LiveBlog for Monday, August 31, 2009

Happy September. Glad all the rugrats are back in school here in Illinois.

...and in the Health Debate, U.S. Sen. Max Baucus of Montana says a health care overhaul will happen this year even if Republicans back out of bipartisan talks under growing public pressure and that the death of Sen. Edward Kennedy could help hold together a compromise deal.

Details:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/31/baucus-he...

Good morning, everyone! Another drive-by for me.

Hmmm, what to talk about? Is George Will playing the role that Walter Cronkite played during the Vietnam War (i.e. When his support waned for the war, the country's support was seen as lost).

His Op-Ed in the Washington Post:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic...

Show's over, I guess I have to do something else. See you all tomorrow.

Congrats to Jim!

Woo Hoo!

buh bye.

have a better day everyone and get read for tomorrow's Sparta!

Now it's back.

ooh, all the formatting just went away.

Hal is great! Gotta tell Steph we miss the sound effects... hope that makes laugh!

sometime I thing the animals have better rights...

That would be the "full faith and credit" clause, Hal. But it doesn't apply - there's case law that says that FF&C only applies where the record/contract/license is allowed under equivalent requirements in both states.

This is why mixed-race marriages which were legal in one state were not forced to be legal in states where they were prohibited. When Loving vs. Virginia overturned bans on mixed-race marriages, it did not do so on the FF&C clause.

That's all about the "full faith and credit" clause, which arguably makes DOMA unconstitutional.

try for half sparta?

#126, I have spooky powers.

123: hal spocks will appreciate that.

I love the audio with community meeting. The sane people are starting to assert themselves!

It's about time, too.

122: You said it, then it came out on the radio.

121: neg. libertarianism is a set of views on appropriateness of collectivist policies, derived by syllogism from certain perspectives with certain consistent underlying ethics. - - - the fringers spazz around like epileptic weathervanes, making tip oneill look like the rock of gibraltar, advocating whatever position will profit themselves at that moment. - it's like an accelerated version of the stock practice, second-trading.

111: MoveOn.org did in fact get started in response to the Clinton impeachment mess.

They certainly aren't saying "move on" in the context of torture!

#117 Obscure Star Trek reference!!!!! Nice One.

Not just commerce, but general welfare clause too.

Aren't they called Libertarians?

"104 I didn’t get that. What do you think he was embarrassed about?"
not "embarrased"; embarrised. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACpNVD5GMUw

117: even in lincoln's time, a shout-out to one's log-cabinies was traditional. perhaps that's what kept the war civil.

104 I didn't get that. What do you think he was embarrassed about?

#112, that's actually a very tricky programming job. One line of code wrong, and the wife is always shouting HARCOURT FENTON MUDD!!!

who created the creepy dancing baby ? - did it just happen ?

Mahatma Kane Jeeves is correct -- the catchphrase was "censure and move on", censure was a remedy short of impeachment for Clinton's misbehavior.

#112, a testament to programming skills.

111: there is some debate as to whether it was a fracas or a ruckus, for there was a plethora of components.

110: creating the flying toasters was awesome enuff, but also creating his wife was a smart move.

I thought that MoveOn started during the Clinton impeachment fracas.

No, Hal, MoveOn was named for a reasonable liberal reaction to the Clinton scandal "Censure and Move On", rather than the impeachment circus.

It was founded by the programmer that created the Flying Toasters screen-saver and his wife.

Oh, crap, I forgot about Michelle Bachman in my post on the lunatic fringe....gotta add her.

107: beware the wand of psyches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSKLMZlICFQ

Guess whose face shows up in an article on Tenthers?

Michelle "Bat Crazy" Bachmann!

105: the surprise is that he didnt win it for that cameo in "silent movie".

Is the surprise that Jim Ward won an Emmy? Morning all!

102: he just always seemed rather embarrised

101: yeah, it happens. - i found out that back in college (before i dropped out largely due to constraints of california's financharade, some cat named "dean" had me on his list. - i still dont know what i supposedly did to this fellow.

#100 - did you ever understand anything he said? Except when they started investigating him, and he would rant for hours about government thugs.

Tenthers on Penthius

Think Progress » 'Tenther' Activists Add The Federal Highway ...
Absolutely..get these tenthers on National TV. Have them agrue for the dismantlement of Medicare, social security, and the interstate highway system. ...
thinkprogress.org/2009/08/27/tenther-highway/
Bob Cesca's Awesome Blog! Go!: Tenthers?
Aug 28, 2009 ... Tenthers? An array of prominent wingnuts believe that the Tenth Amendment dictates that the federal government shouldn't be meddling in a ...
www.bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2009/08/tenthers.html
Think Progress » Texas 'tenthers' plan pro-secession rally tomorrow.
The Republican Party (the one to which many Tenthers belong) loves to pontificate on the importance of taking personal responsibility and accepting the ...
thinkprogress.org/2009/08/28/texas-tenthers-rally/
Rally 'Round the "True Constitution" | The American Prospect
Aug 25, 2009 ... Under the tenther constitution, Barack Obama's health-care reform is ... Tenthers divine all this from the brief language of the 10th ...
prospect.org/cs/articles?article=rally_round_the_true_constitution
Matthew Yglesias » “Tenther” Activists Take Aim at Interstate ...
My Wonk Room colleague Ian Millhiser has been tracking the recent upsurge in “ tenther” thinking—conservatives who basically think that the Tenth Amendment ...
yglesias.thinkprogress.org/.../tenther-activists-take-aim-at-interstate- transportation.php
Alan Colmes' Liberaland » Texas Tenthers Want to Seceed From The Union
Aug 30, 2009 ... The official site of Alan Colmes-liberal commentator, syndicated radio talk show host and Fox News Channel political contributor.
www.alan.com/2009/08/30/texas-tenthers-want-to-seceed-from-the-union/
Texas "tenthers" plan pro-secession rally tomorrow.
Texas "tenthers" plan pro-secession rally tomorrow. thinkprogress.org — An organization calling itself the “Texas Nationalist Movement” plans to march on ...
digg.com/politics/Texas_tenthers_plan_pro_secession_rally_tomorrow
Hullabaloo
Today, however, the tenthers tap into the same populist outrage that inspired a generation of working-class religious conservatives to enthusiastically vote ...
digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/.../rise-of-tenthers-by-dday-this-is-very.html
Daily Kos: One Million Texas Tenthers Demand Secession.
Texas Tenthers--obsessive "Tenth Amendement" nuts who want to abolish the federal government--are going to march tomorrow to push for secession. ...
www.dailykos.com/story/2009/8/29/03935/3387

95: I knew I was on a list.

98: i LOVE that guy !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACpNVD5GMUw

Glenn Beck is definitely a member of the lunatic fringe. Why does he have a TV show? That'd be like giving a show to a September 11 conspiracy theorist.

Does anyone else remember Dr. Gene?

88: it's always easy to munster laffter. it was a great show.

What about 9.9th'ers?

86: okay, but your car is next on the list, i see.