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LiveBlog for Friday, September 4, 2009

sparksHey everyone! Steph and the Mooks are on vacation this week, but Hal Sparks is filling in for us. Please be good to him!

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202 Responses to “LiveBlog for Friday, September 4, 2009”

  1. Katie says:

    I know this is not what the LiveBlog is for, but I can’t help it!
    This week has been great, sad to see it end (no offense to Stephanie of course!). Thanks Hal!
    (First comment of the day, yay!)

  2. trojanrabbit says:

    Gooood morning Katie. Goood morning all.

    Don’t understand your first line, there’s nothing keeping us from posting stuff after/before the show, and sometimes what we post isn’t even related to the show (myself being one of the prime violators, and just to show you – here goes)

    Another dead day at work, I’m the only tech here and there really isn’t much to do except put the programmer’s cap on and go hide. I’m a couple days behind in my listening because I’m trying to convince my new iPod to download the shows properly (and at LEAST put them in the proper order), whoever heard of listening to hour 3 first? But I did find out it does properly download the Countdown and Rachel Maddow shows :D . That frees up one of the TiVos and makes the wife happier.

  3. trojanrabbit says:

    What, you guys all wore out from Spartaficating yesterday?

  4. my pooer's dad says:

    Morning trojanrabbit! I’m wore out from trying to find the spa Steph is at – apparently, she’s not at any of the spas in Missouri. Got to leave early today. Dropping off an application for a sub-teaching/coaching gig – wife is tired of me hanging around the house in my underwear and 5-days growth of beard.

  5. trojanrabbit says:

    4. Maybe if you looked at the tile ads to the right you might find the spa she’s at (or was at). ;)

  6. trojanrabbit says:

    Goood morning Danielle.

  7. shāf says:

    Good morning, everyone! My cold has finally gotten the better of me, I’m taking a sick day off. The good news, 10 hours of sleep.

  8. my pooer's dad says:

    Top of the morning to you, Danielle.

  9. my pooer's dad says:

    Sleep, Shaf, sleep.

  10. trojanrabbit says:

    10
    What he said. Sleep so you can enjoy the weekend.

  11. Shaf, I stand by the philosphy “You know you’re getting old when you start coming into work talking about sleep like its sex… “Ohhhhh, I actually slept for 7 hours last night…”"

  12. my pooer's dad says:

    Thanks, Hal! It’s been fun this week.

  13. my pooer's dad says:

    13: Yes, at my age sleeping with a woman has a whole other meaning than when I was younger.

  14. Obamarules says:

    What about all the magnetic fields generated from wireless? Don’ they screw up radio signals?

  15. my pooer's dad says:

    16: Or, are there any health risks?

  16. my pooer's dad says:

    Great, now angry white men have something else to be pissed off about.

  17. Hal- thank you for clarifying that point and not letting the BS argument stand!

  18. Obamarules says:

    #17 Isn’t it the magnetic fields around those huge electricity lines that people are worried about causing brain cancer in kids?

    http://www.midtod.com/9603/voltage.phtml

  19. Good morning, Star Shines.

    Nowadays, sleeping with a woman really means sleeping with a woman.

  20. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    Good morning, gang! Long, long week at work, and next week promises to be another doozy. :-(

    Preach it, Hal!

  21. my pooer's dad says:

    20: Exactly.

  22. trojanrabbit says:

    16. Not so much the magnetic fields. But the electric fields can be a problem. No one REALLY knows what the effect of people holding little microwave generators (cellphones) to their head for decades is going to be.

  23. trojanrabbit says:

    20
    Yes magnetic fields are more associated with low frequency (power line) signals. Radio signals are more electric fields.

    /typed as I’m working on new test software for a magnetic field immunity test bay. We test patient monitors for effects at the line frequencies (50 and 60Hz). Any patient signals (ECG) are very small voltage-wise and are easily influenced by any type of fields.

  24. Hal, it isn’t fair to talk about stuff Momma wouldn’t understand, much less be able to pronounce

  25. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    Mornin’ blog!

  26. flombaye says:

    1: hi katie. sounds like EXACTLY what the live blog is for, thoe you were way too harsh on sarah palin.

  27. shāf says:

    #13 Danielle, I only ‘brag’ about the sleep because I really, really needed it. I pushed myself to make it to work this week. Since I only have a couple of meetings today, I said “screw it, I’m taking a sick day”.

    BTW, I love the discussion (now and yesterday) about Tesla. I used to demonstrate a Tesla coil at COSI (the science and industry museum) in Columbus. Tesla unfortunately was eclipsed in the public mind by Edison. He deserves a lot more fame and study in schools.

  28. flombaye says:

    5: good point. the best part of the pro-flowers ad was always about the referral box. “be sure to enter stephanie !”

  29. flombaye says:

    13: “…“You know you’re getting old when you start coming into work talking about sleep like its sex……” – - – hmmm… “it happened to me on top of the kitchen counter” …. “five hours on the pool table again” – yep, that works.

  30. trojanrabbit says:

    26.
    What she doesn’t know (while she’s away) won’t hurt her.

  31. flombaye says:

    16: mostly, they harsh on some people’s senses. they can give water-witches severe pain.

  32. trojanrabbit says:

    29
    I’d definitely want a Tesla car.

  33. 29… Shaf, if you got good sleep, I think that’s worth braggin about.. :) You deserve it! Make sure to rest up and feel all better…

    And BTW, really cool that you used the Tesla Coil… I’m very impressed by both you and TR this morning! :)

  34. wow Flom…. 5 hours? Really? wow…

  35. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    Wireless technology, hmm…. I like to bore people to tears with an article I read about execution by electric chair in a New York law journal years ago. Basically, Thomas Edison wanted power to go DC (picture an air conditioner-sized battery/generator behind your house) and his arch-enemy Charles Westinghouse promoted AC. Edison convinced the legal system to switch from execution by hanging (often went wrong, required knot-tying skilz) and firing squad (messy) to the electric chair.

    At the time executions were major public spectacles, so Edison figured that once people saw how horrible death by AC electricity was, they would refuse to have such unsafe technology in their homes. His plan backfired because the executions were so grisly they were shielded from the public (our current system). Oops. And that’s why we have a stupid system of overhead wires, power outages in ice storms, and kids getting electrocuted after stepping in puddles with live downed power lines after thunderstorms. Just sayin’ :evil:

  36. my pooer's dad says:

    26: Maybe it’ll be able to power a portable box wine cooler.

  37. flombaye says:

    20 / 25: definitely legit assessment of the situation on the carcinogenicity of transformers (more sensitive people can even walk around and point to telephone pole transformers while blindfolded) – thoe this statement is suspect: “”Never before has there been this much epidemiological evidence of the carcinogenicity of any agent,” says Brodeur, “and that agent declared to be benign.” – i suppose that may be accurate, on the basis that nobody has actually come forward and described the bovine milk protein casein as “benign”.

  38. flombaye says:

    32: steph has the hair up and the glasses on, lurking away, covering the screen with red marks, laffing at our grades.

  39. flombaye says:

    36: people are not usually impressed about that part; usually what gets them is that i chose to use the corner pocket.

  40. Does anyone else find these “Connections Academy” commercials worrisome? I mean, kids get much more from school than education. They need social skills, social networks, and coping skills (think dealing with being made fun of, making a bad grade, or being let down by a crush).

    I think there are definately good examples of home schooling, but I fear other public schools (as this one claims to be) moving to the internet…

    thoughts?

  41. trojanrabbit says:

    Of course when talking about large magnetic fields (such as those found in an MR scanner, there is a limit as to how much of a static field one can take before strange effects happen (sensations such as tingling or seeing spots). In general the larger the field the better the resolution of the image.

    Typical MR is about 1.5 Tesla (will suck an oxygen tank out of your hand).

  42. flombaye says:

    37: “….and kids getting electrocuted after stepping in puddles with live downed power lines after thunderstorms. Just sayin’ ” – well, what are KBR contractors SUPPOSED to do for money ? get jobs ?

  43. trojanrabbit says:

    40.

    well, if that’s the case

    * waves in whatever direction Stephanie is in *

  44. my pooer's dad says:

    It seems to me, what Hal is talking about is mostly the delivery system. Our energy policy needs a multi-pronged approach that uses the natural features of the location to develop power: NW states – themal, Florida -gulf stream ocean currents, plains states – wind power, etc. I’m not sure I understand how the delivery system matters much. You engineer types please help me understand.

  45. flombaye says:

    43: why was the old man’s oxygen tank in your hand in the first place ? you tease a guy like this for kicks ? – why cant you just “midnite express” his soles like a normal person ?

  46. shāf says:

    Yes, the U.S. is still a leader in basic research. But, it’s been surpassed in applied technology. That’s where the jobs are created.

  47. my pooer's dad says:

    41: That could explain the blue chalk on inappropriate parts of your body.

  48. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    If for no other reason, we need to get off our addiction to oil because of this disgrace:

    Times of London: Lockerbie Bomber ‘Set Free for Oil’
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/29/times-of-london-lockerbie_n_272075.html

    There are claims the guy’s “terminal cancer” was trumped up and the docs paid off. Either way it’s disgusting.

  49. flombaye says:

    46: kansas: tornado mills — texas: boredom dynamos — m c hammerville: pantaloon induction cells

  50. flombaye says:

    49: why YES ! YES ! – THAT’S how it got there. yeah. i’ve never even MET glenn beck.

  51. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    #44 flombaye, Touché!

  52. flombaye says:

    50: it is as stephanie says; the oil party needs adult supervision.
    anybody see the outfit that moreandmore godawfully was wearing ?

  53. flombaye says:

    53: a post entirely in french ? what are you, a marxist black communist nazi ?

  54. flombaye says:

    non-oil focused ? – you mean florence henderson wont be the ambassador to grease ?

  55. flombaye says:

    sandal-low. he sounds well grounded and well-heeled. did he arrive in a toe truck ?

  56. trojanrabbit says:

    Of course I forgot to mention that while you’re in that MR scanner you’re also getting whacked with up to 15,000 watts of RF.

  57. flombaye says:

    58: there’s consensus that it’s deeply sickening. – operation rainbow, thoe mostly successful at making a ship invisible, was found impractical because of the pukagenic power of EMFs

  58. my pooer's dad says:

    42: There are home schooler groups that meetup for the social aspects they otherwise miss. As and educator, I think the anecdotal evidence of success of home schooling points to the benefits of having smaller classes and more one-on-one opportunities for students with their teachers.

  59. flombaye says:

    60: what’s worse about home-schooling, the part about having your older sister for a prom date, or the compromising photos afterward ?

  60. trojanrabbit says:

    61
    Could be worse if your family pet is involved.

  61. spiffyhussein says:

    Hi everyone!

    #42—we don’t get that commercial down here. I just googled it.

  62. flombaye says:

    62: well, hal DID just mention horse power ….

  63. flombaye says:

    63: how commercial DO you get ?

  64. Derrick says:

    Bush Jr. was focusing on children’s reading during 9/11, by reading “My Pet Goat”, with a black kid in his lap, gasp, oh my God! Right as 9/11 was unfolding, but you didn’t hear the right wing wackos say anything, did you?

  65. Republicans demand equal time to rebut President Obama’s address to School Students wherein he will stress the importance of studying, working hard, earning good grades and graduating.

    I can just imagine how the rebuttal will sound coming from a party that distains education, deplores independent cognitive reasoning and considers all intellectuals to be commies:

    “…go play with your Nintendo’s and X-boxes. A College Education is over rated. Wouldn’t you rather have a fun job like Joe the Plumber?”

    .

  66. I’m all for the optimistic talk about energy; in principle I agree. However, I’m also an electronic engineer with a research option, which means I not only studied transistors and Maxwell’s equations but also electron ballistics and quantum physics. I’m particularly aware of the laws of conservation of matter and energy, and the fact that all fields we are aware of are conservative. That is energy doesn’t get created out of nothing. Something will have to power it all.

    And as much as I have a lot of disdain for internal combustion power, I’m aware that petroleum has a very high practical energy density, and is reasonably inexpensive. It’s not going to disappear overnight.

    Tesla’s work hasn’t been suppressed, not really. True, Edison was an arch rival and ruthless competitor who tried to deflect from anything he didn’t invent. At the same time, a cryogenic high voltage DC power line represents a possibility for much more efficient transmission of large amounts of electric power.

    If you pursue a degree in electrical engineering at a good college, you’ll have courses in electromagnetics and electrical power and machinery. These explain and quantify all the effects being spouted about today.

    And, in spite of what people would say, when wireless energy transmission occurs, they are easy ways to meter and charge for it.

    I’m not trying to harsh any techie buzzes, I’m just talking about reality.

    Reality is that a large number of smaller incremental changes can yield huge benefits. Having every car in the country getting another mile or two per gallon would save a large amount of money and oil.

  67. my pooer's dad says:

    68: They’ll probably tout NCLB, vouchers, and getting rid of the influence of teacher’s unions.

  68. flombaye says:

    66: wonderful synchronicity: literally just yesterday, i cott up in my reading stacks, to this “doonesbury: comic from 1993 nov 20: [speaker at podium reading statement]: “….late last nite, this feature entered into an agreement with WORKING FOR THE AMERICAN DREAM, a group dedicated to safeguarding the image of professor michael r milken. in return for cash and an equity position in a future milken project, this feature hereby promises to never again ridicule professor milken or portray him in an unflattering light” [speaker addresses staff]: “um, so how DO we portray…” [staff abruptly answers]: “psst – cue milken hugging poor black teens !”

  69. On the latest fears and demands about President Obama speaking to students – I’m always wondering just what the next Republican nut issue will be. This is it – fear of a n*gger “President” (who isn’t really an American citizen by birth) indoctrinating school children, no doubt into the principles of marxism (or leninism perhaps!), perhaps evolution or some other Godless issue, maybe SEX education (how to actually have sex, starting with Masturbation 101), etc.

    These right wingers make my ass tired. And when my ass is tired, I’m completely exhausted.

  70. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    #44 flombaye, Espece de salaud! Fous-moi la paix!

    It’s a little slow on the blog today, so I’ll post a link to Little Kuriboh’s “Yu-Gi-Oh The Abridged Series” – think Monty Python meets Adult Swim with a dollop of MST3K–completely demented, often profane, and weirdly addictive. Super special awesome!

    One of the characters is a Hulk Hogan wannabe named Bandit Keith, whose trademark phrase is “In AMERICA!”. Some favorite quotes:

    Best of Bandit Keith – 2 min version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiyH4QS8nCk

    At 30 secs “I don’t understand a word you just said. Try speaking American, it’s the only language I understand!”

    1:52 min: “You’re not American! You’re not even wearing a flag on your head!”

    Bandit Keith – 6 min version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Olf-ObGcNt8

    At 5min 30 sec: “There is a voice in my head, and it’s French– the exact opposite of American!”

    Yu-Gi-Oh the Abridged Series Episode 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox1JUyYYs5c&feature=PlayList&p=5055DB392B608E68&index=0

  71. spiffyhussein says:

    #65—I hear the local KTLK station commercials a lot, especially the one about how none of us are going to get our station promised ponies!

    I’m bitter I tell ya….very bitter about that. Obama’s not giving us Medicare for All, no ponies from KTLK….what can possibly make my life worth living now?

    I know. It’s that Ovation Cell Therapy for hair that Steph advertises.

  72. flombaye says:

    68: dukes of hazzard paint job on the pinto: 180 dollars.
    22 caliber hollow points for taking down serious grizzley squirrels: 5 dollars.
    poster-sized prints of cousin audrey … i mean ….stepmother in denim cutoffs 35 dollars

    Republicans demand equal time to rebut President Obama’s address to School Students wherein he will stress the importance of studying, working hard, earning good grades and graduating.

    priceless

  73. my pooer's dad says:

    The buzz here is how he’s going to “indoctrinate” the students with his socialist agenda. God, I’m so tired of this crap!

  74. spiffyhussein says:

    66—I’m cynical. I do wonder why Obama is making a point of talking to the kids. I wonder about that….

  75. flombaye says:

    correction: post 71 was intended to address post 66 — and hal just unleashed a clue. if obama is being styled a sort of “steve jobs” president… maybe what went wrong was that dubya was taking advise from some hidden figure named “steve unemployment”.

  76. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    #69 Ivan, Thanks for the info!

    “…a cryogenic high voltage DC power line represents a possibility for much more efficient transmission of large amounts of electric power.” Edison would be on the fainting couch! But at least we’re TALKING about this stuff.

    A few years ago when NYC had that big power outage, the Condé Nast building that houses the New Yorker magazine had plenty of power because they had several tractor-trailer-sized hydroelectric generators on their roof. The publisher wrote an op-ed stating that to get the permits from the city they had to agree to turn off their power during an outage, ostensibly to prevent a “surge” but really to avoid the bad press for the power company. So, lights out. :-(

  77. spiffyhussein says:

    #74—LOL. I can hear the Republican rebuttal now:

    “Kids, education is important, but it’s more important to be ready at all times to defend the country you love. So after high school we will be praying you will join the Armed Forces. It’s a great way to get money for college if you survive, if you come back with all of your brain, and if you don’t return too depressed.

    So stay in school kids! Your country needs high school graduates for its armies!”

  78. Ethanol is a poor choice for a “homegrown” fuel. It takes 4 gallons of petroleum energy to grow 5 gallons of ethanol. And ethanol is a great fuel for F1 cars and dragsters, but not necessarily for commuter cars.

    What we truly NEED to do is find a good way to build large electric power plants, running off coal, which reclaim and not emit carbon dioxide. It’s possible, costs something more, technically less efficient. But the country has plenty of coal for the next century or so.

    And, as I said, there won’t be just one technology which will save our energy solution, in a single giant step function. It has to be dealt with on many fronts.

  79. flombaye says:

    72: they just dont like the word “masturbation” – seems okay as long as you call it “philosophy”. – rammed ass and deepak chopra are doing quite well.

  80. spiffyhussein says:

    77—I think kids need local mentors and local role models.

    I guess Obama is offering to be a non-local, unapproachable, super-famous role model but I think kids have plenty of those. However, in the African American media world there is a shortage of highly visible African American nerd types like Obama. So those are some shoes he can fill.

  81. Remember, we lost a perfectly good Surgeon General because she said we should teach kids about masturbation and encourage it instead of sex, to deal with puberty’s pubic urges..

  82. spiffyhussein says:

    80—-Coal? How about wind in some areas of the country and sun in others?

    Then there is natural gas—another neglected resource we have right here. We’ve been so abused and scammed by Big Oil. Basterds.

  83. flombaye says:

    82: what is a “role model” anyway. – has there just been nobody explaining it to me correctly, or do some of us lack the baic hardware to relate to the very concept ?

  84. 77 / 82- I think it is completely appropriate for the president, regardless of party, to address school children. They need to see that the president is a real person, like them, and that anything is possible…

  85. spiffyhussein says:

    85—It’s someone you admire and look up to for what they have done with their lives. You look at them and say, “If that schmo can do it maybe I can too. “

  86. flombaye says:

    84: the problem is that once you’ve witnessed glenn beck at the chalkboard, you’ve already experienced peak wind.

  87. my pooer's dad says:

    83: No problem getting the kids to do their homework there.

  88. 84: Spiffy, so true – solving the energy problems will not be accomplished by any single technology, rather the clever application of multiple ones.

  89. spiffyhussein says:

    #86—If he’s on TV he’s not real. Sorry. He’s real, but he’s not at the door is he?

    However, given a choice between Sponge Bob and the Pres., I’d tell my kids to watch the Pres.

  90. flombaye says:

    87: ah, you mean like dillinger.

  91. spiffyhussein says:

    90—–I’m always amazed when I find out that homes in our most northern states are not being heated with natural gas. That’s a waste of what we’ve got.

  92. flombaye says:

    89: but grandma always offered to help with my homework any time at all. pretty awkward situation for my prom date, actually.

  93. spiffyhussein says:

    92—tragically, yes. Fifty Cent—who the hell is that guy and why would we let any of our children buy his music or go see his movies?

  94. flombaye says:

    90: excellent idea – harnessing energy from multiples. – wonder if stehy and mark sanford have hooked up yet to revolutionize the argentine energy market.

  95. spiffyhussein says:

    83—-That’s a doctor for ya….she thought it was just a word and a normal, human behavior. Science! Science has brought us nothin’ but trouble I tell ya!

  96. Hasta luego, Amigos!

    I have to go to doctor now.

    Have a great weekend, don’t you ever change a thing!

    L.

  97. Derrick says:

    I we left it all up to Republicants, there wouldn’t be any Rock N Roll or Rap music.

  98. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    Those school districts should have to give back any federal money they receive if they show such disrespect to the office of President, if not the man. Unbelievable.

    Of course, you know why they don’t want their l’il darlin’s to see President Obama speak– they’re afraid if the kiddies see an intelligent, well-spoken black man present his views on important issues of the day, they won’t believe he’s a Muslim Fascist Terra-ist any more.

  99. flombaye says:

    91: now there’s a pretty revealing difference between shrub and obama: if you found out that obama had a pet snail named “gary”, it would grab your attention and seem rather odd.

  100. spiffyhussein says:

    #88—Keith Olberman was so funny in making fun of Beck yesterday.

    I didn’t realize beck is now hooking his followers into symbolism now. What a cult making dipwad.

  101. my pooer's dad says:

    Bye, bloggoes. gotta go see a man about a job. I hope everyone has a pleasant and restful holiday weekend.

  102. spiffyhussein says:

    99—-I don’t like any Rap of Hip Hop that denigrates women or glorifies racism or violence.

    That’s most of Rap and Hip Hop isn’t it?

    I don’t know what Republicans like in music.

  103. flombaye says:

    102: beck — beck hanson — hanson — androgynous musician — young mick jagger — hmmm “mick” racial slur. so glenn beck is a racist.

  104. jram says:

    he’s talkin ’bout my generation

  105. Kurt says:

    I am skeptical of the breakthrough of wireless electricity. The math doesn’t work for any real advantage. It can only work on a quarter wavelength of the frequency, and then, only at an efficiency of about 45%.
    To really make a diffference on the electricity front, we need to redesign and rebuild our electrical grid. We are too dependent on huge generators and long runs of high tension lines. These are risky in terms of major outages and potential terrorist threats.
    Instead we need to create local electrical generators that don’t waste over long runs of lines. This would also have a serious economic stimulus effect, as well. The cost would be a couple of trillion dollars but the return would be much greater in energy savings and as an economic multiplier.

  106. flombaye says:

    104: purity rap was so much better

    “get thai’d. you’re talkin to a tourist
    whose every move is among the purest.
    i get my kicks above the waistline, sunshine”

  107. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    #108 Kurt, Spot on.

  108. Wow… I’m way too tired to keep up with you guys today… every time I refresh you have added sooooo many posts…

  109. spiffyhussein says:

    100—That is true. But when I was a kid in school and Robert Kennedy was running for President, I remember some of my classmates hated him and called him a hippy because their parents did.

    Obama speaking to the kids will not change those minds. Parents have ultimate control over their children in many cases. In many households dissent from the kids, even when they become teens, is not allowed. Not one bit.

    That is part of why so many teens get into trouble. They can’t talk to their parents about their own ideas and opinions. It’s not allowed.

  110. jram says:

    go photovotaic…get a solar water heater…

  111. flombaye says:

    111: it is definitely luddite to admit somebody is too hip for you, but to hate that person anyway. sounds like there’s always been a market for “start over” therapy.

  112. shāf says:

    #107 Kurt, your comments reminded me of something I saw a while back about neighborhood power generation. I googled and found this:

    http://www.superstructgame.net/SuperstructView/87

    Very interesting.

  113. shāf says:

    #114 …and the following Daily Kos diary:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/2/21/171312/340

    about the The Neighborhood Power Act of 2007.

  114. flombaye says:

    111: here too. is a big clue as to why the feeble weebles who hibernated calmly thru all the dubyashines of 8 years of regression are into blind panic over the white guy with a black dad: i’ve heard of a general condition of having antipathy for “authority figures”. – sounds suspect, because “authority figure” is subject to some very loose definitions, but many conditions are after all, spectral…. and without doubt, the appeal of dubya was exclusively to the sub-juvenile impulses to throw off the burdensome mantle of adult-imposed responsibilities. obama, by contrast, is blatantly in direct alliance with that enemy.

  115. unhinged says:

    Wireless power revolution…then we all die?

    We need to demand serious studies on the safety and health effects before allowing wireless power transmission on a wide scale. There are already a lot of concerns without conclusive answers about the increased risk of things like leukemia, brain cancer, miscarriage, and suicide in people living near power lines. Before we trust any corporation to start transmitting a new type of electromagnetic radiation through the air, we need to know what it will do to our bodies.

  116. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    Hal’s doing a great job of respectfully keeping his feet to the fire– the choices aren’t only “we had a big oopsie” or “the government evilly conspired to pull off 911″. That is a false choice. It’s entirely reasonable to investigate whether Cheney and/or other neo-cons deliberately exploited a chaotically non-cooperative sprawling government to allow an incident that might outrage the public enough to start a little war. Think Lusitania, Gulf of Tonkin…

  117. Scott says:

    Go Hal go!

    This guy in an apologist for the Neocons/Bush Crime Family.

    BTW, what about the FBI field agents that warned their bosses about the terrorists who were in flying schools and were ignored?

  118. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    Unlikely they could have been stopped?? People, I grew up under SAC, Strategic AIr Command, there have been planes in the air 24/7 for decades to instantly respond to the Commie menace. Rent Top Gun, it accurately portrays how the MiG pilots (and ours) would deliberately bust airspace restrictions to gauge how fast the opponent’s air response is.

    Military jets are stationed all over the Eastern seabord, and pilots on September 11 rebelled against orders to “stand down”. That’s not a “gosh, once they were in the country there was nothing we could do about it” situation. Fer chrissakes, a handful of civilians with no training acting on the spur of the moment swarming the cockpit on Flight 77 in Pennsylvania were more effective in stopping their plane, and sacrificed their lives to save others.

  119. Amy Outside of DC says:

    Personally, I’m amused by those who kept saying “History will show that Bush was a good president.” So far, all we’ve gotten is people from the admistration (like Tom Ridge and Scotty McClellan) telling us that all those horrible things we suspected GWB of doing, were in fact done. So far history has just proved GWB to be AWFUL. Keep it up, history.

  120. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Good morning all the usual suspects, nice readin’ you.

    #73: Oh well, the fart jokes will be back on Monday. Is it Monday yet!?

  121. shāf says:

    #118 Good point, Juliet. How the Bush Administration chose to respond to 9/11 is as important to our historical understanding of the event itself.

  122. jram says:

    here is an idiot for you:

    My older daughter is a history teacher in middle school. I am NOT a young mom. I am also conservative.

    I do NOT want my first grader to watch the president’s speech. She is young, impressionable, vulnerable. She will learn about the government and how it (should) work as she grows, just as my older children have.

    Not agreeing with his politics has little to do with the fact that I don’t think that we should be talking to very young children (in a captive) school environment about public service. Especially, when we have a president who has already made it clear that mandatory voluntary service and a civilian defense corp are part of his agenda. This sends the message that the schools, parents and everyone SUPPORTS this agenda.

  123. Scott says:

    History has a liberal bias. :D

  124. shāf says:

    Winger Alert (on the phone)

  125. Amy Outside of DC says:

    Oh Hal, stop pointing out how Clinton caught the WTC attackers and GWB didn’t. The right wing doesn’t like to be reminded of reality.

  126. spiffyhussein says:

    116—That indeed might have been part of his election. However he also didn’t have much running against him who could appeal to the youth either. Edwards did some. He looked very young and talked idealistically. However, when his wife’s cancer came out of remission mid-campaign all of a sudden his personal life revealed his true age. There he was with a middle-aged sick wife and some adult kids. That guy’s not young at all!

    Youth never gets ill and they hardly ever know any sick people. That’s why I hardly ever see young people out at the health care rallies and other health care events I’ve attended.

  127. jram says:

    where is my tin foil hat?

  128. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #128 Those must be the people who are “young and healthy and so they refuse health insurance” the RW keeps mentioning.

  129. Amy Outside of DC says:

    Deficite spending aka Reaganomics?

  130. spiffyhussein says:

    I agree. Long term studies needed. Will be very hard to study ’cause how are you going to isolate someone as they are living in a wireless technology? They might get cancer from drinking 15 diet sodas a day.

  131. jram says:

    oh no!!! facts!!! ahhhhh!!! my ears are bleeding

  132. shāf says:

    “A dead guy can’t flip a handburger.” Good one, Hal! :lol:

  133. shāf says:

    hamburger (sorry)

  134. One of terrible things Bush inherited from Clinton: A Budget Surplus..

  135. Amy Outside of DC says:

    I will give credit to the local right wing nut jobs. This morning they called up RW radio and said they wouldn’t have a problem with Reagan or Bush addressing school children, but no Obama. They’ll freely admit it has nothign to do with kids or captive audience, the only reason they’re against it is because Obama is for it.

  136. Skyhawk says:

    Morning mookies!

  137. jram says:

    some more idiocy:

    That sounds exactly like something Hitler or Saddam Hussein would do!

    YOU PEOPLE BETTER WAKE UP! We don’t have an average person sitting in our White House…..he has his set of beliefs and they are nothing like the average Americans. You’ve had the wool pulled over your eyes for too long if you don’t SEE it!

    He’s EVERYTHING we were warned about!!! He’s radical, he’s a Marxist, he’s an idealog and he wants to change America to what HE THINKS it SHOULD BE and it’s nothing that we associate with being American.

    You people who want to keep on believing he’s just a NICE MAN trying to do his job…..go ahead….but don’t come crying when you wonder what happened to all those Rights and Freedoms you were used to living with are GONE and your children are SLAVES to a Socialist GOVERNMENT!!!!!!!

    WAKE UP IF YOU LOVE YOU CHILDREN.

  138. spiffyhussein says:

    130—-I have two young adult kids. They both get insurance from their work but they hardly ever need it. They get a cold or a bad sore throat once a year.

    They don’t like their co-pays and their premiums, but since they have never had to really use their insurance and be jacked around by the system, all they know is that the system is expensive.

    They don’t know how f-ed up it is on top of being expensive. I think that’s the case with most young adults. They don’t know how terrible it is until it touches them personally.

  139. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #134: ““A dead guy can’t flip a handburger.”

    We have the technology ….

  140. spiffyhussein says:

    120—I agree. It’s suspicious all around.

    Speaking of conspiracies, I did not know until I read about Teddy’s death that Joe Kennedy Jr. was killed when explosives his plane was transporting accidentally detonated.

    OK, so that’s one Kennedy brother dead by explosive, another dead by assassin, another dead by assassin, and Teddy was almost killed in a plane crash in 1964.

    Now I am convinced that some group on the Right had it out for the Kennedy brothers from the 1950s. The only one who died a natural death was Teddy.

  141. Bob/Akron says:

    To the right-wing douche-bag, ass-wipe who just called about Bush inheriting 9/11 from Clinton. Bush also inherited a warning from the Clinton Administration that al-Qaeda was a high priority as far as National Security. Bush also inherited Richard Clarke who was trying mightily to drive home this point as Bush vacationed away most of the first six months of his eight year White House kegger.

    Additionally, Bush received no less than two seperate presidential intelligence briefings and a warning from the Italian government during a G8 summit that al-Qaeda would attempt to hijack an aircraft and use it as a missile.

  142. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #142 Joe Jr’s death was sort of Jack’s fault. After JFK’s PT-109 rescue, Joe was jealous and wanted to be a hero too. Hence, he volunteered for the mission which killed him.
    Also, Kathleen (known as Kick) Kennedy, elder sister, was killed in a plane crash in the 40s too. Perhaps the Kennedy’s should develop a fear of flying.

  143. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #124: them’s fightin’ words jram – you need to put some quotation marks around those bad boys.

  144. flombaye says:

    123: you mean the cheney administration has responded to 9-11 already ?

  145. Obamarules says:

    George Will wants us out of Afghanistan now because the Obama administration is FINALLY taking out their opium poppy supply and that is cutting into Will’s heroin supply.

  146. Hi. What is the link for “wireless energy”?

  147. flombaye says:

    129: ironically, it’s inside the MRI machine.

  148. jram says:

    145…not my words!! i swear!!

  149. trojanrabbit says:

    We were told we can go home whenever we feel like it. Some co-workers sent out for subs. Guess I’ll be able to get out before the bad traffic hits.

    Hope everyone has a great weekend.

    Great job Hal!! You need your own show.

  150. flombaye says:

    132: good point. there are crossovers, but there are also non-crossovers in the MOST prevalent organs effective. – fortunately, bluetooth will be providing huge amounts of specific data about very specific types of brain cancer caused by magnetic plumes.

  151. spiffyhussein says:

    144—-But even though Joe Jr’s ego got him to volunteer for the mission, it is still the beginning of some very odd coincidences.

    And you will notice that the media, sometimes controlled by the opposition, started the Fairy Tale of the star-crossed family to explain the continued “coincidences”.

  152. flombaye says:

    139: “what, to the slave, is your war in the gulf ?” – fred engels

  153. flombaye says:

    147: who’s the wiseguy who told george will and sarah palin that they’re ready to rise above sports talk. down, you mongrels. first, you must master sports talk, and then you can elevate your blather to other forums – just like rush limbaugh.

  154. jram says:

    i still love that Levi is totally spilling the beans about Palin…HA!

  155. spiffyhussein says:

    I have to go. I could just stay here blogging at y’all all day. Have a nice weekend and pay the bills!

  156. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #79: Republican rebuttal to presidential speech: “Whatever he said, ferget it!”

  157. jram says:

    holy crap…that song has been stuck in my head all week!!!

  158. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    #154 Spiffy, Not in any way to blame the Kennedys’ ill fortune on them alone, they were wealthy enough to have access to civil aviation in its early days (Kick) and tempermentally inclined to push the envelope anyway, to take risks to demonstrate their courage at a time when the guidelines for safety were not at all well established to start with, so it’s not as surprising in some ways….

  159. flombaye says:

    159: whistle andy griffith and it will go away.

  160. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #75: Not much indoctrinatin’ can be done in 20 minutes. Believe me, I’ve tried.

  161. gabby hayes says:

    hal, ever since you showed up on talk soup, you’ve always been a welcome guest in my life and it’s really great of steph to have you on the air.

    always a joy.

  162. gabby hayes says:

    The best quick indoctrination is a through-the-eyesocket lobotomy.

  163. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    To whom would Jesus deny healthcare?

  164. gabby hayes says:

    all my life kennedys were skiing into trees and skydiving and sailing. I admired them, but there was a clear attraction to difficult and dangerous things in the Kennedy dna

  165. gabby hayes says:

    I think Jesus would probably turn his back on a pharisee. When a wealthy man asked him for salvation, Jesus said to give his money to the poor and “follow me.” The man couldn’t do it and Jesus wasted no more time on him.

  166. Members of the Religious Right should (re)read Mark 25:34-46 and give special attention to verse 40: “… whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me”. The lesson to be gained from this passage is that we all are children of God so we all are brothers and sisters of Christ and, as such, we must treat each other as such if we expect to receive redemption. Many philosophers, both religious and secular, have said the same thing, many times and in many different ways.

    How hypocritical that the self-proclaimed Moral Majority labels those who endeavor to improve the condition of the least of our brethren as Godless Liberals while they worship at the purse of the moneychangers who have turned the health care industry into a den of thieves. For the Family Values crowd, the Golden Rule has become the rule of gold. They are oblivious to the precept that God will know who has followed in the Light of Christ, not by the quantity of their prayers, but by the quality of their acts.

  167. flombaye says:

    166: yeah, those affairs with marilyn manson probably were pretty risky too.

  168. gabby hayes says:

    universal healthcare could lead to government-sponsorded day care. It’s a slippery slope. Someday, our children might be cared for by trained professionals, have high self esteem, very little energy wasted on rebelling against parents, healthy, smart, and eager to make a better world for THEIR children. So we need to nip that in the bud.

  169. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    Love John Fugelsang!

  170. flombaye says:

    … from “some like it hot”, to “the wonder years” to “happy birthday mister president”, truly a consumate performer.

  171. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #170 Marilyn Manson? So the Kennedys had a time machine too?

  172. gabby hayes says:

    I think Marilyn was eager to meet Jack and what heterosexual male wouldn’t at least want to meet Marilyn Monroe? And if she came onto him, well it’s just impolite to say no to a woman. Marlena Dietrich writes in her memoirs about her meeting with Jack. No words were spoken, practically. She was waiting for him. He came in. They kissed, even though they had never met before. On their way to the bedroom, he asked her if she’d ever had sex with Joe, his father. She said she hadn’t. That was about it. Clearly she arrived with a purpose in mind. And, of course, it would have been impolite not to give it to her. Do you think Richard Nixon ever had sex? Was he celibate his entire life because he was impolite to the many women who came onto him or because he had a face like a badly made pair of wingtip broughams?

  173. flombaye says:

    175 was intended to address 174

  174. k to the g says:

    Morning all! I went to a pro health-insurance reform rally in Seattle yesterday. One thing I want to suggest is BRING A MEGAPHONE. The anti-reform tiny contingent had one and it made it very easy for them to get their spew out.

  175. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Henry Rollins!

    Has a show on KCRW every Saturday at 6pm Pacific.

  176. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #175 Stupid comapny blocks youtube.
    I think you meant Marilyn Monroe, not Manson. Brian Warner (aka Marilyn Manson) wasn’t born until after Jack and Bobby had been killed.

  177. k to the g says:

    and there was a skinny little hater who tried to disrupt the speakers by playing an accordian and shouting “seig heil”

  178. shāf says:

    So true, Henry! With great power, comes great responsibility.

    Wait, wasn’t that the theme of Spider-Man?

  179. Amy Outside of DC says:

    #181 I’m still waiting for the Nazi outrage. There are lots of proud Aryan racists in this country, why aren’t they pissed at the right wing equating a black man with Hitler?

  180. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    On Glenn Beck calling Obama a racist, I’ve always wondered, how does Obama do it? Does he hate white people and then black people on alternate days, like the NYC parking schedule? “Cause he’s half black and half white. :-O

  181. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    I mean, :-o

  182. k to the g says:

    183. Yeah, I’d like to see the Nazi’s show up and confront the pretenders. That would be fun to watch. :-D

  183. gabby hayes says:

    thanks, Hal. You were great. And thanks for keeping the spirit of Rollins among us–he’s absolutely one of a kind.

  184. shāf says:

    Thanks, Hal! It’s been a great week with you.

    Have an awesome Labor Day weekend, everyone!

  185. k to the g says:

    Thanks, Hal! Leave a super-size set of headphones for Jim when he comes back.

  186. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    #181 Amy, Excellent point! (I’m picturing the Nazi-helmeted Franz Liebkind, the script-writer in the Producers, saying, Das is not my Fuhrer! Der Fuhrer never said “Baby!”)

  187. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Have a great weekend everybody, and remember: It’s all fun and games till somebody gets a pinkie bitten off (and has to go to the socialist emergency room).

    - SPAR?

  188. Juliet Hussein Bravo, Wise Latina says:

    Have a great weekend, everyone! Fantastic week, Hal, thanks!

    Cheers!

  189. gabby hayes says:

    I think beck only sees the dark skin of Obama and considers him black (to a racist, a single drop of black blood constitutes membership in the black race). He thinks Obama considers people of color to be superior to white people. There is no rational reason for this belief, but it is not the sort of thinking that is vulnerable to rational discussion. He hates Obama because he is dark skinned and has a status that is higher than his own (just as in many Arab nations Jews were not allowed to ride on burros or horses, because that would place them physically higher and therefore superior to arabs who were not on horseback or riding burros). Because his rational brain requires a rationalization for his hatred, he will take any negative stereotype and retroactively attach it to Obama’s behavior and motives. Therefore, there is no contradiction in a brain like Beck’s in calling him both a communist and a nazi because he hates communists and hates a concept he has in mind of a nazi, so clearly those epithets can be safely applied to Obama. If he hated spiders and snakes, Obama would take on spiderlike and snakelike attributes. If he was lactose intolerant, Obama would be like a big banana smoothie.

  190. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Afterthought:

    #105: “102: beck — beck hanson — hanson — androgynous musician — young mick jagger — hmmm “mick” racial slur. so glenn beck is a racist.”

    Hmmm, those links look a little tenuous. Should have gone via Bowie!

  191. taylor sublett says:

    The interview with the 9-11 commission writer only made me feel more insecure that 9-11 was allowed to happen.
    “Mistakes were made” is a ridiculous posture. They had memos! Planes were never scrambled.
    I am eagerly awaiting evidence that tells me THEY really had no idea that this was going to happen.

  192. shaylward says:

    omg, hal sparks was soooooo boring. i listen to the show for the same reason i watch daily show – i need my news with my laughs. also, i like to wake up laughing. hal, ya gotta mix it up!

  193. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    Hey, what’s the deal? A rerun show and no clean sandbox? Did someone not make it back from vacation? Something happen with the fires?

  194. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    Oh, it’s labor day. I forget that other people don’t have to work today.

  195. Hal does a great job IMO. However, he’s not Steph and the Mooks. No one else is..

    Manana, Bananas!

  196. MadCabbieJan says:

    Hey, Shaf and anyone else who remembers me! How’s it going? :)

  197. Doug Wetzel says:

    Just tried to post a comment on Joe Wilson’s web page. It’s “DOWN FOR MAINTENANCE”. What a laugh.