LiveBlog for Thursday, October 1, 2009

schakowskyRep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) calls in at 6:30am Pacific to talk about health care reform and bringing the Olympics to Chicago.

Moore• Filmmaker Michael Moore calls in at 7:30am Pacific to talk about his new film, “Capitalism: A Love Story.”

Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ) calls in at 6:30am Pacific to talk about health care reform and other news of the day.

The U.S. and five other world powers began high-stakes talks today with Iran to demand a freeze of its nuclear activities, with a senior U.S. official saying Washington is open to rare one-on-one talks with Iranian diplomats.

• A White House-backed overhaul of the nation’s health care system survived a long day of GOP challenges over abortion, illegal immigration, and other issues yesterday, and the bill’s architect claimed enough votes for passage by the Senate Finance Committee, possibly by the end of the week.

• Samoans dug through the wreckage of homes and told of the terror of being trapped underwater or flung inland by the tsunami that ravaged towns and killed at least 149 people in the South Pacific. Officials expect the death toll to rise as more areas are searched.

First lady Michelle Obama arrived in Copenhagen yesterday to lend her support to Chicago’s effort to win the 2016 Summer Olympics. President Obama arrives in Denmark tomorrow.

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Jack's father was a Canadian who moved from St. Thomas, Ontario to Flint, Michigan, to work first in a disreputable establishment his uncles ran in Flint, Michigan (to all appearances, it was a restaurant) and later to work on the line and later the metallurgy lab at GM. I don't think they had green cards back then, but he did eventually get his citizenship. Jack, my father-in-law was born in Flint, attended a two-year college, married my mother-in-law and immediately enlisted in the Army Air Corps (some years before it was renamed the US Air Force) and was sent to Okinawa to predict weather over Korea, where there was a "police action" going on at the time. He was a very sharp man and rose quickly in rank, became part of the Strategic Air Command when it began and served on a SAC base in Michigan near when he grew up. As the Cold War became infinitely more technical, his expertise in weather led him to be ever more involved with intelligence and in that role, he served in Heidelberg, Ankara, Texas, and finally Fort Meade outside of Baltimore where he was one of the founding generation of NSA, an organization so secret, its initials were said to mean "no such agency." After 20 years, he had a difficult time dealing with retirement. He sold insurance for a while, tried to get a job as a weatherman at a television station (his lack of a four-year degree stood in his way, just as it had in the service--he retired a senior master sergeant rather than an officer). He was dedicated to his kids and enjoying himself, golfing every chance he got. And when it came to making someone laugh, he had no boundaries--one Christmas he received a set of red "long-johns" and suddenly appeared in the midst of us dressed in his flannel finery as the superhero "Underwear Man"--solving crime, leaping over grandchildren in a single bound, and so forth, to the withering embarrassment of his sons but to the delight of everyone else. He was intensely competitive and would not be proven wrong either logically or on the facts, which is why he and I were usually at odds. This past year or two we watched this athletic and vital man become bedridden because his skeleton seemed to be disintegrating. His vertebrae were becoming crushed together, pinching the nerves that controlled his extremities and experiencing the kind of pain you feel when your leg "goes to sleep"--numbness and burning. My wife retired in order that she could be with him full-time, and I don't know how they would have coped if not for her nursing experience and dedication to her old man. This morning past one (I babysit my grandchildren most nights until their father gets home from work, so I was still up) my wife called from Baltimore to tell me that her father had just died. So I wanted to let you know a little bit about him. He was one of the guys who prevented nuclear holocaust all those years by outthinking the soviets. One of those real guys about whom could be said, "Deep down inside, in places we don't talk about at parties, we wanted him on that wall; we needed him on that wall." In any case, aside from his saving humanity from a fiery end, he was a good man with a big heart and we who loved him will miss him terribly.

>> Amy Outside of DC says:
>> Walmart sued to her ... they were trying to recoup money they already spent.

I see. They felt she had double-dipped. I wonder how much money it was? Probably a drop in the bucket for Walmart.

A decent human-person would say, "Oh, that's 0.000001% or my wealth, I'll let it go." but corporations don't have that kind of moral judgment.

#32 Kto the g: Keep your head low. Shoebats of the Right Wing Variety might hit you!

Bill O'Reilly is a Right Wing Shoebat!

>> Jim Weeks says:
>> Now, put on your safety glasses because this is whn their heads begin to explode.

I wish! But these conservatives never suffer from any cognitive dissonance.

How many people that "the government should not get between a patient and their doctor" but also "the government should ban abortion under all circumstances"

How can one preach both without their head a'sploding?

Well, bye y'all.

Come to think of it, Limbaugh is a Right Wing Shoebat!

#380 If I am remembering it right, she sued the trucker that hit her. The truck driver (and his company) paid her a lot of money. Then Walmart sued to her get back the money they already spent on her. It's not that they wanted a percentage of her winnings, they were trying to recoup money they already spent.
Just another reason not to live better at Walmart.

371 flies in the buttermilk?
Outta here. Got a shoe to catch. G'day all!

'K everyone. Nice to see you. Will talk more later!

>> my pooer's dad says:
>> 353: A woman here in MO, was hit by a car and is now a parapalegic. Walmart, whom she worked for, sewed her after she won a law suit against the other driver to cover their (Walmarts) losses from their insurance plan. And it’s legal in MO – the system is so effed up.

I remember that story but didn't fully understand it.

Let me get this straight -- she received an insurance payment and Walmart sued her to get a cut?

Is that it?

Dick "Snotty Boy" Morris is a Right Wing Shoebat!

Bye all. Nice yaking with ya-all.

Have a great day, everyone!

Tort reform: When they bring it up, ask them this: "Well, how should tort outcomes be reformed?" They don't know, their heads will explode. I just love when, here in Florida, someone says "$1 million dollars should be the limit!"

Then I ask: "How do you feel about a limit of $100,000?" They say: "that's too low! If some doctor kills my wife, he should pay at least $1 million!"

Then I say: "Well, right now the limit is $100,000, are you saying that we need to raise the cap when you say tort reform?"

Now, put on your safety glasses because this is whn their heads begin to explode.

Lou Dobbs ia Right Wing Shoebat!

Bye all... Have a Joysey day.

Hannity is a Right Wing Shoebat!

Amy,

Oh, I just got your joke! What if your father is Muslim and your mother is Jewish? He. He.

#366 Who flies a shoe... seriously?

>> Amy Outside of DC says:
>> #363 So in Islam kids get the religion of the father and in Judaism kids get the religion of the mother. No wonder they are always in conflict.

Yes, that's it. (with Hindus and Christians, too.) And, mostly, people don't fight over it.

However, in traditional Muslim cultures you are encouraged to convert _TO_ Islam but are forbidden to convert _AWAY_ from it.

It's rediculously unfair and many in the majority don't understand that.

Boehner is a Right Wing Shoebat!

353: A woman here in MO, was hit by a car and is now a parapalegic. Walmart, whom she worked for, sewed her after she won a law suit against the other driver to cover their (Walmarts) losses from their insurance plan. And it's legal in MO - the system is so effed up.

#363 So in Islam kids get the religion of the father and in Judaism kids get the religion of the mother. No wonder they are always in conflict.

Shoebats can navigate at night, so they're good if you're lost in the woods.

351----actually, the Minneapolis airport is near a decent neighborhood. I was shocked.

Right Wing Shoebat!

By the way, it's true that in Muslim cultures, one is automatically the religion of their father.

But not in America, for goodness sake!

#351 Oh, you're referring to the suburb of Groveport... gateway to Obetz.

My church is having a lecture with a pastor, rabbi and Muslim cleric.

Maybe I'll ask them about Obama, if nobody else does.

The energy bill lowers subsidies for fossil fuels on a progressive scale and is designed to eventually phase out this unsustainable practice. But nuclear is too expensive and is economically unsustainable. Not to mention the dangers.

Man, we need solar on every home in Florida as a supplement. our current resources cannot sustain our current population so we are building a desalination plant instead of having a comprehensive and sustainable growth policy.

>> Jim Weeks says:
>> For 7 weeks, i’ve been asking listeners to find me a nuclear power plant that can be built without tax payer subsidies or rate hikes. They can’t do it.

It is intellectually dishonest to preach "free markets" and also be pro-nuclear power.

It's a wonder that more conservatives heads don't 'splode.

356?; boot to the h----
yep, you missed.

345: I'll check to see if Friar Tuck's carries it here.
BTW - I do like Canadian beer (and bacon) just referencing the movie "Canadian Bacon". I probably should use better punctuation.

I must go
of course will miss you all

350: even with the recent great improvements in mitigating ionizing radiation from waste products, profitability is not even on the table. they were never in any danger of being profitable. nobody ever said they could be profitable. a surprisingly simple accounting technique called "being wrong" is what accounts for those assertions.

350 the entire nuke industry is a crime against humanity
in any real actual world with a shred of justice and truth
in it all nuke crap would be forever banned and all people
would rush to beat down anyone sick enuff to try that evil
junk

Oh Momma you freak! we love you

>> my pooer's dad says:
>> 333: I heard malpractice causes more deaths than auto accidents each year.

$100,000 limits on malpractice is so insulting. In a couple of years, the money runs out on the victim and they have to go on welfare as a disabled person while the bad doctor keeps practicing and living the high life.

That is so wrong.

Less subsidies for nuclear, and more investment in alternatives is the key

#338 This is America. We don't put airports in nice neighborhoods. I've never been to Rickenbacker, but I'll bet it's in a bad neighborhood (or a bad neighborhood for Ohio).

For 7 weeks, i've been asking listeners to find me a nuclear power plant that can be built without tax payer subsidies or rate hikes. They can't do it. that's why the energy bill is laden with giveaways for nuclear. That's also why the Florida Public Service Commission has caved in to Progress Energy and Florida Power and Light. The PSC is now under a criminal investigation into their lobbying and kickbacks. thanks to our corrupt PSC, we now get a 30% rate hike to finance construction of nuclear in out state. The next time someone tells you how profitable nuclear is, ask them why the consumers are are being forced to pay for it.

i love the aroma of napalm dropped upon a fig orchard in the morning.
it smells like fig trees.

Secaucus is a swamp, hence it's smell. Not to mention it's just across the river from Manhattan...

but seriously, it you take I 287 or I 78 or any of those interstates that aren't the Turnpike or the Parkway, you'll see lots of grass and farms and if it smells, it smells like fertilizer.

342 lmao

338. that's how they land the planes at night.
flavin.

>> my pooer's dad says:
>> 325: Good micro-brews from Portland.

We think so! Most pubs here if a fantastic tap selection.

My favorite Oregon bottled beer is actually from Bend, OR: Deschutes Brewery.

Joysey Shore is just fine! So is Atlantic City.

I went to an awesome bluegrass festival in the midst of beautiful farmland in southern New Jersey.

Stephie [getting off plane in Secaucus]: what's that smell?
Oh it's me

sorry
skates

they got there before sean penn in a kayak. impressive improvement.

#332: Damn, I guesss this barnyard stakeout is just a big waste of time.

333: I heard malpractice causes more deaths than auto accidents each year. So....