveblog!

    Good blathering, folks!

    Buh Bye, Bloggoes! :mrgreen:

  286. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Wow, under-the-wire Sparta!

    #268: To be honest, I find 48Hours a bit nauseating to begin with.

    Bye all, have a day.

  287. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    Menudo sushi has to rate up there for risky food.

    Bye y’all.

  288. k to the g says:

    Bye everybody! Liveblog is the best way to start the day here on the loony left coast.

  289. k to the g says:

    well, one of the best ways

  290. flombaye congrats on the sparta. I yield to thee and reveal My Inner Self ™. Sorry I had to miss it, the maid had some trouble getting her box open.. Long story, I missed your sparta.

    Hasta manana, bananas! Don’t be a jabbernow. Don’t be a pendejo!

    Don’t you ever change a thing, you magnificent sons of guns.