Stephanie Miller

LiveBlog for Thursday, October 1, 2009

schakowskyRep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) calls in at 6:30am Pacific to talk about health care reform and bringing the Olympics to Chicago.

Moore• Filmmaker Michael Moore calls in at 7:30am Pacific to talk about his new film, “Capitalism: A Love Story.”

Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ) calls in at 6:30am Pacific to talk about health care reform and other news of the day.

The U.S. and five other world powers began high-stakes talks today with Iran to demand a freeze of its nuclear activities, with a senior U.S. official saying Washington is open to rare one-on-one talks with Iranian diplomats.

• A White House-backed overhaul of the nation’s health care system survived a long day of GOP challenges over abortion, illegal immigration, and other issues yesterday, and the bill’s architect claimed enough votes for passage by the Senate Finance Committee, possibly by the end of the week.

• Samoans dug through the wreckage of homes and told of the terror of being trapped underwater or flung inland by the tsunami that ravaged towns and killed at least 149 people in the South Pacific. Officials expect the death toll to rise as more areas are searched.

First lady Michelle Obama arrived in Copenhagen yesterday to lend her support to Chicago’s effort to win the 2016 Summer Olympics. President Obama arrives in Denmark tomorrow.

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388 Responses to “LiveBlog for Thursday, October 1, 2009”

  1. shāf says:

    Good Morning and Happy October, fellow Steph-addicts. I hope everyone is doing great! I’m back after a three-day absence of shooting scenes for Disney’s ‘Secretariat’ in Kentucky. Yesterday, I was background talent in a key scene with Diane Lane and John Malkovich. It was great being part of the process. I got home after mid-night, so I’m still a bit groggy.

  2. trojanrabbit says:

    Great news shaf.

    From “are we taking this green bit too far” department, via ABC (that’s Australian)

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/01/2702335.htm?section=justin

    Japan’s All Nippon Airways wants its passengers to use the restroom before boarding the aircraft to save weight.

    Geez, why not ask them to take a colon cleanser the night before. And what about the 10-25 pounds some say is trapped in the colon walls like spackle or paste.

  3. trojanrabbit says:

    1
    I’m trojanrabbit, and I’m a Stephaholic. *hic*

  4. trojanrabbit says:

    Geez, where is everybody?

  5. shāf says:

    Dunno, I left for a bit to finish unpacking from the trip.

  6. trojanrabbit says:

    No one knows what I’m supposed to be doing yet. I just love days like these.

  7. my pooer's dad says:

    2: Wow! If they can save that much from little, healthy, fish-eating Japanese, imagine how much could be saved in America with our red meat based diets.

  8. shāf says:

    #7 Yep. It brings a whole new meaning to the phrase, “Prepare for take off”!

  9. trojanrabbit says:

    7
    If they wanted to follow things to their logical conclusion, instead of All Nippon Airways it could be called All Naked Airways.

  10. shāf says:

    Just saw this on Jalopnik and HuffPo… GM to kill Saturn division after failed talks with Roger Penske to buy brand:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20091001/us-gm-saturn/

  11. my pooer's dad says:

    9: I wonder how long it will take for the airlines to figure out how to charge a fee for this?

  12. my pooer's dad says:

    9: All naked screaming baby airlines – now that’s scary.

  13. I’m suffering from a flare-up of my chronic earworm infestation today.

    And earworms are meant to be shared: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN-4lX0QyZc

    Because I’m mean that way.

  14. #2, and if it is like a spackle or paste, why not send them to a construction site before the airport?

  15. Holan Amigans! Como estan ustedes?

    Happy Thursday.

    Say, how about that – the TRUTH told, Republican Health Plan revealed: Don’t Get Sick! and if you do get sick, Die Quickly!
    I loved it, the lousy Repubs called out on their actual positions on health care.

    The Repub outrage was delicious.

  16. my pooer's dad says:

    10: That’s very disappointing. My main problem with the Obama recovery plan is it appears very light on job creation. I wish we had some programs like the WPA and CCC to help bridge the gap ala FDR.

  17. my pooer's dad says:

    13: I wonder if Steph has “carasma”?

  18. WPA and CCC is what we need, not only for job creation but for MAINTENANCE of our crumbling infrastructure..

  19. #19, that is, #17, not #18

  20. shaf – too bad, Saturn is one of the better American cars. They ought to kill Cadillac, at least the Escalade line.

  21. Another doggie for Stephie!

  22. shāf says:

    Oh, I didn’t know the story on Oliver. That would be hard to do (let go of an adopted pet).

  23. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    Mornin’ Blog.

  24. trojanrabbit says:

    Oooooo
    Damn glad I decided to make my birthday “present” to Steph a belated one…..

  25. arrestroveplease says:

    STOP IT! NO MAKING ME CRY IN THE A.M. HAVE TO GET THROUGH DAY…STOP WITH DOG STORIES! I CAN’T TAKE IT.

  26. trojanrabbit says:

    suggested mix-up, Shane-O? (i think this is the way it goes)

    Larry: What do we do with insert Stephanie Miller.
    Moe: Throw her to the dogs.
    Curly: Arf! Arf! Woof!

  27. my pooer's dad says:

    Headline of the future: Popular radio show host crushed to death under her 20 dogs

  28. shāf says:

    Another Voice Deity tour de force. Well done, Jim!

  29. People need to read up on what Die Stern found out during the course of the investigation. The DA dropped five of the six charges for a reason, it seems.

  30. Sister! Daughter! Sister! Daughter!

    awesome voice diety Jim Ward..

  31. flombaye says:

    9: “If they wanted to follow things to their logical conclusion, instead of All Nippon Airways it could be called All Naked Airways.”

    nay, the logical conclusion would be to follow dudley moore’s SONY commercial: “americans are just too damned tall” – so there would be a reverse bemusement park style screening. it really wouldnt be logical to go for nudity when there’s a nip in the air.

  32. flombaye says:

    12: “All naked screaming baby airlines – now that’s scary.”

    the gerbers spackle-n-pasty bits flavor is …. inimitable.

  33. flombaye says:

    13: thank goodness. i checked out what god had roth. not that bad. i was afraid you were going to present the louis armstrong cover of “loving you”, or the cartman a capella cover of “flight of the bumblebee”.

  34. flombaye says:

    14: “and if it is like a spackle or paste, why not send them to a construction site before the airport?”

    that’s one of the most vile images one can get from the phrase, “moon river”, the worst being andy williams.

    sing it with me:
    “brain freeeeee…..”

  35. JanIncarnate says:

    Thank Cheezuz these guys think like I do.

  36. JanIncarnate says:

    Sex with a 13 year old is WRONG, ILLEGAL, and DISGUSTING. Thank you, Steph, Chris, and Jim for voicing that.

  37. JanIncarnate says:

    Wait…Steph had to let go of Oliver?? Oh no!

  38. Good thankness! :P

    Hiya, Bloggoes! How are we all doing on this, the morning of the first day of the rest of my life?

  39. flombaye says:

    37: speaking of the stooges. on monday, jack lalanne went onto the neil cavuto show. can you say “bookends” ?
    actual wordage:
    NC: how do feel about richard simmons ?
    JLL: i’ve never slept with him.
    NC: would you ever wear the short shorts like that ?
    JLL: oh, no. never. i havr too much to show.

    have stephy and jack always been a bit odd, or is it a birthday 95 thing ?

  40. Polanski over 70 now, right? He’d be a sweet little white chocolate morsel in prison, convicts despise and go after child molesters.

  41. “I keep tryin’ ta think, but nothin’ happens” -Curly Howard

  42. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    Hey ProducerChris, I have a show idea. You should get Arkansas Sen. Bob Johnson on the show and ask him if he is going to challenge Senator Blanche Lincoln who just voted against the public option. I’d like to know if Johnson would support the public option.

  43. flombaye says:

    the glittery oil sticks to richard simmons like spackle or paste, but he may voluneer to go nude and start slapping people on screaming baby airlines, while jack lalanne runs around underneath carrying the plane.

  44. That Armani outfit is suppressive and glib! Change to the Versaci!

  45. Suri Cruise, with a fringe on top..

  46. flombaye says:

    47: look in the penalty box. i saw him go kick a jew.
    me may be in there consulting an expert texpert about pilchard recipes.

  47. JanIncarnate says:

    Good morning, Madduane! What did you get for your birthday?

  48. flombaye says:

    49: suri cruise, roman around town… but not into the hot tub for a couple of years.

  49. nice morning
    I finally snapped out of it
    very weird dreams, I remember I got drunk at work [a job I had years
    ago] and the next day I had been found naked in a stairwell…

    like I say weird dreams

    Stephie, you ARE a prize! 4th runner up in Miss Junior Miss!

  50. JanIncarnate says:

    Stephanie wins the “LIVE BLOGGERS FAVORITE RADIO SKANK” award. There.

  51. I’m opposed to be on a diet. Eggs is a vegetable, isn’t they?

  52. The “bloodless coup” proposed sounds exactly like what they tried with FDR.

  53. flombaye says:

    turns out there was widespread military intervention after hurricane katrina. – not a selling point that the cheney administration bragged about a lot… but there was a massive defection from standing around, to going in and saving lives. wow. scary.

  54. 52 — Hiya, Jan! :mrgreen:

    Hiya, George! :mrgreen:

    THe bidet was ongerfu’ (sorry, eating eggs…) I got lotsa love and a iPod touch. Thank you all for the love, it’s great! :D

  55. JanIncarnate says:

    #57 Good luck with dieting. I solved my fat problem by developing severe arthritis in my legs, suffering horrible chronic pain for months, and losing my appetite. I don’t recommend that diet.

  56. 49 the Suri Cruise money squandering was disgusting.
    People are desperate out here. I’m so sick of being
    broke.

  57. flombaye says:

    57: jack lalanne was just on the neil cavuto show this monday. jack spelled out the benefits of hard boiled eggs as one of the very best foods (the whites only). – - – looks like you’ll be jello-wrestling with neil cavuto over the yolks.

  58. According to early projections, sparta may not appear today, and I will have wasted revealing My Inner Self ™.

    Don’t let that happen, BloggenMooksters..

  59. JanIncarnate says:

    #62 I’m soooo with you, brother Mark.

  60. shāf says:

    BTW, I wasn’t here to wish Stephanie a Happy Birthday on Tues. So, HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY, MAMA! Love ‘ya!

  61. 64 — Oooh, that’s awesome! I have a little point and shoot Olympus that takes fuzzy pictures, and that suits my aesthetic sensibility just fine. My girlfriend has, I think, a D40(?) and she takes wonderful pictures.

    Enjoy the new box! (hey, are you on the flickr?)

  62. flombaye says:

    61: very sorry you got compromised mobility jan, and very sorry you’ve experienced chronic pain. – sadly (and fortuitously), there’s a percentage of the populace out there simply fixated on the core of your statement, and ready to spend bigly on whatever it is that you’ve discovered ….. ["i solved my fat problem...."]

  63. JanIncarnate says:

    #67 George, if I had that kind of money, I wouldn’t squander it buying f**king designer clothes for myself or my kid. I’d be paying off peoples’ mortgages and hospital bills and other debts and I’d be helping people without jobs and endowing food pantries and doing everything I can to make life better for others.

  64. JanIncarnate says:

    Thanks, Flom. Helluva way to lose weight, but glad something good came out of it.

  65. I have no problem bailing out important industries that are on the ropes, if we get equity.

    But the mandate without public option “bailout” is of a ridiculously (and criminally) profitable industry to start with. Eff them.

  66. 71 — Tom is compassionate! He’s helping people get rid of their body thetans. :roll:

  67. 66, 67 Spending $4000 for a purse for a toddler?
    designer clothes for a toddler? designer clothes period…
    it’s sick
    If I ever have a decent job and money again I won’t be
    spending it on garbage like that
    my needs are simple. Right now $4.17 for a pint of Canada House
    is looking like a good investment

  68. flombaye says:

    62: “I’m so sick of being broke.”
    a sharp handsome lad like you ? reduced to hanging out here where evil people throw earworms at us ? – why, i would have guessed you were just a gigolo.

  69. Apparently, we HAVE to get something out of Finance soon if we’re going to get it through reconciliation before a date cutoff for the fiscal year.

  70. 71 YES Jan!
    The Suri Cruise crap shows what kind of bizarre horrible world
    these creeps live in… they can go to hell

  71. my pooer's dad says:

    71: Wouldn’t it be nice if the majority of the wealthy thought that way?

  72. flombaye says:

    71: that money didnt just disappear. somebody else just has that option now.

  73. I would not trade places with Tom Cruise for anything.

  74. 76 even the gigolo business is down these days…

  75. #71, I’d be building factories and giving people jobs, and plow the (modest) profits into building more factories to give people more jobs.

  76. flombaye says:

    81: yo ! yo ! homey ! lookie here …. now this here is what we call a “klondike bar”.

  77. JanIncarnate says:

    Mark, if I weren’t involved with someone I’d pay you to be my gigolo. :)

  78. flombaye says:

    82: when did the gigolos go down ?
    why didnt randi say anything ?

  79. Scott says:

    Someone needs to let Steph know that Alan Grayson is already married to Lolita (yeah, I know) and they have five kids.

    And they’re rumored to own substantial shares in Screaming Baby Airlines.

    :D

  80. 79 — a week or so ago there was a story about the big meet up of the rich bacon eating pigs in Monaco. I was thinking what a wonderful world a dirty bomb could create. Then I got physically ill at how awful a thought that was.

    But How can people flaunt their riches while others are starving? All time favorite example of this — St. Peter’s Basilica being built under the direction of Michaelangelo while people were starving in the streets right outside.

    And I find Michaelangelo’s art extremely spiritual. WTF???

  81. my pooer's dad says:

    67: Me too. Not enough sub gigs to keep me even.

  82. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    Last night I send $150 to Congressman Grayson’s campaign. You guys should send money too.

    https://www.graysonforcongress.com/contribute.asp

    We need to support those Dems who show a damn spine for once.

  83. littul email exchange:
    Professor Astore, I really enjoyed your piece
    “What Ever Happened To Gary Cooper”.
    [ http://original.antiwar.com/engelhardt/2009/09/03/whatever-happened-to-gary-cooper/ ]

    Militarism is a cancer in this county. I served, my
    friends serve now. I honor what they do. The best way
    to support them is to bring them home. This Empire is
    wrong on so many levels. Thank you for articulating
    what I and many others feel.
    Militarism is one of the four Sorrows of Empire
    as delineated by Chalmers Johnson. The other three are:
    - Lies, endless Government lies and the erosion of
    public trust in government
    - Loss of the Rule of Law
    - Bankruptcy, moral, spiritual, economic as our blood
    and treasure are poured out

    William Astore to me
    Thanks, Mark. I agree.
    Bill Astore

  84. TR says:

    You could do things like dropping over $600 on a “where the wild things are” designer ensemble/halloween costume instead of pulling it together for $20 dollars at ragstock.

    http://www.phillyburbs.com/information/guide_post/article/312/2009/september/30/opening-ceremony-launches-wild-things-collection.html

  85. flombaye says:

    85: that reminds me, MDB’s post 185 yesterday was truly timeless literature. …… hmmm…….. check it out, homey …. right there on the bed…. klondike bar, fresh out of the freezer.

  86. my pooer's dad says:

    66 not 67.

  87. 85 thanks Jan! you’re awesome
    I’d give you a Discount!

  88. flombaye says:

    89: “Not enough sub gigs to keep me even.”

    wowage. it’s a ruff economy when MPD has to resort to substitute gigolos.

  89. JanIncarnate says:

    :lol:

  90. my pooer's dad says:

    82: Try the cougar bars.

  91. Just got the Max Blumenthal “Republican Gomorrah” book last night and perused it.

    Interesting information, the Conspicuous Christian aspect of the Republican Party was virtually founded on racism. And down the road, Reverend Falwell was busily christening all white universities from his start. Remember, Jerry Falwell was the prime mover in the Southern Baptists and their Moron Majority ™.

    Anyway, it looks like it will be a nice read. The other book I ordered from Amazon was Charles P. Pierce’s “Idiot America: How Stupidity Became a Virtue in the Land of the Free” – have not received it yet.

  92. my pooer's dad says:

    96: Where do I sign up for that? Do I need special certification?

  93. flombaye says:

    92: ah, yes. fond memories…. of course, janice, and her brother scott very both very late, so richie havens had to riverdance for the first 45 minutes.

  94. 93 thanx flombe ditint even know you noticed

  95. I’ve been wondering… Considering it’s early in the morning in LA, is it orange sunshine™?

  96. I’ve enver been to Chicago, but lately I’ve been wanting to go.

  97. 104 — “enver” could either be “never” or Denver”

  98. Scott says:

    103, no more of your acidic comments! LOL

  99. 88 a dirty bomb that only kills the rich?
    The Pope never seemed to mind being rich amidst
    a sea of poor people
    St Francis of Assisi walked a fine line trying to
    point out the hypocrisy while not getting roasted

  100. JanIncarnate says:

    I’m biased. I’m a Chicago fan, so my opinion is completely subjective.

  101. Every time I’ve been in Chicago, the weather has been miserable, cold and windy. It’s a rough place in parts, but a magnificent city.

  102. flombaye says:

    103: the old saying tells us, when life gives you scurvy, make lemonade, so i’m “walkenonsunshine” on youtube, but no posts are up yet. – in the crueltime, i have some still shots ready on a hot air balloon photo contest on reno.com.

  103. JanIncarnate says:

    I have little hope. I wanted single-payer health care, and that ain’t happening.

  104. flombaye says:

    107: thank goodness francis was clever enuff to drop all that birdseed along the fine line so he could find his way back to his particular campsite in the ocean of snow.

  105. 99 give us a review on “Idiot America” when you finish it Ivan

  106. I believe I will donate $50 to Grayson’s campaign myself. Spined Democrats need to be propagated.

  107. flombaye says:

    i just realized that maybe francis was TRYING to get roasted.

  108. 111 — It still could. Possibly. Maybe. The finance committee screwed the pooch, but there’s still the house bill, which will likely include a public option, and then it could be attached in an amendment to H. R. 3200

  109. flombaye says:

    115: “any of you squirrells touch my nuts, i’ll kill you !”

  110. The ‘Obama Problem’… solved by an outright Fascist coup

  111. JanIncarnate says:

    #117 I dunno, brother. I just don’t know…

  112. 118 “Quick Nibbles, chew through my ball-sack!”

  113. shāf says:

    The Boehner needs a big steaming cup of STFU.

  114. flombaye says:

    119: led by mitch mcconnell, saint fascist of the sissies.
    “any of you darkies touch my fried chicken, i’ll rebuff you severely !”

  115. David in Maine says:

    Isn’t Chicago the Miami of Canada?

  116. Top US Commander in Afghani, McChrysalis, is trying to prolong
    this debacle, up the number of troops… we need out. Lose now
    or lose later, after squandering more blood and treasure

  117. Mikey Steal, Asshat.
    uh, that’s Mongolian Asshat to you!

  118. my pooer's dad says:

    I doubt the story. Although the military leans right, it’s not monolithic either. There would be plenty of current and former military personnel to oppose such action. Also, many military people, despite their political proclivities, would honor their oath.

  119. JanIncarnate says:

    All I know is that Wrigley Field is the Shrine. Every year, I go through this ritual with my fellow sufferers: We look at each other at the end of baseball season and say: “GO BEARS!” At the end of football season, we look at each other and say: “GO CUBS!”

    It’s a sad life, really…

  120. 127

    And he wore a hat
    and he had a job
    and he led the GOP
    so that no one knew (woooo!)

    He was a Mongolian Asshat
    Mongolian Asshat!
    Happier than you and me

  121. flombaye says:

    121: saint francis in a wheelchair would have been perfect for “dodgeball” – - – “okay, scooter, fluffy, perkles, time for you little scitterbrains to put your teeth where my nuts are. and dont worry. if you can dodge an unexpected wrench, you can dodge the spanish inquisition !”

  122. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Good morning blogginlovers! Late as usual, takes forever to re-boot this old Mac, grrr.

    #1: Wow, shāf. I used to do background here in LA but hardly ever got a three day gig. Did you upstage the Malkovich with a John Cleese-style silly walk?

  123. Doug says:

    John L. Perry and his supporters should review and take to heart US Code Title 118, Chapter 115.

  124. Did you upstage the Malkovich with a John Cleese-style silly walk?

    Something tells me that there are few more dangerous actions one could take.

  125. my pooer's dad says:

    129: At least you have the Black Hawks.

  126. flombaye says:

    125: they could have sent mcbutterfly, but they love being re-tott the same lessons. as the mighty quayle said: afchanistan wouldnt be at all like vietnam. afghanistan is mostly desert and vietnam is mostly jungle.

  127. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #105: or Enver Hoxha.

  128. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    We’re losing it? Depends what the meaning of “it” is.

  129. flombaye says:

    notorious V.I.C. is correct. limbics dont follow arithmetic.

  130. The rethugs are morally deformed, malformed. Twisted in a
    grotesque fashion and blind to their disfigurement.
    Possessed of a stunted, vestigial conscience, a profound
    blindness to their own repulsive, misbeggoten crooked-back
    selves… textbook definitions of sociopaths, unable to
    put themselves in any one else’s shoes, incapable of
    compassion or empathy…

  131. shāf says:

    #132 Oh no, I would never upstage John M. We did exchange a friendly nod, however.

  132. flombaye says:

    132: “why did you step on that duck, a$$hole ?”

  133. JanIncarnate says:

    #140 But, other than that…they’re alright. :lol:

  134. 129 it’s OK Jan. I know. We got the Lions. I mean Lie-Downs.
    They finally won a game, you’d a tott we won the superbowl.
    at least we got the Wings. Yer Hawks did well last year til we
    beat them, but a good series
    I think that Dr did see Steph’s hoo hoo

  135. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #134: Just don’t do it between the word “action” and the word “cut”.

  136. flombaye says:

    140: okay, yes. they’re swastika shaped. there’s a certain poetry to people who protest too much.

  137. Mongolian Asshat!

    to the tune of “Detachable Penis”

  138. my pooer's dad says:

    Yes, they’re saying if Chicago gets the Olympics, high-speed rail might be built between Chicago and St. Louis, so some venues can be held in St. Louis.

  139. 144 — Luckily, I’m in Boston. There are absolutely no sports teams here whatsoever. Yay!

    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

  140. 137 wow, with the Enver Hoxa ref! ob-scure
    Albania. all of europe split between NATO and Soviet Union,
    Albania goes with… Mao’s China! good thinking, see how that
    works for ya

  141. 141 don’t stare at the “Z” on his face…

  142. flombaye says:

    150: that is fortune indeed. here in reno the local radio markets will have thom hartmann or rich greene with unusually compelling guests…. midsentence they will interrupt to bring you not just reno baseball, but “exciting” reno baseball. the season seems to last about a year.

  143. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #141: I exchanged mistrustful glances with Hugh Laurie once.

  144. JanIncarnate says:

    If I were religious, I’d build a church around Rep. Grayson.

    The Church of the Steel Spine

  145. 143 lmao

    yeah, other than that they are just A-OK!

    “other than that Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?”

  146. flombaye says:

    obama may replace the czars with “kaiser soze”s, just to mess with the jellybeaners.

  147. JanIncarnate says:

    #154 I would love to exchange sneers with him.

  148. flombaye says:

    154: the one you gave him is really mean.

  149. 153 — That’s so sad! You should come to Boston, where your commute will never, ever be triply lengthened by a sporting event, ever!

  150. rhowland says:

    Steph & the Mooks have been pointing out for months that the Republicans just want you to die . Grayson stole their bit. Which is a good thing!

  151. JanIncarnate says:

    DEAR REPUBLICANS: PLEASE GO F**K YOURSELVES. THANK YOU, AND HAVE A NICE DAY. SINCERELY, JAN

  152. flombaye says:

    156: actually, they’re AK-47, but you were close.

  153. k to the g says:

    Morning all! Here’s Grayson’s website:
    http://grayson.house.gov/

  154. my pooer's dad says:

    The Republicans never cease to amaze me with their hypocrisy.

  155. 147 a certain symmetry to their twisted selves

    from out of nowhere apropos to nothing just cause I can:
    “Nymphomaniacs don’t make the best wives.
    But they make great neighbors”

  156. flombaye says:

    160: it doesnt lengthen the commute; the radio has an “off” button.

  157. trojanrabbit says:

    160
    You are kidding, right?

  158. 157 the Kaiser Soses! Oh God they’re my favorite band!
    Did you ever met Davey Jones? or Bobby Sherman?

    No.. no, I ..

    I mean… David Cassady, he’s so…

    Jimmy Greenspoon, at one time…

  159. shāf says:

    I agree with Michael Moore. I have a Canadian friend who is angry (yes, Canadians really DO get angry at times) about the lies be spread by the Right about their health care system.

  160. trojanrabbit says:

    160

    You’ve never been stuck on I-95 on a Monday Night when the Pats are playing, I see.

  161. flombaye says:

    reminds me of the time the vietcong made john mccain into one of the buster keaton five. amazingly, he was only beginning to get amusing.

  162. JanIncarnate says:

    I’m supporting anyone Michael Moore supports. I don’t have much money, but I’ll send each of them a little.

  163. 168 — Paul! Hiya! :lol: I was hoping you’d chime in. I ride the T to Fenway about once a week. Sometimes it’s really just fine.

  164. 160 I love Boston
    ah to be young and in love in Boston, to drive fast down
    empty streets with nothing on your mind except not getting caught…

  165. flombaye says:

    176: if you can dodge a baked bean, you can dodge radar.

  166. JanIncarnate says:

    I love irony. It’s so good when you saute it with a little butter and olive oil and serve it over a bed of pilaf.

  167. trojanrabbit says:

    175
    Hiya madduane. Work’s getting in the way. Just semi-browsing.

    I’ve had a few 3 hour Monday Night commutes. Of course they don’t hold a candle to the 4 to 5 hour Winter Storm commutes.

  168. The traditional “read from cook/phonebooks” filibuster doesn’t exist. Hasn’t existed for more than 30 years. It’s be nice if it DID exist.

    Getting rid of it was the deal that allowed the cloture threshold to drop from 67 to 60. In the end, it was a bad deal, since a 67 “take the floor until you pass out” filibuster is actually easier to break than a “60 votes to get a bill to the floor” vote.

  169. JanIncarnate says:

    I’d love it if they decided to filibuster. I’d sit in the gallery and scream: “YOU LIE!” every five minutes. Muthaf**kas.

  170. To be young and in love, most anywhere!

    It even works in Waco.

  171. 181 — yeah, but at least you don’t have to stand up anymore.

  172. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    Here’s Grayson’s campaign site where you can give him money. Unfortunately this site has been subsumed on Google by all the news about him.

    http://www.graysonforcongress.com/default.asp

  173. trojanrabbit says:

    I remember trying to drive on I-95 the first time the Grateful Dead was to play at Schaefer Stadium (yeah, I’m old – the one beer to have when you’re having more than one – you’d need a case if you were watching the Pats of the day). I got to my exit just before a massive traffic jam. People were getting out of their cars and dancing in the middle of the interstate.

  174. JanIncarnate says:

    Sorry I have to cut out early. Chores and stuff. Love ya…mean it!

  175. Let the damned Repubs filibuster! For about 40 days and nights. I’d love to see it, and I think the loyal ignoramuses supporting them might finally get sick of it. And they would LOSE after all.

  176. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #151: Enver Hoxha’s not quite so obscure anymore since they used one of his speeches in the movie “Inside Man”. But I do remember him from back in the day, when I lived in England, Radio Albania had a powerful AM signal all over Europe and you could hear what sounded like an English housewife reading pages and pages of hilarious Stalinist propaganda in a deadpan monotone…

  177. flombaye says:

    177: that would imply that boston does have sports teams. i thott that at least it used to, because i’ve heard the boston celts mentioned a lot on the news, but at least boston has that great bean bake-off.

  178. trojanrabbit says:

    190
    Boston does have a Beanpot tournament though. College Hockey.

  179. Oh Great my favorite NOT! Steve Miller featuring the lamest
    rhyme ev-er: “Texas” with “Facts Is”

  180. Poor Producer Chris: ‘brain-related events’ prolly brought on
    by having to clean up after Momma’s antics

  181. flombaye says:

    186: “People were getting out of their cars and dancing in the middle of the interstate.” – oh, i’ve been doing it wrong. sometimes i just do that. i didnt know it was supposed to be a grateful dead thing.

  182. shāf says:

    Geeze, Steph, give ProducerChris a break. He’s in the tower, spinning the straw into gold for you already.

  183. trojanrabbit says:

    Bye, Jan. Have a great day.

  184. 192 — but it is a funky little rock n roll dance number. The cheezyness just makes it funner.

    That’s right. I said funner!

  185. 189 wow sorry I missed that. Mebbe Stephy could do a thing like that…

  186. #192, yeah, seriously. The song starts to tell a story, gets bored with the story, and then ends.

  187. Chris, can we see your.. gift certificate?

  188. k to the g says:

    wrong, Steph. TV broadcasts righwing activists PERIOD.

  189. shāf says:

    #187 Bye, Jan. Have a great one!

  190. #202, why tell us about the sheriff if he doesn’t figure into the story later? I mean, doesn’t that violate the Chekhov’s Gun law?

  191. 183 Waco… “If I owned Hell and Texas I’d live in Hell and
    rent out Texas” — Wm Tecumseh Sherman… “If I was pimping
    Stephanie Miller and Satan I’d pimp out Stephie and
    co-habitate with Ol’ Scratch” — me

    I like John Waters idea: Irony is dead. Think about it, it’s tough.
    Wicked tough

  192. k to the g says:

    “It’s Money That Matters” by Randy Newman also too in addition

  193. flombaye says:

    202: good observation. the singer actually manages to bore the song itself. an amazing feat really. but at least not as dire as “starry starry night”, which moved the target audience to cut off his ear just to avoid don mcclean’s sentiments. – - – “oh, crap, i threw away the knife, and i still have another ear !”

  194. flombaye says:

    206: alas, i know not the ways of star trek.
    alex, i’ll take boston sports teams for 500.

  195. And half of those threats on Bush were made by Laura.

  196. 206, 202, 192 it is kinda funny now that you mention it.

    typical pop– it don’t hafta make sense. Kinda like Momma

  197. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #197, #198: Synchronised posting?

  198. k to the g says:

    OMG Freddy is so cute! A little Mini-Max. Congrats Steph!

  199. 206 — There’s only so much storytelling you can do in a 3 minute pop song! I mean, c’mon, Tam Lyn is never going to be a hit…

    TTMAR is a complete story — it’s a hacky, poorly told story, but it does have a beginning, middle, and end.

  200. 209 Starry Starry Night… love/hate thing.
    so
    damn
    maudlin

    but still somehow sublime, when ya got yer eye’s crossed

  201. Jim Weeks says:

    186: Summer Tour, 1985. The office required that we all get the Elvis stamp, place it on the envelope sideways, and we were required to use a public, free standing mail box, and do a dance before you drop in the order to San Rafael…If you did not do these things, your ticket order was placed in the “we’ll get to it after some bong hits” stack. It was really funny, a bunch of people standing around a mail box and breaking out in dance… I followed the rules and got 11 shows, all in the first 4 rows.

  202. flombaye says:

    206: and what was red up to in “the night the lights went out in georgia” ? – where was he exactly. – and i’ve always wondered about this too: what happened ? is it physically possible to follow the story in that song ?

  203. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    Is anyone else bugged by doctors who claim they aren’t paid enough?

    (I’m thinking of the doctor from upstate New York)

    Have you EVER met a doctor living in one-bedroom apartment forced to take the bus to work?

    I HAVE had to suffer listening to a doctor friend of mine complaining about his low pay — sitting in his paid-for six bedroom house! (New car in the garage. Cabin up in mountains. Time-share in Maui, etc.)

  204. 214 “Freddy! Chris, cleanup on aisle… ah just pick up the whole
    yard.”

    Chris: “this doesn’t look like dog-poop, Steph”

  205. flombaye says:

    215: not a valid excuse. billy joel covered world history that time he set bart simpson on fire.
    “no, he didnt like it, and he tried to fight it…”

  206. 218 — “Superior they said
    “Never gives up her dead
    “When the winds of November come early”

  207. 219 ah Ron yer just being bitter… that Dr

    I can’t got through with it, it’s just sick

  208. flombaye says:

    216: dont forget to dot your tease.
    hmmm…. i wonder what david lee roth would do for a klondike bar.

  209. 218 izzat not the same as “The Night Chicago Died”

  210. 221 — THat Billy Joel song you mention? That’s one that chaps my ass. Listen to the vastly superior R. E. M. ORIGINAL instead.

  211. flombaye says:

    226: i dont have time for R.I.M., but thanks for playing.

  212. k to the g says:

    220. Uh-oh. Jesus! Donde esta Jesus?

  213. 227 — Neil Young or Neil Sedaka? That’s the issue at hand.

  214. #215, do you mean Tam O’ Shanter?

    Tam Lin is a reel that runs about 35 seconds once through.

    And if he’s so pressed for time in the pop song, why mention the irrelevant sheriff at all?

    /I get to tease – he got kicked out of my snooty private high school, but not after naming his first band after the term for its students

  215. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    Drunken Mark,

    I actually don’t begrudge the pay of doctors — especially GPs.

    I have another Dr. friend of mine — a GP working for Kaiser — and she was not ultra-rich. (Just a four-bedroom house and a medium-sized condo in the mountains.)

    But, she never complained to me about money. That’s fine.

    But these doctors who complain they aren’t paid enough … I just loath it. They are so out-of-touch. They probably issue single bills totally some of their patient’s whole monthly wage.

  216. flombaye says:

    229: depends if you want to polka like a cantor, or dirge-along with doc severinson.

  217. 226 226 221
    History… makes… my… brain… hurt — Johnny Stewart

    Momma… don’t go to her house
    She’s gotta do the Maison Derriere thing, that’ll rope em in

  218. Jim Weeks says:

    Hey Republicans…you are either with us or you are with the terrorists…don’t you remember?

  219. 231 No, I’m with you. Drs work hard, help people

    It’s the whiney I’m not rich enough crap that is kinda disturbing
    but that’s not limited to drs, plenty dumb yuppies out there

    just like I was once. wouldn’t trade places with That Guy

  220. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    The kids don’t knock at Steph’s door? I thought her milkshake brought all the boys to the yard. She could try making a gingerbread house.

  221. k to the g says:

    Steph, turn off the red light and take down the black-lace curtains and maybe the neighborhood moms will let their kids come over.

  222. #231, I’m happy with doctors living the lifestyle as upper class professionals. Reward for the years of study, and the lure to get people into it.

    I have a problem when they think they deserve to live like the rich.

  223. flombaye says:

    234: a kudos to their streamlining skills; they no longer make you choose.

  224. 230 — Tam Lin is a Child Ballad, many versions with 50 plus verses.

  225. flombaye says:

    looks like i picked the wrong week to stop hot-tubbing with 13-year-olds.

  226. k to the g says:

    guns, bumperstickers…they’re all the same

  227. calikimk says:

    He said knuckle dragging neanderthal on the Rachel Maddow Show

  228. flombaye says:

    some people may still not know about obama’s complexion. – as recently as march of 2009, hannity’s electioneering meme was “we dont know anything about obama; he’s a complete secret mystery”.

  229. Stephanie puts the Spring in Springfield

  230. k to the g says:

    Matalin looks like her face was put on wet and ran down before it hardened.

  231. shāf says:

    To borrow a Rodney Dangerfield line:

    Mary Matalin… The last time I saw a mouth like that, it had a hook in it. ;)

  232. my pooer's dad says:

    Do they remember when a man shot at the White House and a plane almost crashed into it during Clinton’s term?

  233. #230, I’m surprised I missed that (and I own the Child Ballads, though I haven’t had much chance to go through them). I’ve heard of it in many contexts, but always assumed it was that alternate name of The Glasgow Reel.

    Yes, no Child Ballad will ever be a pop hit. Though The Battle of Harlaw is a pub favorite.

  234. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    I’m out of here, got to get to work. See you all tomorrow.

  235. trojanrabbit says:

    247
    And she was really something before electricity…

  236. SICK SICK SICK
    Sara Palin gonna sell a lotta books

    it’s freaking disgusting

  237. shāf says:

    #251 Now, I know why tigers eat their young.

  238. I SO want to see Dreadful Sara crash and burn

  239. #252, only because of wingnut welfare.

  240. Jim Weeks says:

    Here in Florida, decades of tort reform has resulted in a $100,000 cap. Yet, during our special elections last month, all of the ads for Republicans were calling for more tort reform in our state. Like the tax protesters who will not be happy until corporations are liberated from all taxation, those who call for tort reform will not be satisfied until the corporations are completely liberated from responsibility for harming others. Corporations have more rights than we do, as individuals.

  241. k to the g says:

    247 :lol: :lol: :lol:

  242. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    Peter W and Mark,

    I had a dentist friend who complained all the time. One time he complained that he couldn’t take a vacation because he lost $125,000 a week in revenues! (he had a clinic, but still…)

  243. my pooer's dad says:

    252: All that says to me is there are a lot of dumb f#%ks out there.

  244. flombaye says:

    245: somebody asked youtube advice-filmist ninja (”ask-a-ninja”) “have you ever used rick-rolling as a weapon”. – the ninja professed a preference for “spring-rolling”, which means jumping out at somebody and throwing rick springfield at them. —- and just to make it extra weird, i hadnt thott about rick springfield for about fifty years, and then out of nowhere, stumbled upon this ninja answer, and the youtubed, beginning of the show, “mission magic”, and on retrocrush.com, there was a feature on the sexiest album covers. the host commented on rod stewart’s “blondes have more fun” (sic), that before we get too excited, we ott know that the sensuous babe in the picture is really rick springfield. – are there just too many springfields in the world now ?
    “we set bart on fire….”

  245. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Anyone else here really disturbed by all this talk about a coup? These are probably the same people who write alternative histories about the Third Reich or the Confederacy winning their wars. I like living in a country where “it can’t happen here”.

  246. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Jim Weeks says:
    >> Here in Florida, decades of tort reform has resulted in a $100,000 cap.

    According to my conservative friends, your healthcare costs in Florida should be cheap, thanks to tort reform.

    Did you guys see ANY reduction in premiums or bills?

  247. my pooer's dad says:

    254: She’s the next Ross Perot.

  248. flombaye says:

    247: okay, that’s enuff. you can give it back now.

  249. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #248 I remember! My college (5 blocks from the White House) newspaper had a little cartoon about the plane’s path – stopping at the freshman dorm and the underage bar, etc.
    Back then you could make jokes about crashing planes into buildings.

  250. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:
    >> Anyone else here really disturbed by all this talk about a coup?

    I sure am!

    In the darkest days of Bush, I heard some liberals say they where going to move to Canada.

    But, conservatives don’t have that option, since Canada is hell-on-earth according to them. So I guess violence is their only option.

  251. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #256 More likely the people don’t realize you already have tort reform. Since (in right wing world) legal claims are the only reason malpractice insurance is so expensive, if health care is expensive you just need tort reform to fix it.
    You got to forget reality and get into the right wing mentality, then it all makes sense.

  252. flombaye says:

    261: “Anyone else here really disturbed by all this talk about a coup?”

    that sort of stuff used to upset dan quayle because he’s afraid of pigeons.

  253. trojanrabbit says:

    Off for lunch
    Have a great day, all.

  254. my pooer's dad says:

    Could you imagine who Sarah might choose as a running mate? How crazy would that person have to be?

  255. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Mark drunken biker old paratrooper in Deetown says:
    >> I SO want to see Dreadful Sara crash and burn

    But conservative leaders are burn-proof.

    Palin could be video taped selling crack wrapped in kiddie porn, and Fox would call it a “liberal smear.”

  256. Amy Outside of DC says:

    …with all their hockey hullabaloo, and that bitch Ann Murray too, blame Canada….

  257. there can never be too many Springfields in this world

  258. flombaye says:

    270: clue: you aint seen n n n n nothing yet.

  259. Jim Weeks says:

    262: My premiums have gone up over 400% in the past 9 years. My wife and I own a small bakery – cake shop and we can’t afford it any more. Two months ago, when i was shopping for another plan, I found out I had two choices – Aetna or BCBS. The lowest cost was $21,000/year and that was before the $7,000 deductible. when we opened our cake shop in 1996, we had a HMO that was about $240.00/month. We had a $15.00 copay and that was all. It is just me and her on the policy.

  260. And once a low-regulation state becomes a magnet for insurance companies, they will buy the state legislature so that it never will be regulated there.

    Just like Delaware is with banks/credit card companies.

  261. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    I am under the impression that other countries DO benefit from our drug developments.

    I’ve never questioned that line. Is it true?

  262. Obamarules says:

    “But the problem with the “defensive medicine” theory is that states that have passed “tort reform” laws have no decreases in health care costs to show for it.

    Jim Landers writes for the Dallas Morning News that since Texas passed tough tort reform laws in 2003, the costs of medical malpractice premiums paid by doctors have fallen by more than 30 percent. This indicates there is a real reduction in malpractice suits. However, Landers writes,

    “But the cost of health care still is rising. Consumers are paying higher insurance premiums, which continue to escalate faster than earnings.”

    (http://www.maacenter.org/blog/tort-reform-show-us-results.html)

  263. Since when did “bought out by big business” become moderation or centrism?

  264. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #277 You run a bakery cake shop? Then you’re the reason healthcare is so expensive, your delicious treats make Floridians fat and therefore more likely to have heart disease, etc… :wink:

  265. spiffyhussein says:

    Hello all! I’ve been moving for the past 4 days and had no time to do Internet. Now I’m surrounded by boxes. Goal: give more stuff away or sell more stuff.

  266. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    I suppose it would be fine if the Pres went to Texas on a brush-clearing vacation?

  267. **strong urge to squeeze Hannity’s hairy little helmet until he pops like the human pus filled zit he is**

  268. flombaye says:

    beck did the same as hannity: whether intentional or not, a spotlight was honed in on diarrherun’s 8-year vacation.

  269. 272 Palin sells Meth wrapped in kiddie porn… to kiddies

    I gotta shut all this toxic garbage out,
    Just
    Can’t
    Take It
    any more… please Momma, no more Right Wing Tooles

  270. Joe Margolis says:

    Rep Grayson is my hero!!!

    Click this link to see Rep. Grayson further articulate his views in the situation room. Every was challenging him except James Carvelle.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/politics/2009/09/30/sot.grayson.tsr.cnn.cnn.html

  271. The Iranian nuclear crisis about a facility with no nuclear material in it and won’t go online for 18-24 months, and at which inspections are already being scheduled?

    “Crisis” has been defined downward.

  272. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Jim Weeks says:
    >> 262: My premiums have gone up over 400% in the past 9 years.

    Wow. That sucks! Holy smokes!

    As a consumer, could you tell at-all that tort-reform was implemented? Maybe your rates where flat on the year it was implemented or something?

  273. my pooer's dad says:

    268: Isn’t that “coupe”?

  274. sparta is in the air.. ;->

  275. k to the g says:

    I’m gonna buy Palin’s book as soon as it hits Goodwill Stores and use it for target practice with my jarts, then for a prop when I’m panhandling in rich neighborhoods.

  276. my pooer's dad says:

    273: And their beer sucks, too.

  277. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Mark drunken biker old paratrooper in Deetown says:
    >> 272 Palin sells Meth wrapped in kiddie porn… to kiddies

    Oh, excuse me… if it was Alaska, it was surely meth.

  278. Momma is a peignoir really appropriate for the studio?
    I do like the stockings though
    nice seam

  279. flombaye says:

    283: may i have one of the boxes of 8-tracks. your bobby shermans and paper lace items would perfectly balance my collection.

  280. spiffyhussein says:

    Sparta: a love story

  281. Hannity looks like the Green Guy Jumping on the Wing. Where’s Shatner when you need him?

  282. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    If the Pres flies SouthWest he’ll have Wifi … if he flies Air Force One, I know he’ll at least have a fax machine … I saw Harrison Ford using it.

  283. Amy Outside of DC says:

    Congrats on the moving Sparta, Spiffy.

  284. Jim Weeks says:

    262: There are lots of other things (scams) in our state that advertise and sell “health plans.” But they are not insurance, they are discount plans. The GOP in Florida says that because of these discount scams, we have over 1500 to choose from. Not so, there are two plans that are actual insurance from an actual insurance company.

    My parents, on Medicare, have mor choises for their supplemental, but us regular consumers have no choice. Right now there is an ad on TV selling a “dental plan” – once again, it is not insurance – just a discount program – it is not from an actual insurance company.

  285. Spiffy – sparta’ed! I yield to thee and I reveal My Inner Self ™.

    Good job.

  286. spiffyhussein says:

    Yay! I must take this as a good portend. It is October. Good god, how did it get to be October?

  287. 295 Molson Bradors!

    296 Washilla: County Seat of Methamphetamine County Alashka

  288. 301 — dunno about Shatner but Lithgow’s hangin’ out in Florida these days, which seems slightly perfect.

  289. spiffyhussein says:

    #305—you trademarked “my inner self”? Good job!

  290. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> PeterW the Robobagpiper says:
    >> “Crisis” has been defined downward.

    You got that right.

    It drives me crazy when the nation is put on “terror alert” when there is actually no specific threat.

  291. flombaye says:

    301: more often than not, off with the roaming gnome some place near heidelberg, enforcing the touch-my-monkey porn on demand guarantee.

  292. Congressman Frank Stallone! Sly’s bro

  293. spiffyhussein says:

    303—thank you Amy. I’m downsizing but it’s nice to live in an apartment nearby other people who also can’t afford the “finer” things in life, like houses. Now I am with my financial peers.

  294. flombaye says:

    312: pH balanced oceans ?

  295. my pooer's dad says:

    307: Candian Bacon – Beer Sucks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HGPh8Hjyg8

  296. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Jim Weeks says:
    >> 262: There are lots of other things (scams) in our state that advertise and sell “health plans

    I was aware of those… but it never occurred to me that these where counted by Republicans when they claimed there where thousands of insurance companies.

    I heard some industry-apologist on Hartmann’s show also counting the private corporate plans as “choice.”

  297. flombaye says:

    the biggest dead give-away that it’s a ruff economy is beelzevuv’s BYOD policy. that’s just harsh.

  298. The Dirty Show is in town here in Deetown this weekend

    and here I thott that was the Sensational Stephanie Miller Show

  299. Jim Weeks says:

    291: No, tort reform has done nothing to reduce costs. Period. It’s a libertarian smoke screen designed to gin up phony outrage so they can liberate corporate supremacists from responsibility.

    We have people selling “health plans” out of boiler rooms down here – it’s terrible how they trick people into thinking they have insurance when they don’t.

    Our election cycle is going to be very ugly next year – look for Florida to, once again, embarrass the hell out of us…

  300. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #304 I had one of those dental discount plans (before my company got dental insurance). When my dentist was participating, it was cheaper than paying full fees. However, I just had cleaning, I didn’t have any complex procedures done. But it cost about 100 dollars a year to get half off dental fees, it was better than nothing.

  301. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> my pooer’s dad says:
    >> 307: Candian Bacon – Beer Sucks.

    I like both! I’ve had some good times in Canada drinking Labatt’s and eating bacon pizza.

    But it is hard to beat the beer here in Portland.

  302. flombaye says:

    can it be arranged for orat to filibuster ?

  303. flombaye says:

    borat, really, but nevermind. what a ridiculous system.

  304. Stephie made the cover of Real Detroit Weekly this week:
    http://www.realdetroitweekly.com/cover_image/cover.jpg

    looks like she was being Bad

  305. my pooer's dad says:

    325: Good micro-brews from Portland.

  306. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Jim Weeks says:
    >> 291: No, tort reform has done nothing to reduce costs. Period

    I thought so.

    I have told my conservative friends that tort-reform has been implemented in some states with no reduction, whatsoever, on costs.

    Reality has no impact om them. They just keep claiming that tort-reform is enough reform.

  307. k to the g says:

    it’s bronzer poisoning :mrgreen:

  308. Jersey: The State Where It’s Not Illegal To Screw Animals

  309. Jim Weeks says:

    For over a year, on my radio show, whenever someone calls and talks about tort reform I ask for examples of “outrageous” settlements. They can’t find any. this has been going on for a year and no one, zip, notta, has contacted me with an example.

  310. Amy Outside of DC says:

    I think Jersey’s the best! We gave you the Sopranos, dammit.

  311. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Lambertville, NJ! Go there!

  312. flombaye says:

    332: but why do the animals keep leaving shoes by the water ? you people are confusing me.

  313. my pooer's dad says:

    324: Me too. Paid about 1/4 of my root planing.

  314. shāf says:

    Yes, there’s more to New Jersey than the industrial areas. That said, I saw a burning car on the street near the airport as we landed.

  315. my pooer's dad says:

    333: I heard malpractice causes more deaths than auto accidents each year. So….

  316. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #332: Damn, I guesss this barnyard stakeout is just a big waste of time.

  317. flombaye says:

    they got there before sean penn in a kayak. impressive improvement.

  318. Stephie [getting off plane in Secaucus]: what’s that smell?
    Oh it’s me

    sorry
    skates

  319. I went to an awesome bluegrass festival in the midst of beautiful farmland in southern New Jersey.

  320. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> my pooer’s dad says:
    >> 325: Good micro-brews from Portland.

    We think so! Most pubs here if a fantastic tap selection.

    My favorite Oregon bottled beer is actually from Bend, OR: Deschutes Brewery.

  321. k to the g says:

    338. that’s how they land the planes at night.
    flavin.

  322. Amy Outside of DC says:

    Secaucus is a swamp, hence it’s smell. Not to mention it’s just across the river from Manhattan…

    but seriously, it you take I 287 or I 78 or any of those interstates that aren’t the Turnpike or the Parkway, you’ll see lots of grass and farms and if it smells, it smells like fertilizer.

  323. flombaye says:

    i love the aroma of napalm dropped upon a fig orchard in the morning.
    it smells like fig trees.

  324. Jim Weeks says:

    For 7 weeks, i’ve been asking listeners to find me a nuclear power plant that can be built without tax payer subsidies or rate hikes. They can’t do it. that’s why the energy bill is laden with giveaways for nuclear. That’s also why the Florida Public Service Commission has caved in to Progress Energy and Florida Power and Light. The PSC is now under a criminal investigation into their lobbying and kickbacks. thanks to our corrupt PSC, we now get a 30% rate hike to finance construction of nuclear in out state. The next time someone tells you how profitable nuclear is, ask them why the consumers are are being forced to pay for it.

  325. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #338 This is America. We don’t put airports in nice neighborhoods. I’ve never been to Rickenbacker, but I’ll bet it’s in a bad neighborhood (or a bad neighborhood for Ohio).

  326. Jim Weeks says:

    Less subsidies for nuclear, and more investment in alternatives is the key

  327. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> my pooer’s dad says:
    >> 333: I heard malpractice causes more deaths than auto accidents each year.

    $100,000 limits on malpractice is so insulting. In a couple of years, the money runs out on the victim and they have to go on welfare as a disabled person while the bad doctor keeps practicing and living the high life.

    That is so wrong.

  328. 350 the entire nuke industry is a crime against humanity
    in any real actual world with a shred of justice and truth
    in it all nuke crap would be forever banned and all people
    would rush to beat down anyone sick enuff to try that evil
    junk

    Oh Momma you freak! we love you

  329. flombaye says:

    350: even with the recent great improvements in mitigating ionizing radiation from waste products, profitability is not even on the table. they were never in any danger of being profitable. nobody ever said they could be profitable. a surprisingly simple accounting technique called “being wrong” is what accounts for those assertions.

  330. my pooer's dad says:

    345: I’ll check to see if Friar Tuck’s carries it here.
    BTW – I do like Canadian beer (and bacon) just referencing the movie “Canadian Bacon”. I probably should use better punctuation.

  331. flombaye says:

    356?; boot to the h—-
    yep, you missed.

  332. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Jim Weeks says:
    >> For 7 weeks, i’ve been asking listeners to find me a nuclear power plant that can be built without tax payer subsidies or rate hikes. They can’t do it.

    It is intellectually dishonest to preach “free markets” and also be pro-nuclear power.

    It’s a wonder that more conservatives heads don’t ’splode.

  333. Jim Weeks says:

    The energy bill lowers subsidies for fossil fuels on a progressive scale and is designed to eventually phase out this unsustainable practice. But nuclear is too expensive and is economically unsustainable. Not to mention the dangers.

    Man, we need solar on every home in Florida as a supplement. our current resources cannot sustain our current population so we are building a desalination plant instead of having a comprehensive and sustainable growth policy.

  334. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    My church is having a lecture with a pastor, rabbi and Muslim cleric.

    Maybe I’ll ask them about Obama, if nobody else does.

  335. shāf says:

    #351 Oh, you’re referring to the suburb of Groveport… gateway to Obetz.

  336. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    By the way, it’s true that in Muslim cultures, one is automatically the religion of their father.

    But not in America, for goodness sake!

  337. spiffyhussein says:

    351—-actually, the Minneapolis airport is near a decent neighborhood. I was shocked.

  338. k to the g says:

    Shoebats can navigate at night, so they’re good if you’re lost in the woods.

  339. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #363 So in Islam kids get the religion of the father and in Judaism kids get the religion of the mother. No wonder they are always in conflict.

  340. my pooer's dad says:

    353: A woman here in MO, was hit by a car and is now a parapalegic. Walmart, whom she worked for, sewed her after she won a law suit against the other driver to cover their (Walmarts) losses from their insurance plan. And it’s legal in MO – the system is so effed up.

  341. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Amy Outside of DC says:
    >> #363 So in Islam kids get the religion of the father and in Judaism kids get the religion of the mother. No wonder they are always in conflict.

    Yes, that’s it. (with Hindus and Christians, too.) And, mostly, people don’t fight over it.

    However, in traditional Muslim cultures you are encouraged to convert _TO_ Islam but are forbidden to convert _AWAY_ from it.

    It’s rediculously unfair and many in the majority don’t understand that.

  342. shāf says:

    #366 Who flies a shoe… seriously?

  343. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    Amy,

    Oh, I just got your joke! What if your father is Muslim and your mother is Jewish? He. He.

  344. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Bye all… Have a Joysey day.

  345. Jim Weeks says:

    Tort reform: When they bring it up, ask them this: “Well, how should tort outcomes be reformed?” They don’t know, their heads will explode. I just love when, here in Florida, someone says “$1 million dollars should be the limit!”

    Then I ask: “How do you feel about a limit of $100,000?” They say: “that’s too low! If some doctor kills my wife, he should pay at least $1 million!”

    Then I say: “Well, right now the limit is $100,000, are you saying that we need to raise the cap when you say tort reform?”

    Now, put on your safety glasses because this is whn their heads begin to explode.

  346. shāf says:

    Have a great day, everyone!

  347. my pooer's dad says:

    Bye all. Nice yaking with ya-all.

  348. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> my pooer’s dad says:
    >> 353: A woman here in MO, was hit by a car and is now a parapalegic. Walmart, whom she worked for, sewed her after she won a law suit against the other driver to cover their (Walmarts) losses from their insurance plan. And it’s legal in MO – the system is so effed up.

    I remember that story but didn’t fully understand it.

    Let me get this straight — she received an insurance payment and Walmart sued her to get a cut?

    Is that it?

  349. spiffyhussein says:

    ‘K everyone. Nice to see you. Will talk more later!

  350. k to the g says:

    371 flies in the buttermilk?
    Outta here. Got a shoe to catch. G’day all!

  351. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #380 If I am remembering it right, she sued the trucker that hit her. The truck driver (and his company) paid her a lot of money. Then Walmart sued to her get back the money they already spent on her. It’s not that they wanted a percentage of her winnings, they were trying to recoup money they already spent.
    Just another reason not to live better at Walmart.

  352. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Jim Weeks says:
    >> Now, put on your safety glasses because this is whn their heads begin to explode.

    I wish! But these conservatives never suffer from any cognitive dissonance.

    How many people that “the government should not get between a patient and their doctor” but also “the government should ban abortion under all circumstances”

    How can one preach both without their head a’sploding?

    Well, bye y’all.

  353. #32 Kto the g: Keep your head low. Shoebats of the Right Wing Variety might hit you!

    Bill O’Reilly is a Right Wing Shoebat!

  354. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    >> Amy Outside of DC says:
    >> Walmart sued to her … they were trying to recoup money they already spent.

    I see. They felt she had double-dipped. I wonder how much money it was? Probably a drop in the bucket for Walmart.

    A decent human-person would say, “Oh, that’s 0.000001% or my wealth, I’ll let it go.” but corporations don’t have that kind of moral judgment.

  355. gabby hayes says:

    Jack’s father was a Canadian who moved from St. Thomas, Ontario to Flint, Michigan, to work first in a disreputable establishment his uncles ran in Flint, Michigan (to all appearances, it was a restaurant) and later to work on the line and later the metallurgy lab at GM. I don’t think they had green cards back then, but he did eventually get his citizenship. Jack, my father-in-law was born in Flint, attended a two-year college, married my mother-in-law and immediately enlisted in the Army Air Corps (some years before it was renamed the US Air Force) and was sent to Okinawa to predict weather over Korea, where there was a “police action” going on at the time. He was a very sharp man and rose quickly in rank, became part of the Strategic Air Command when it began and served on a SAC base in Michigan near when he grew up. As the Cold War became infinitely more technical, his expertise in weather led him to be ever more involved with intelligence and in that role, he served in Heidelberg, Ankara, Texas, and finally Fort Meade outside of Baltimore where he was one of the founding generation of NSA, an organization so secret, its initials were said to mean “no such agency.” After 20 years, he had a difficult time dealing with retirement. He sold insurance for a while, tried to get a job as a weatherman at a television station (his lack of a four-year degree stood in his way, just as it had in the service–he retired a senior master sergeant rather than an officer). He was dedicated to his kids and enjoying himself, golfing every chance he got. And when it came to making someone laugh, he had no boundaries–one Christmas he received a set of red “long-johns” and suddenly appeared in the midst of us dressed in his flannel finery as the superhero “Underwear Man”–solving crime, leaping over grandchildren in a single bound, and so forth, to the withering embarrassment of his sons but to the delight of everyone else. He was intensely competitive and would not be proven wrong either logically or on the facts, which is why he and I were usually at odds. This past year or two we watched this athletic and vital man become bedridden because his skeleton seemed to be disintegrating. His vertebrae were becoming crushed together, pinching the nerves that controlled his extremities and experiencing the kind of pain you feel when your leg “goes to sleep”–numbness and burning. My wife retired in order that she could be with him full-time, and I don’t know how they would have coped if not for her nursing experience and dedication to her old man. This morning past one (I babysit my grandchildren most nights until their father gets home from work, so I was still up) my wife called from Baltimore to tell me that her father had just died. So I wanted to let you know a little bit about him. He was one of the guys who prevented nuclear holocaust all those years by outthinking the soviets. One of those real guys about whom could be said, “Deep down inside, in places we don’t talk about at parties, we wanted him on that wall; we needed him on that wall.” In any case, aside from his saving humanity from a fiery end, he was a good man with a big heart and we who loved him will miss him terribly.