LiveBlog for Wednesday, September 30, 2009
• Rep. Ron Kind (D-WI) calls in at 6:05am Pacific to talk about health care reform.
• House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-SC) calls in at 6:35am Pacific to talk about health care reform.
• Karl Frisch, Senior Fellow at Media Matters for America, calls in at 7:05am Pacific to help us with Right Wing World.
• Comedian Hal Sparks joins us in studio at 8:05am Pacific for another edition of “Humpdays with Hal.”
• The Senate Finance Committee yesterday rejected two amendments to include a government-run public health insurance option in the only compromise health care bill so far. The amendments were opposed by all 10 GOP-ers on the committee and a few Dems, including committee chairman Sen. Max Baucus of Montana.
• A powerful earthquake in the South Pacific hurled a massive tsunami at the shores of Samoa and American Samoa, flattening villages and sweeping cars and people out to sea, leaving at least 99 dead and dozens missing.
• The U.S. is speeding up its military withdrawal from Iraq, sending 4,000 more troops home next month. The reduced number of troops in Iraq marks the latest U.S. step in winding down the six-year war.
Tags: American Samoa, Hal Sparks, Health Care Reform, Iraq, James Clyburn, Karl Frisch, Max Baucus, Media Matters for America, Public Option, Ron Kind, Samoa
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Good morning, Chris!
Gooood morning Jan!
Good morning, Paulie!
For once I got a good nights sleep. Woke up at 5:30 and decided to eat cereal and make coffee. Hey…it’s Madduane’s birthday today so make sure you give him a verbal spanking!
Glad you got the good night’s sleep. I’ve been trying to get to sleep (or at least lie down in bed) earlier, but all that’s happening so far is that I’m waking up earlier.
They had Pumpkin spice coffee in the cafeteria this morning so I decided try some. mmmmmmmmmm
I’d say that sounds good but I hate flavored coffee. Sorry. I’m a purist. And, I’m old.
6.
Well, I’m a half-purist. I’d never consider flavored coffee at home or if I go to Dunkin Donuts. I got started on the flavored kick at work because when all they had was Starbucks I needed something to get rid of that way-too-strong taste.
And you know I’m old, too….
It’s not the years, Paulie…it’s the mileage!
I noticed last night that Stephanie no longer has a Facebook page.
Well, she never did really. It was someone else using her name (with the caveat that the page had nothing to do with her etc). I’m surprised Facebook allowed that and I wonder who shut the page down.
I don’t know. Facebook’s having problems lately. Look at the “Kill Obama Poll” thing they allowed.
10
That would explain the screams of rage from my wife when she’s sitting at her computer.
Facebook’s always been buggy, but it seems to be worse than usual.
Letting someone else (and it looks like it was without that person’s authorization) put up a page in your name probably shouldn’t have been allowed in the first place. That’s what fan pages are for.
If that had been a page about our previous pResident, there would have been House and Senate resolutions to shut down Facebook, plus 24/7 coverage on Faux.
Rush might have even taken up the entire schedule on all 600+ stations he’s on to bloviate about it.
#10, Facebook didn’t allow it.
Facebook allowed someone to create an App called “Polls”. This application let any user create a poll and let it distribute virally. As there are far too many polls for the creator (who posted to kos, BTW) to monitor, there is a link in the application to report offensive polls – but apparently no one availed themselves of that opportunity. They complained to Facebook directly (which dragged its feet), and to the Secret Service, who contacted the creator of the app and asked him for information on who created the particular poll.
The thing about democratizing our media and interactions is that now it only takes one lone loon to create a major scandal.
Comments directly from the mouth of the creator of the Facebook app Polls: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/28/172752/337
Also, apparently the poll was created Sun. evening and was taken down by the app creator by Mon. morning (it was reported by users as offensive, which put it in a queue to be reviewed). So it sounds like, other than the press furor, the process worked.
Thanks for the clarification, Peter.
OMFG! I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit!
http://rawstory.com/2009/09/judge-ponders-whether-animals-enjoyed-suckling-ex-cops-member/
#17, it’s a fair, if really really gross, question the judge posed.
Like I care about the legality. Jeezuz.
17
Yeah, we’ll just sorta put in at the end of the story that the cop was also accused of sexually assaulting 3 girls. The cow story will sell more.
mornin’ all.
Exactly, Paulie.
Morning, Nick!
This is just beyond stupid:
Harry Potter author JK Rowling missed out on a top honour [presidential medal of freedom] because some US politicians believed she “encouraged witchcraft”, it has been claimed.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8282356.stm
Stephen Hawking has given up his chair at Cambridge (no jokes please).
Hullo
up early, made breakfast… poached eggs, ham, toast,
coffee, juice… watched my nephew’s youtube channel,
“howlandstorm” where he put up a new video of his new
baby brother, born yesterday Sky Arah Day 7lbs 9oz
September 29, 2009
Happy Birthday Madduane! now yer legal to drink, no
more having to hang out in the Liquor Barn parking
lot hoping Momma will drive up and agree to buy for you…
Do we even know if Mama will show up today? Did she party too hearty?
Of course, if Hal’s going to be there it might make a difference.
Good morning, Mark!
24 sounds apocryphal… but true
JK Rowlings DOES encourage witchcraft. All those 5th graders
ought to be rounded up and burnt at the stake. Mocking us
for being Muggles. Smokin’ the Muggles more like. That woman
is a threat to decent society, just like Mad Magazine.
Subversives, I tell you. Adulterating our Precious Moral
Fibers with their interwebs… it’s a plot!
Oh mamma will show up…how alert & coherent she’ll be is another question.
28 Hi Jan! Hope you are well this morning!
Kooky little long-coated chihuahua is “creepy mousing” me,
making little squeaking noises like he’s a mouse as he
sits on the back of the couch and gives me the Eye.
I know what he wants, More Breakfast Kibbles.
30 I think yer right Nick, she’ll be here, a little bleary,
a little worse for wear and tear
#29: Ah yes. The ’seduction of the innocent’ argument.
#32 I think Mamma could do with a little MORE ‘wear & tear’.
OK, this is a long one but bear with me:
LA– Following a particularly stressful day at her sucessful
radio show, sultry talk radio celebrity Stephanie Miller, 38, announced Tuesday she would take a hot, steamy bath upon
returning to her spacious Los Angeles compound.
“Shortly after I arrive home I will draw a lavender-scented
bubble bath in my antique, claw-foot porcelain tub,” said
Stephanie Miller, pulling a bobby pin from her hair and
releasing a cascade of shimmering auburn hair down the nape
of her neck. “Once I have deemed the temperature of the
bathwater to be just right, I will allow my terry-cloth robe
to slip slowly off my shoulders and gather seductively
around my feet, leaving my firm, nearly flawless body
completely exposed.”
“At this point, I will most likely take a moment to look
into the mirror and think about how there are times in
my busy life when I just want a man — any man, really — to
satisfy my every sexual desire,” Stephanie Miller continued. “Because, while I may be a no-nonsense career woman who
should be taken seriously, I am, after all, still a
woman.”
According to Stephanie Miller, following a long day spent
competing with men on her own tough and uncompromising
terms, she deserves some time to pamper herself and
express her femininity. Because she is such an unrelenting
perfectionist when it comes to her profession, Stephanie
Miller said that her other, softer qualities — such as
her gourmet culinary training and her years spent as a
semiprofessional ballet dancer — are often overshadowed.
When I’m lying in the tub, the bubbles just barely covering
my perfect pink nipples, I can feel all the pressures of
my high-paying, fast-paced job just melt away,” Stephanie
Miller said. “Maybe it’s George Michael’s ‘Careless Whisper’
playing on the stereo, or the gentle nighttime breeze
blowing through the curtains of my giant compound, but as
I’m washing every contour of my impossibly lithe frame,
I really begin to feel like myself again.”
“And when I slowly submerge my head beneath the water,
letting the telephone ring unanswered, that’s when I
truly transform into a gorgeous, sensual woman with a
strong libidinal appetite instead of just some incredibly
successful female professional,” Stephanie Miller added.
In addition to celebrating her femininity, Stephanie Miller
said she would use her time spent bathing to reflect on
her decision to delay starting a family, a lifelong dream
she has had to put on hold in order to focus on a career
that can be ruthless and even cutthroat.
It is also Stephanie Miller’s intention to close her eyes,
smile in a rather suggestive manner, and let out a small,
feminine sigh of satisfaction while in her bathtub tonight.
Though the sexy, take-no-prisoners career woman did not
specify how long she would remain in the bathroom, she
did confirm that after completing her ablutions and air-drying
in the nude, she would carefully apply a rich, apricot-based
lotion to her supple frame, despite the fact that her
unblemished skin is already taut and butter-smooth.
“Every once in a while, I need some time for myself to
recharge,” Stephanie Miller told a crowd of reporters,
her fingers absentmindedly undoing the third button of
her tight silk blouse to reveal the smallest hint of a
delicate black-lace bra. “It’s important to me that I
reconnect with my womanhood so I can wake up the next
day, put on my short, formfitting pantsuit and black 6-inch
patent-leather stiletto pumps, and confidently reenter the
no-holds-barred, male-dominated field in which I excel.”
Before leaving her office for the evening, Stephanie Miller
added that she hopes some day she won’t have to choose.
– with apologies to The Onion
She should be burned at the stake for inventing the word “muggles”.
How is it we speak the same language, and yet when we make up nonsense words, it’s fairly clear which nonsense words are British, and which are Aussie, and which are American?
Mark that was beautiful…and disturbing. The Stephanie Miller experience by way of Harlequin Romance. With Fabio on the cover, of course.
Good lord, Mark! Fantasize much?
JK Rowling did not make up the word “muggles”. “Muggles” was also a slang term for pot back in the early 30s, 40s, and even into the 50s.
37, 38 hee hee.
I can’t really take credit. A quick “find and replace” from
the piece in The Onion. But it’s kind of a Birthday Tribute
for her, like shop-lifting an expensive bottle of wine and
gift wrapping it…
The last time I saw the term “muggles” applied to marijuana was in John Steinbeck’s fine little novel, “Sweet Thursday”.
So all non-magical folk are marijuana. Brings a new meaning to pole smoking.
The more you know…
(and knowing is half the battle)
*hits buzzer for Nick*
Mornin’ Blog!
And Nick sashays over to the penalty box…
Mmmmmmmm…penalty box.
Goooood morning, Rocky!
*does the sit-down boogie*
OK I’m officially sick of the ’sausage being made’ analogy.
#50, yeah, because sausage is tasty.
Say, Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas is the only Dem who voted against public option yesterday that has an election coming up in 2010. Does anyone know if she has a primary opponent I could send money to?
39 Muggles, also from “Mug” an easily fooled person,
as in “Afghanistan is a Mug’s Game, Jim”
Damn Harry Potter. Now my kids go around mocking me and
putting spells on me. Caused me to lose my job and lay on
the couch drunk and needing a shave in my boxer shorts and
wife-beater tank-top…
Blanche was not the only Dem that voted against it. Rachael Maddow did a run-down last night.
“Needing a shave in my boxer shorts…” ? Ummmmm…
As I said, Blanche is the only one who voted against it that also is up for election next year.
Momma! ya made it in… and looking Good in yer drunken
birthday girl outfit this morning… I see you haven’t
been home yet… hey, put a comb thru that hair, wouldya?
Public option, under HR3200, is open only to people for whom insurance is currently NOT available from 2013-2016. But in 2016, apparently, the public option is opened up to anyone.
#56: my apologies. missed that part.
55 lmao! ditint even know whut I was saying…
If HR3200 is passed, you can bet your bottom dollar that in 2016 there will be a mass move by corporate HR departments from private plans to the public option.
Dennis Kucinich proposed expanding Medicare to admit everyone. And, I have heard cogent, factual arguments for that move.
wanna have some fun google Muggles+Satanism
Actually, that was Monday – not yesterday, Steph!
Those silly little errors… “q” or “n”
Chris hates our ass face.
5,6 one word on flavored coffee: Bourbon
65 ’cause you’re Bastard People
Witches=bad. Faith healers=good. Huh? Wha??
Good mornin all!
Wow! Why does Michael Steele hate America?
Michael Steele is full of muggles.
Whay does Michael Steele sound like a Hanna Barbera character?
See!
“Harry Potter books are cool, ’cause they teach you all
about magic and how you can use it to control people
and get revenge on your enemies,” said Hartland, WI,
10-year-old Craig Nowell, a recent convert to the New
Satanic Order Of The Black Circle. “I want to learn
the Cruciatus Curse, to make my muggle science teacher
suffer for giving me a D.” [A 'muggle' is an unbeliever
of magic.]
Or how about the REALLY young and innocent impressionable
mind of a 6 year old when asked about her favorite
character: “Hermione is my favorite, because she’s
smart and has a kitty,” said 6-year-old Jessica Lehman
of Easley, SC. “Jesus died because He was weak and
stupid.”
And here is dear Ashley, a 9 year old, the typical average
age reader of Harry Potter: “I used to believe in what
they taught us at Sunday School,” said Ashley, conjuring
up an ancient spell to summon Cerebus, the three-headed
hound of hell. “But the Harry Potter books showed me that
magic is real, something I can learn and use right now,
and that the Bible is nothing but boring lies.”
Swing and a miss, Michael Steele. Idiot.
Michael Steele really likes lingonberry jelly on his imaginary oreos.
I was in synch with Jim Ward! Wooo hooo…or…uh…
#73: Brilliant! Another one joins the coven! Soon we shall be invincible.
73 and if you believe those quotes I got some Enron stock to sell ya…
75 lingonberry!
I love Ikea, and I’m not even a gay guy
Why isn’t Mikey Steal in jail, that corrupt scumbag.
Oh, wait, I forgot…
ah Ha! Mikey Steal, Dreadful Sara, “Bobby” Jindal… the
Rethugs think they got “minorities” in the party now that
will attract people… run with that see where it gets ya…
The reason religious wackos hate Harry Potter is that they don’t want their children to learn to distinguish fantasy from reality, then apply that skill to the Bible.
Three Dog Nite for Sara Palin… along with the Grass Roots and
Tommy James and the Shondells… NOT
Morning all!
I love Ikea, and I’m not a gay guy, either.
Morning, Skyhawk!
Going Rouge — Dreadful Sara Palin
Going Commando — Beautiful Momma
Too High? wanna come down quick? Better than Thorazine:
google the “Neofeudalism”… then look around
Personally I can’t wait until they translate the Codex Sinaiticus and everyone can see the changes to the Word of the Lord over the centuries.
I want someone to explain to me why it is that I manage to get a full night’s sleep, wake up early, eat breakfast, have coffee, do some live blogging…and now I feel like taking a nap. Cheezuz, I’m old.
I’m not a believer in any religious texts.
Jan I blame it on Cheezuz.
The only reason I’m staying awake is because I’m hoping Hal and Steph actually consummate their love.
88 that will be cool, I know about the Nag Hammadi scrolls,
the Qumran Scrolls… ditint know about the Codex Sinaiticus,
must czech it out…
in the meantime there’s always the Rig Vedas and the Hittite
libraries…
I need a list of the Senators who voted against the Public Option.
93 Stephy is waiting for Hal to Justify her love…
Okay…is it me, or does this guy sound a little like a stuttering Barry White?
#88, that’s a pretty late document, relatively speaking. The canon had been pretty fully formed by the time it was first written.
#94 it was just found this month in an egyptian monastery. google Codex Sinaiticus.
I have a question. Why is the Senate Finance committee so important to paying for health care? Doesn’t the Constitution give the power of the purse to the House?
#94, the Ugaritic texts are of far greater interest than the Hittite ones, as Ugarit’s religion sheds a lot of light on the West Semitic religion prior to the merger of El with the local national deity.
95 – Here you go:
Tom Carper, Delaware http://carper.senate.gov/contact/
Bill Nelson, Florida http://billnelson.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
Max Baucus, Montana http://baucus.senate.gov/contact/emailForm.cfm?subj=issue
Kent Conrad, North Dakota https://conrad.senate.gov/contact/webform.cfm
Blanch Lincoln, Arkansas http://lincoln.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
BAUCUS: Phone: (202) 224-2651 Fax: (202) 224-9412
LINCOLN: Phone: (202) 224-4843 Fax: (202) 228-1371
CONRAD: Phone: (202) 224-2043 Fax: (202) 224-7776
NELSON: Phone: (202) 224-5274 Fax: (202) 228-2183
CARPER: Phone: (202) 224-2441 Fax: (202) 228-2190
95 here George:
Contact info for Democratic Senators that voted against Pub…
http://boards.ign.com/teh_vestibule/b5296/185585458/p1/
congressman is harshin my buzz. Can’t we just start rounding
up insurance co CEOs and caging them and poking them with
sharp sticks?
Kill Corporate Personhood, Kill All the Lobbyists… if you
want your country back.
#98 but it’s the earliest found so far. Still 4thC to 14thC (Tyndale english): that’s a lot of time.
Have I mentioned that I hate Repuglicans lately?
#99, the codex has been known for a while. But it’s been broken up into several chunks over the centuries, and the recent discovery is of a lost fragment.
101 oh Snap! thanx Peter, you always got the Goods.
Ugaritic Texts… I’ll take a look
in the meantime, let’s get the F#$#$@$K out of Afghanistan…
#100 – maybe referring to Art I Sect 7 — says “shall originate”? — House doesn’t have sole power (next sentence). Both required.
#103, yes, but its differences from more recent codices is mainly in the spellings of Hebrew names, apparently. Apparently it dates from between 325 and 360; meaning the most recent texts in it were already 200 years old and largely standardized by the time it was written.
Hiya, Bloggoes!
How’s evvabuddy?
#100, it’s also important that Finance report something out, because that’s essential for getting it through reconciliation.
#105 you are correct. my mistake. still can’t wait.
*cues up Beatles* YOU SAY IT’S YOUR BIRTHDAY! GONNA HAVE A GOOD TIME! YOU SAY IT’S YOUR BIRTHDAY! WELL, HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!
It’s Madduane’s birthday! *fireworks*
Happy Birthday Madduane!
Happy B-Day Madduane!
i know that voice.
trent franks is “quagmire”.
109
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MADDUANE!!!!
WAHOOOOOO!!!
I’m just sick of reamed by people wielding the bible like a club justifying every little thing because its the ‘word of god’ and his word is inviolate.
I want to show them the changes & go “which word now?”
Put up a “Check your guns at the door” sign.
I think we should turn oh, say, the Texas Panhandle (important because it’s square) into a red equivalent of the Gaza Strip. Then we can move all these idiots into their own ghetto and they can continue to feel oppressed and live in their own idiocy. Then they’d know what it’s like.
I’m sorry that was insane and fascistic of me.
david cassidy’s musical questions about arizona were fully prescient.
which mook was that that lived there ?
were they the “little town saint” ?
Phyllis Schafley is a mummified John Birch Society shill, I think…
Thanks for the B-Day wishes, guys & gals!
hitler was famous for “arrogant groveling” just like obama.
- and having well-adjusted partners who briefly considered him an alternative to suicide – just like that loser, michelle.
The Joey Goebbels School of Journalism Graduates
include:
Limbulb
Inannity
Savage
O’Biley
Mark Levine
etc
36: “How is it we speak the same language, and yet when we make up nonsense words, it’s fairly clear which nonsense words are British, and which are Aussie, and which are American?”
well said for a pommy frood.
NewsMax, home of the floor-humper?
The “Obama Problem”?!!! izzat like the “jewish problem”?
is the right wing solution to both killing them?
Where does the Constitution prohibit nationalization and bail-outs?
Ummm… THis is sedition. Textbook.
43: “(and knowing is half the battle)”
i’ve noticed that the IRS NOT knowing is the other half. – i was doing fine until that auditor whipped out the commercial….
“albertson’s ! it’s your store !” ….
“ahem… sir, when were you planning on telling us that albertson’s is your store ?”
Who was that again?
53: still, the harry potter vibrating broom stick makes a fine richard simmons tranquilizer when a fire extinguisher just isnt enuff.
#118, agreed – the problem is, we have very few truly intermediate texts. Believers have had centuries to redact.
80: “the Rethugs think they got “minorities” in the party now that
will attract people… run with that see where it gets ya…”
do they have an incurable gay yet besides lavort ?
135 — all the Republican gays have been hanging in the closet for years. Well cured by now…
90: “I’m not a believer in any religious texts.”
soon. just hang in there. my sequel to the bible is going to have cool braille subtitles in babelese, a scratch-n-sniff job tribulation experience, and a really cool cameo by archie and jughead.
Flom did you type “frood”?
Where is your towel…
I’ll pass.
“Hummus con cous cous? hmmm…
Who is your editor? This must be discouraged…
#125, that’s very hoopy of you to say.
140 — THis doesn’t make any sense! WTF are you talking about, Diane???
118: “people wielding the bible like a club justifying every little thing because its the ‘word of god’ and his word is inviolate.
I want to show them the changes & go “which word now?””
well, yeah that, or just show them “captain underpants”.
it’s just better. the characters and the story lines are more credible.
Why did they make us read “Lord of the Flies” back in the day
in Junior High School? Were they actually trying to tell us
something, or teach us some valuable lesson? I dunno, but as
I look back my suspicion and distrust of the school system
caused me to think they were just trying to screw with our
heads… but then my idea was that the schools existed to
indoctrinate/brainwash/warehouse us, certainly not to educate
or teach us…
Who was that tool calling for a military overthrow in the USA?
128: “The “Obama Problem”?!!! izzat like the “jewish problem”?
is the right wing solution to both killing them?”
the difference is, the obama history will probably include a “wailin-on-yo-ass” wall, with a regulation hoop.
I saw that on an episode of ST:TOS
If nothing else, Secret Service agents have job security with all of these nuts running around.
Was it Strom or Jesse that threatened a military coup should Clinton visit a military base on his state.
Lucky SOB did it on the Senate floor, where it falls under “speech and debate”.
The “bloodless coup” part reminds one of the shenanigans the ant-FDR people tried to lure Gen. Butler into.
147 — Indeed? Fascinating!
135 LaVort is tooly, possibly with authoritarian leanings [he
does really really like cops... mebbe it's some kind of 'buff
guy in macho uniform Village People drag fetish' thing] or
mebbe it’s just that he’s got cops in his family… but I
wouldn’t call him a Rethuglican
138: “Flom did you type “frood”?
Where is your towel…”
my blonde.
i think i just wasted 20 minutes searching the garden.
i can haz spelling lessons ?
137 will there be a center-fold?
Are we sure Schafly isn’t a Disney animatron?
these people have talked about cooze as well…
Liveblog feed died. Switching to Green 960 and Internet Exploder.
140: ““Hummus con cous cous? hmmm… Who is your editor?”
…. dodging the noonday traffic, barry white slips into a phone booth (ask your grandparents), grabs his whip, and becomes….
THE MIGHTY GARBANZO !
Black Power movement? I didn’t get the memo from Black Central.
155 — Oooh, I’ve never seen the inside of the penalty box before…
Might want to point out that:
Hitler was never elected. He lost election to President Hindenburg
He was appointed chancellor.
When Hindenburg died, he became head of state.
No more elections were held.
The democratic state of Germany set up after WWI was overthrown by Hitler and his Nazi party, whose main rallying point were anti-communism and anti-semitism.
He declared himself dictator.
ALike Bush, Hitler came to power by being appointed.
Great take on Phyllis Shlafly by Ann Telnaes:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/opinions/anntelnaes/
So awesome.
Hate these creatures. I hates them, preciousssssssssss….
144: “Why did they make us read “Lord of the Flies” back in the day
in Junior High School? Were they actually trying to tell us
something, or teach us some valuable lesson?”
they were just saying it pretty much stays this way.
149 YES! Thank You Peter, most people know nothing of that.
And who was involved? that’s right, Nazi Prescott Bush, along
with his other pals.
evvyboddy who don’t know about it oughtta read up on it.
read
Smedley Butler’s “War is a Racket” too
here is that episode Patterns of Force (Star Trek: The Original Series)
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
SHUT UP, HUME!
#160, he wasn’t elected because that’s not how parliamentary politics first. His party poached voters from the Catholic Center party until it got enough to form a government.
159 the penalty box is still trashed from yesterday.
the maid quit
that bitch
Krauthammer just made a Monty Python reference???
Can’t someone put Krauthammer in a puddle and taze him? Sorry…NOT
Arrrg! Rethugs making cool Monty Python references! My head is going to explode!
Woohoo! Great show today…
Stop saying NUCULAR! It makes you sound stupid.
have to leave now.
dnt take it like i hate you tricksy muggles,
even thoe you’re BASTARD tricksy muggles.
and you,
yes YOU….
you know who you are…
your ASS FACE is
precioussssss.
pasta la pizza.
Senators: what we the people want is the same healthcare coverage that you yourselves enjoy. What. Is. So. Hard. To. Understand?
#164, the connection to Prescott Bush is, to my understanding, inferential, mainly through his own associates (and later “trading with the enemy” legal issues). The names of the actual conspirators were stricken from the Congressional record. Butler was livid that only sparse details of his testimony were ever revealed.
There’s a lot of speculation that the reason the conspirators were never tried or outed is that FDR used this info to blackmail them to stop opposing the New Deal.
Karl has it backwards. All three committees in the House have the PO, and one of two in the Senate. Only one does not.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MADDUANE!
Sharing your day with sexy ladies Marion Cotillard (34), Angie Dickinson (78), Jenna Elfman (38) and Fran Drescher (52) and talented gentlemen Tony Hale (39), Eric Stoltz (48) and Len Cariou (70).
Joining you all an hour plus late – our servers down this AM.
My town was so poor that we couldn’t afford a school. It was just a piece of tarpaulin covering a great big hole in the ground. But we did have pictures of the president hanging off the exposed roots.
“All the Sunday shows”
Except yours!
Had to chime in here…I attended many of the tea parties and have a pretty good collection of photos…including a guy in St Augustine, FL with a sign: “Why Can’t We Be Like Honduras? Remove Obama”. We got the interview with the Nazi Sign Guy who showed up here at the Jacksonville Landing tea party and then there’s the guy who came wearing a diaper…we got kicked out of The Landing tea party but continued on to all of the others we could get to. We have miles of footage and were accused of being former Acorn employees by the DC 912 folks (the same guy we saw here in Florida). Some of the video is posted but we are saving the really good stuff for the film.
Every week is Hitler week on the History Channel.
181 — Jim, Are you one of the folks responsible for the 10 minute youtube thing that Steph has played bits of on the show?
WTG, Jim Weeks! I look forward to the film.
“Hitler was a medium, not a true shaman,
and hence subject to obsession and possession
by all varieties of insane, weird, destructive
influences and entities” — Rob’t Anton Wilson
Bush was a medium, not an adept. And not even a
very good medium. Too much fuzz in the signal.
Vertical hold out of sink. Evil Dick Cheney was
always pissed off Bush was such a blunt implement.
The stupid brain-damaged twit was incapable of
telling a decent lie with a straight face, or
stringing a sentance together.
I wouldn’t piss down George Bush’s throat if his
heart was on fire and I was doing it to save his
life. He was a shameless tyrant who tried to destroy
the United States and take over the world. He was a
willing puppet of the darkest forces ever unleashed
against mankind.
Dictatorship, martial law, torture, wars of aggression,
corruption and cronyism: Little Georgie Bush the evil
little bastard loves all of it. He should be incarcerated
in one of his own torture prisons.
– me
I think the whole pretzel story was a cover up for how Bush really got the black eye. It must have been something that would have been worse than hitting your head because you choked on a pretzel. I think someone hit him. The only person who could have gotten away with that was Laura. I think Laura smacked him when she found out about Condi.
176 damn you’re good Pete
I salute you
Here’s and excerpt of what happened to us in DC for the 912 event…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWqlK9A0aa8&feature=player_embedded
Hee hee…this is great fun…Joe is now in S Florida, outside of Limbaugh’s house, looking for an interview
)
there’s no push back?
“Pounding Palin” is that the title of book or the new porn movie?
FL Sen. Bill Nelson needs to step down.
Dam straight, lets take out Blanche Lincoln in the primary!
#190: it’s the sequel to “Nailin’ Palin”
Let me explain this. “Socio” means people (Soylent Green IS people!).
The Socialist Party can thus be translated as “The People’s Party”.
The NAZI party can be roughly translated as the “The REAL German Party.”
Just like Bachmann, when she claimed that only some Americans were REAL Americans.
In Germany under Hitler, a REAL German was white, blond haired, blue eyed, and a Christian. Sound familiar?
In conclusion, Socialism is to Naziism as:
The People’s Party
is to
The White People’s Party.
Which tells you who the REAL NAZI’s are. Projection much?
Max Baucus = Max Backup
re the “Business Plot” attempted Coup d’etat of 1933:
“the plotters represented notable families –Rockefeller,
Mellon, Pew, Pitcairn, Hutton; and great enterprises–
Morgan, Dupont, Remington, Anaconda, Bethlehem, Goodyear,
GMC, Swift, Sun…. Some people named as plotters laughed,
all denied everything.
“The reader who wishes to examine the official testimony is
referred to the government report, `Investigation of Nazi
Propaganda Activities and Investigation of Certain Other
Propaganda Activities: Public Hearings Before the Special
Committee on Un-American Activities, House of
Representatives, Seventy-third Congress, Second Session,
at Washington, DC, December 29, 1934. Hearings No. 73-D.C.-6,
Part 1.”
183 – not us…however, our Jax tea party photos made Olbermann’s Worst Persons In The World http://jimweeks.50webs.com
And, don’t forget, look at this stuff after Steph’s show or during the news break…I think she’s moved on to a different topic now
195 “Mr. Baucus, the prostitute dressed as a nurse is here to
give you your coffee enema”
“Oh, I’m sorry, is it too hot?”
“No, too sweet”
195 Maximum Balk Us
198 skating
Howard Dean vs. Rahm Emanuel
I think Conservadems aren’t afraid of Michael Moore.
But they should be terrified of Richard Tromka.
#202, Richard Trumka, that is.
201 — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssS0rTVl4-Y
Yes I noticed that Steph’s facebook page was gone. I was afraid it was my fault for friending her. I thought maybe she was tired of reading my single payer posts. (She is one of my sources for news…)
If you listen to conservative news, the health insurance companies have a profit margin of 1 percent.
And I’ve got a bridge to sell…
Malpractice insurance costs have everything to do with the number of players in a local market. In a lot of markets, it’s 1 or 2 major players.
Same as in heath insurance, oddly enough.
Beveridge, not Public Option.
One of the more interesting tidbits in the news today is that Max Baucus is perhaps the poorest U.S. Senator. He lists his NET WORTH at a NEGATIVE $40,000!! Nice to have someone like that heading up the finance committee. From an article in Roll Call:
http://www.rollcall.com/issues/55_32/news/39009-1.html?type=printer_friendly
Chris is right, both Steph and I are not Gen X. But who needs labels anyway? And maybe Steph had her birth year legally changed? I was born in 59, and am proud to be on the tail end of the Hippie Generation, which ended in 1964.
Sheboygan … still under the SMS news radar.
It would be the greatest healthcare system in this hemisphere… if it wasn’t for those Canadians!
morning all lets ask baucus if he thinks his plan is going to get
60 votes I say hell no then why is he voting for it.Time for him to go
did you happen to see Mika get all up that some dem rep from florida said the cons are trying to kill you! Now she’s all up in arms nothing to say about all the lies the less than statesman cons have put out for say the last 50 years.
Time to double down and have Pelosi push kucinich’s amendment for single payer tell the cons here’s your choice single payer or public option.
#130, #147-149, #164, #185, #196: Here’s what can happen when the military overthrows your democratically elected government: your rights and constitutional protections disappear. Then YOU disappear:
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/ourdisappeared/
Does anyone ever look at health care reform as a job creator? Think about it, with millions more on the rolls, there will need to be a massive hiring effort. Especially in the call center industry to begin with. CSR’s will be need to handle to mass amount of calls and there will need to be a huge hiring effort for trainers. Forecasters and schedulers will be in great need, as will PBX techs and other IT functions.
They will need a lot of claims examiners and adjusters. They will need printed materials, web apps, office space, etc., etc..
A strong public option or single payer would require massive hiring. But this may reduce unemployment and the right wing can’t have low unemployment – it is not in their DNA…no Republican has ever left office with unemployment under 5%. Source: http://www.bls.gov/data/
“It can’t happen heeeere” – Frank Zappa
216 — I love that alb.
Ins. bought Baucus – and Baucus bought Reid — the Baucus version of Health Care “Reform” will (now) not increase Nevada’s Medicaid cost – unlike most states, Nevada will now get 100% federal reimbursement for the Baucus Medicaid state cost increase.
Hmm… so Reid is now touting (in his as-of-now failing reelection race) to Nevada voters that he has secured lots of new federal $$. What is the payback??
No reconciliation brought by Reid? When the H.E.L.P. bill is merged with the Finance Committee bill – the public option in the H.E.L.P. bill will not remain in the final brought to the Senate floor??
205
It can’t be your fault, because it wasn’t her.
I twould be cool to have “Trouble Every Day” played all the way through on the radio somewhere. What a great message song.
It took me years to forget that song. THANKS!
221 — Jan, what song?
I WISH there was a lock box!
#196, yeah, that’s as close as I’ve found to naming actual names.
OK guest. How we gonna pay for this?
Lemme splain it to you, doofus.
THIS WILL REDUCE COSTS
We already treat people without insurance, very expensively,
in Emergency Rooms. This will make that care cheaper.
I can’t even keep on with this explaination. You Blow Dogs
make me vomit.
The Bobby Sherman song, Madduane.
You pay for by eliminating the cap on FICA/OASDI, and bringing the capital gains tax up from 14% to the highest marginal tax rate paid on income.
One way to pay is to let the Bush tax cut expire. That’s 1.7 trillion right there. Roll back the Reagan tax cuts that a couple more trillion.
#186 – similar to the time Ann Coulter had her jaw wired shut. You know that somebody had to have socked her in the face.
Bobby Sherman hasn’t aged well.
Dan, HE had his jaw wired shut. Should have had that adams apple removed while HE was in the hospital.
#228: the Reagan tax cuts have to be rolled back too.
And what Skyhawk said.
#212 Amy wrote: “It would be the greatest healthcare system in this hemisphere… if it wasn’t for those Canadians!”
I read an article that Chile’s healthcare system might be better than ours and they have a per capita annual income under $15,000. I believe their government-run system costs less than $800/citizen. My brother, a recently-retired exec. with the Mayo Clinic, made quite a few trips down there to advise on matters of quality and efficiency at the request of the Chilean government.
My concern with public health care is that once the program is in place, the Republicans will try time and again to gut it.
Why not just confiscate all of the Bush Crime Family’s (including Cheney, Rice…..) under the RICO statutes.
236
stick “assets” in there after Family. Must need more caffeine.
Steph is part of the Beat Generation
#227 SS needs no changes. The trust fund is SUPPOSED to be paid down to nothing. If you lift the cap on contributions, you have to lift the cap on benefits.
General revenues are the one with the problem. Raise the top marginal income tax rate on the 250k earners 14 points and you get the same amount of money, but you do it the right way without perpetuating the BS meme that SS has a problem.
236 – That’s expected. They still have a target on social security.
Tim Kaine really is missing in action. Obama made a huge mistake replacing Dean with Kaine, and giving voice to Rahm.
239: Didn’t say SS has a problem. Said the cap on the tax needs to be removed, so those making $110k per year and over pay the same as you and I into the system. Since the 15% people kick in is split between FICA and OASDI, a portion could be used to help fund the public option. Michael Moore will probably talk about this tomorrow.
#234 We would have the best healthcare system in this hemisphere… if it wasn’t for those countries starting with C!
#144: At first, the message I got from being assigned “Lord of the Flies” in school was “you kids just can’t be trusted without adult supervision!”
Morning all! Hey, Maybe doctor governor chairman Howard Dean could give the Dems some of those testicular infusions we heard about.
#234 Yeah,certainly if you’re poor and need healthcare you’re better off in Canada, Chile, Cuba, Costa Rica, Colombia . . . Well maybe not Colombia.
#242, and you are wrong on that. Social Security is not an entitlement. It is wage insurance. Contributions are capped at $110k, and so are benefits. As it should be.
Remove the cap, and you just allow general revenues to suckle at Social Security’s teat forever. The whole point to paying the trust fund down is to return Social Security pay-as-you-go, as it was always intended to be.
If you need to raise revenue for other programs, do it by raising income taxes. Do NOT do it on the back of Social Security. SS contributions are supposed, by law, to ONLY go for paying SS benefits.
you’re probably better off in Carbonara than Columbia.
YAY! Thanks Steph
Yii.. You guys are rockin’ today. Sparta is a lead pipe cinch..
Sorry I’m late, I couldn’t raise my weary head from the pillow. Speaking of pillows, one of mine is missing.
I had the strangest dream this morning, I was eating a giant marshmallow..
Good morning, good morning, good morning-ga!
#242, oh, and the Medicare contribution is not, to my understanding capped. Just Social Security.
I once gave myself to Jesus but he never called back.
Cheerleaders in OGLE-thorpe? Hello….. Squeezy to the rescue.
is it me or does Thom Hartmans show have a lots of ” tecnical difficulties” ???
Squeezy you are a sick puppy. I love it!
Squeezy’s on a roll this morning..
romper room
No one’s going to watch Kate Plus 8. The kids are too old to be always adorable, and watching Kate pick on Jon was part of the fun.
“Official tweeter” more fart jokes?
Jim a thespian? I didn’t know he rolled THAT way..
Soon it will be Kate plus 7
Kevin Spacey said: “Tell them we’re busy!”
Hmmm.. just got new cell phones, I wonder if I can get a fart ring?
My boss’s cell phone yells “IGNORE ME!!!”
gotta love that.
Laurence Fishburne had to stop a performance to chastise a guy talking on his cell phone.
Spank Hal momma for being bad.
#171: Not the first time a RWer reached for a Python … Back in the day, Margaret Thatcher referenced the Dead Parrot in a speech … her audience lapped it up but the Pythons were Not Amused.
They should be giving each other belated birthday spanks.
I am a retired electronic design engineer by trade. I’ve work on various types of RF jammers, and visualized a device for theater use. It has 2 button switches: ON/OFF and None/All. In the None mode, all cellphones in the area are jammed and will not ring. In the All mode, they all ring at once and have to be turned off to silence them.
Whaddya think? I need a marketing name for it.
Let’s see Micheal Jackson didn’t do it and he was villified. Roman Polanski does it and all is forgiven?
One suggestion was the Ronco Asshole-O-Matic..
#264, is it the Galactus-sendup character from The Venture Brothers?
Now, Chris, the judge was gonna “alter the deal” (to quote Darth Vader). I think he was willing to honor the agreement they made, but the Judge was going to give him a much lengthier sentence. THAT’s why he skipped.
… MOONnn RightWinger..
wider than a mile..
269
Except that unfortunately is illegal here.
For a theater just embed a fine wire mesh into the walls / ceiling and ground it.
Chris: allegedly Polanski skipped because he thought the judge was going to reneg on the plea deal
275
Or, an RF detector (tuned to the cell bands) will kill the projector whenever it detects a transmitting phone. Let the patrons do the rest
“The FICA tax is comprised of two components: the Old Age Survivor and Disability Insurance program (”OASDI”) imposing tax at the rate of 12.4 percent of employment income and the Medicare portion imposing tax at a rate of 2.9 percent. The FICA tax is split equally between employer and employee.
SETA imposes the entire combined OASDI and Medicare tax of 15.3 percent on the self-employment income of the individual, although individuals may deduct one-half of the SETA tax in calculating their adjusted gross income. The OASDI portion of the FICA and SETA tax is capped at $102,000 for 2008, while the Medicare portion is not limited by any cap.”
Remove the cap, allocate a higher portion to medicare, which becomes the public option. A portion could also be used to help pay back the IOUs taken from SS over the years. Then, we ALL pay approximately a 15% tax, including those making over $110k per year (I believe the 2009 rate). This would bring equity to the system. Then there’s no need to raise imcome taxes, which would probably be a harder sell than making FICA/OASDI equitable. Also, I say change the capital gains, since again this would resonate more with working people who pay more taxes per percentage of their income than the investment class.
TR, wire seats in the theater with sensors. When a cell phone goes off, a strong electrical shock is administered..
Hi gang! Humpdays with Hal!
It’s okay, Momma, you can still love “Moon River”, it was written by the great Henry Mancini. I always loathed Andy Williams as one of those Pat Boone-types who would white-ify R&B hits for the mainstream Top 40. Ugh.
#245 k to the g: ” Maybe doctor governor chairman Howard Dean could give the Dems some of those testicular infusions we heard about.”
I’m having thoughts about the culture of RW America, fueled by this Andy Williams quote. The right wingers are the apple-pie, Glen Miller people, the ones who always bought the propaganda B. S. that got us through the 20th Century. The rest of us are the ones who had the awakening that began with the Beats in the 50s, and led to all the liberation movements of the 60s and 70s. They are just the kernels that never popped in the bottom of the popcorn bowl.
That’s not as profound as it seemed to me when I first thought of it, but the point is, the RW loonie way of seeing things is not from nowhere, it’s the traditional, toxic American worldview reaching its modern logical conclusion.
Those poor, deluded fools.
Can’t wait for Andy Williams War on Christmas Show this year. Will Claudine Longet be there? She’s FRENCH
282
Will she be accidentally shot again?
and again?
and again?
C’mon guys. Let’s sparta so I can go to lunch.
I think Claudine did the shooting
#276 Django, Yes, you’re correct about Polanski, he had already entered a guilty plea and spent some time in the psych facility for evaluation for his sentencing report. The sentencing recommendation by the prosecutor was for probation, not jail time, but the judge was not bound by that (although they usually do follow the recommendaiton) and Polanski claimed he’d gotten an inside tip that the judge was going to toss him in jail for a lengthy time and/or deport him.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polanski#Charges_and_guilty_plea
I kinda like that Claudine Longet folk rock alb from the early 70s. ANybody else ever hear that?
She had a whispy little mouse voice, but it was put to pretty good use on some of those tracks…
I agree with Hal that Ken Lay isn’t dead. Rich old criminals go to Aspen and “die” for some reason. Prison is for poor people, doncha know.
288 — yeah; Hadn’t really thought about it, but that makes sense.
287. I liked her style. I remember her singing Christmas songs under a streetlight and falling snow with her hands in a fur muff.
Unless Polanski’s victim reconciled with him, reached a settlement and forgave him, she would have been unable to recover from the trauma of childhood rape to live a normal life. Her statements should be viewed in that light.
Her choices for her own emotional health should have absolutely no bearing on Polanski’s legal consequences.
As awful as what Polanski suffered, losing family in the Holocaust and his wife and unborn child to the Manson Family, that does not shield him from the consequences of raping a child.
Avoiding extradition while spending 30 years as a celebrated filmmaker and living the good life in Europe was not “punishment”.
OK, I get it. You don’t want me to sparta.
Have fun, you guys fight over it.
have a great day all, see ya tomorry.
#278, the Medicare portion is not capped. So nothing to argue about there.
Again, you’re advocating hijacking SS contributions to non-SS programs. The cap does create equality in the system – wages above the cap do not receive benefits above the cap either. Your benefits are tied to your contributions – up to the cap. Similarly, while investment income is not taxes at all, it also does not count toward benefits.
The claim that the cap creates inequality or is regressive is a falsehood. Pure and simple. The premise of OASDI is that what you get out is tied to what you put in – that is a covenant between the worker and the plan. It is not a general tax on general incomes, it is a wage insurance plan paid for by premium contributions on wages.
From a standpoint of revenue generation for our favorite programs, raising income tax rates on incomes above $110k by 12.4 points generates approximately the same revenue on approximately the same people, but does not break the basic premise that FICA-OASDI contributions are solely for Social Security disbursements.
Frankly, I am as disgusted when liberals try to manipulate Social Security as conservatives. I have no objection to raising taxes on these same earners by that amount. But do it the honest way – by raising income taxes. Do not divert FICA contributions to non-FICA programs.
Have the political courage to argue for higher income tax rates on top earners – do not try to sneak in a tax on the back of Social Security contributions.
Oh, and the premise that the public option needs funding is false. The public option is self-funding through its own premiums. The only thing that needs funding is the low-income subsidies.
Thanks Juliet. What did we do before Wiki?
Have a good ‘un, Paul! Thanks again for the birthday wishes
i feel skyhawk hovering
Six free minutes of what, exactly?
Sparta!
#295 happy birthday, Madduane.
SCHPHAAHHHTHAA!!!
Birthday Sparta. nice.
Hahahahaaaa!!! Juicy wet sparta wins!
Ooo so close. Happy Sparta Amy!
Thanks for the birfdy wishes, Amy!
#291 Leonard, good points, although she did say the continued publicity was interfering with her ability to live her present life. On the other hand, the justice system has an interest in maintaining its integrity by forcing people to deal with stuff promptly.
Thanks, Hal, for bringing up the tax-exempt status of these “churches” that are claiming Sec. 501 (c) (3) status — they’re effectively subsidized by us by not having to pay taxes on their income while engaging in all these political activities
Sparta?
Congrats on your Spartatude, madduane!
#303 No no, it was Madduane’s Sparta. At least on my screen, Madduane has post 300.
I’m lusting after the R. Crumb illustrated Book of Genesis that just came out…
Happy Sparta-birthday Madduane! A good omen for you.
I loved the Eddie Izzard riff on the Great Flood — “What about ducks?”
309 – Love that Crumb. Did you see the documentary on him?
311 — Yeah, I did see that. It was awesome.
Yii.. stop to do the sudoku and you guys sparta’d..
Congrats Duana, I yield to thee, and reveal my Inner Self ™
I Keep hearing that “coffee” sound effect in that commercial on the liveblog as a bong hit.
Thanky, Ivan!
The documentary on Robert Crumb was quite good.. I think his whole family was screwed up, because of his father. His brother eventually committed suicide, as I recall.
And the part with the cartoonist losing his mind and finally drawing volumes of balloons with quotes (or was it apostrophes) was downright chilling.
Interesting texturing as well.
#278, it comes down to this:
Does one consider OASDI to be a regressive component of the tax code, or a wage insurance premium separate entirely from general revenue streams?
I clearly (and vehemently) consider it the latter.
I’m with you on taxing high-income earners. I’m with you on the amount. I’m totally against you on how to do it. Maybe it’s semantics, but IMO all the talk about “fixing SS by removing the cap” and other such promist twiddling on our side has fed every bit as much into the false meme that SS won’t be around for us as Republican shenanigans.
293: Somtimes a paradigm shift is needed in order to make sea changes. I think a pragmatic approach is necessary here to affect change. Arguing for such a high increase in income tax just won’t fly. Modifying the existing methods of allocating funds from FICA/OASDI and the capital gains tax are such a paradigm shift. But, I think they are changes the public would support. I have heard other respected people, such as George Soros, support such plans. I don’t think it is either dishonest, or cowardly, just more pragmatic.
The simple fact about Repubs is that when a buck is involved, they favor the buck.
Hey everyone, the Miss America Pageant has invited Rush Limbaugh to be a judge. Might I suggest emails to them at info@MissAmerica.org to suggest that is a very un-American kind of person to have appear (never mind the piggy nature of the pageant).
Hal and Mama are hot together. Either there’s going to be a birthday present soon or Steph is going to spin like crazy at the gym. Just sayin.
320 — aww, he’ll just vote for whoever reminds him most of a young Dominican boy.
320: let’s ask them to have Rush Limbaugh in a swim suit..
The Miss America Pageant is such bullshit anyway.
317: Trust me. I do believe we need to protect SS, as the RWs have shown as much disdain for it as medicare. If it weren’t for the stock market crashing, they’d probably still be pushing for privatizing a portion of it, which I totally oppose. BTW – I’m trying to address the “How do we pay for it crowd.” Personally, changes in captial gains would be more palatable to me than changes to FICA, etc.
I personally would’ve liked Michelle to make the pitch, but I have no problem with Barack doing so.
Steph and Hal – cougar attacks wolf
Hey, we like our presidents stupid and lazy like us
From what I understand, our Prez will only be on the ground in Denmark for 3 hours. Heckuva European vacation for the staff!
#320 Now I have to get that image out of my mind. Sure it is b.s. but it is widely watched and promotes itself as somehow “American,” so I am suggesting we call them on having invited a judge who wants the president to fail. It’s called invading their territory.
#318, but you’re ignoring the law of unintended consequences, and the long view. Once you dilute SS by paying for other programs explicitly on its back, at what point does it simply become another gubmint program to be cut or funding allocations reshuffled at will?
Right now, SS takes money in, it pays money out, and any surplus is stored in Treasuries, any deficit paid for by redeeming Treasuries. It is perfect in its simplicity and honesty. It is of workers, for workers. The investment class contributes nothing to it, it gets nothing from it.
Once you violate that covenant, who’s to say that some future Republican administration and Congress won’t just, say, divert FICA revenues to the DoD? It’s just another general revenue stream at that point, after all.
Bye all…
Bye all!
Sorry I meant #323 (Limbaugh in speedo – gasp!)
The Repubs pretty well crapped their nest on privatizing SS, thanks to illustrious GW and Company ™ and their massively greedy attempts to pull it off. And if there is any good thing which was a product of the big stock market hit, it might be a further unlikelihood of privatized SS..
Buh bye, Bloggonists!
Hasta manana, bananas!
Bye everyone! Gotta check out that R Crumb film. Thanks all!
Bye, gang!
I feel loved!
♥
Have a great day, I’ll see yas again soon!
Buh Bye, Bloggoes!!!
Bye PeterW – Love you man!
330: Good point, I’ll think on it.
#338, you too, have a good one!