LiveBlog for Thursday, August 13, 2009

I'm always grateful to have a job--and I have done such things as wipe down the insides of oil tanks with rags and shovel manure, so I'm not picky. I might be a cop and I think I'd enjoy firefighting, but I would never ever teach.

I do all those things too.
What I don't do is whine about my hours, because it's an insult to people that work >40 hrs a week, every week and don't get summers off.

>> spiffyhussein says:
>> 380—-very true! Teachers work unpaid OT and at the charter schools, you are expected to work from 7:30 to about 5:00 daily. People will say that’s a normal work day but then the teacher has 2-hours of prep work to do once he or she gets home.

All that... AND my daughter's teacher also shows up for evening parent meetings. On some Saturdays she runs a support group for parents of at-risk kids. She has even visited us in our home.

I don't think she gets an extra dime for any of that.

Most workers do not work for free.

Yet, some of those same people SNIPE at teachers, calling them lazy.

It's so unfair.

K---I'm so happy my Mac is up for now. Take care.

sparta

421: that was my bad. i misspelled "boo-koo-bucks" in the memo.

399---that's what teachers need!

Again the fastest three hours on radio is done! See you all tomorrow.

Crankypantsuit according to Jon Stewart. bye all!

My wife worked for collections at a county hospital. If people didn't pay, they sent collection agents after them.

She hated that job and got out first chance.

How did this myth get started that hospitals are free if you show up?

380----very true! Teachers work unpaid OT and at the charter schools, you are expected to work from 7:30 to about 5:00 daily. People will say that's a normal work day but then the teacher has 2-hours of prep work to do once he or she gets home.

Plus she works through lunch.

scary: i just realized that steph and rebekah could both be fully replaced by danny bonaduce and newt gingrich on phones and drums.
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poLSrXjhOxY ) damn you, john grisham.

If a firefighter sucks at his job, the house might burn down, people might be injured or die.
If a teacher sucks at his job, the kids won't learn, and you'll end up with thousands of dummies who can't think for themselves and have to be told what to do and think by the guy on the radio...

When you go to a county hospital, they still bill you.

How do people not know this?

>>fire fighters work every third day.
yeah after working a 24 Hour shift

>>cops spend most of their time cruising or parked at duncan doughnuts.
bullshit - ride along with a patrolman or homicide detective some day and then talk about what cops do and don't do

>>teachers deal with a full classroom of perps–and a fresh group of them each hour all day long.
It's really refreshing to see that a teacher is referring to the future of america as a classroom full of perps

>>most also have to coach and do unpaid chores like supervise the lunch room, study halls, dances, and field trips.
You are Exempt under FLSA, if you don't like your job, quit and do something else, but please....for the love of creation, stop your whining

fart noises would be nice now

377---that's only to protest the hospital from lawsuits. Some ladies get dizzy and faint after childbirth, even 2 days later, so they put them in the wheelchair so mom won't faint and drop the baby.

i hate long sing-alongs. let me know when it's down to 25 billion boxes of wine.

404 :lol: :lol:

#398 Who the hell is whining?

you know, i have one simple wish: one hot dog in the shower with a frikkin laserbeam on its head !

99 trillion boxes of wine on the wall, 99 trillion boxes of wine!!

burn him!!

Where was the 99 trillion crowd when we started spending 10 billion a month in Iraq?

America is farting, as a nation

373---I don't know how it is in your area, but here is what cops and firefighters get in the L.A. area:

Cops work 36 hours a week, 3-12 hour shifts. So they get 4 days off a week. I can't tell you why the union got the city to go along with that, maybe it is a recruitment tool, but that's what they get. Cops have not been well thought if here for decades but Chief Bratton has really improved the LAPD so now the citizens are OK with the cops.

Firefighters also work 3-4 days in a row, staying at the station, and then they get the remainder of the week off to be with their families. Firefighters are revered in this city, as they should be, but we all just adore them.

Teachers work 180-225 days a year. They do get all the traditional holidays off and anywhere from 6 to 10 weeks vacation depending on where they teach. Teachers are not well thought of here in L.A. or even down in the more conservative areas like O.C. They are seen as spoiled and whiny, people complain that it's all their fault when students don't succeed, but no one ever blames the kids' parents, or administration, or the gov't who all have a TON of power and influence over children.

So teachers get time off but they also have to put up with being derided by the public.

99 Trillion boxes of wine on the wall
99 Trillion boxes of wine
You take one down and pass it...
Oh oh, Steph took all 99 Trillion.

SPARTAC!!!!!!!

yeah, I forgot about supplies. Every year we adopt a classroom and provide stickers, art supplies, books, little things for holiday presents and piles of paper and pencils because the school is responsible for them, but doesn't actually buy them.

when my mom had me in 1980, it was 3 days before her insurance kicked in. the company said they would cover me, but not the person, nor the action (labor) that it took to bring me into the world.

nice....

387 "sorry" to ruin the surprise ?
truly ?
sincerely ?
enuff to drop and give us 20 ?
- yeah, didnt think so.

and SHARKS WITH FRICKIN' LASER BEAMS ON THEIR HEADS! 8-O

teachers are EXEMPT under the FLSA
cops and firefighters are non-exempt
if you wanted to be paid OT you should have chosen a non-exempt profession -- otherwise accept your paltry salary and quit your whining

#393 We just had a new duty added for some of us (including me): in-school suspension supervision. I'm sure those kids will be real angels.

#357: why the 2 'n's in Hartmann ... The root is the German "Mann" for man (Hartmann could mean hard man, and so on).

374: well, that's fine for you, because alfred nobel designs your ammo. what about the music and language teachers ?

>> Ruben G. says:
>> teaching can be dangerous?
>> crossing guards are in more danger than teachers

In the urban schools here in "safe" Portland the cops where bullet-proof vests in the hallways of the school.

But the teachers don't! (I'm not sure what that means.)

Anyway, here is a top-15 list and neither crossing guards nor teachers are on it.

- - -
Occupation Relative Risk Leading Fatal Event

Fishers 21.3 Drowning
Timber Cutters 20.6 Struck by Object
Airplane Pilots 19.9 Airplane Crashes
Structural Metal Workers 13.1 Falls
Taxi Cab Drivers 9.5 Homicide
Construction Workers 8.1 Vehicular, Falls
Roofers 5.9 Falls
Electric Power Installers 5.7 Electrocution
/Repairers
Truck Driver 5.3 Highway Crashes
Farm Occupations 5.1 Vehicular
Police, Detectives, 3.4 Homicide, Highway Crashes
Supervisors
Nonconstruction Laborers 3.2 Vehicular
Electricians 3.2 Electrocution
Welders and Cutters 2.4 Falls, Fires
Guards 2.3 Homicide

http://tinyurl.com/l3qamb

fire fighters work every third day.
cops spend most of their time cruising or parked at duncan doughnuts.
both do little but eat and rest on the job until something bad happens and they are forced to interact with perps.
teachers deal with a full classroom of perps--and a fresh group of them each hour all day long. most also have to coach and do unpaid chores like supervise the lunch room, study halls, dances, and field trips.

368: sounds like a rehash of the lederwulf culinary academy. - empolyers soon got familiar with the caliber of performance they were churning out. next, restaurant managers knew to avoid bothering with grads from lederwulf.

#379 The hours are partially paid for by the school district.

#376 The first job I had was in an inner city. This was in 1973. One of the kids grabbed a female teacher by the head and put her head through her classroom window. That was in 1973. In cities, it has gotten a lot worse in schools. There are several shootings every year around Chicago public schools. That's one reason I choose to teach in a small rural school.

I teach inner city, no teacher in my school has ever been shot or sent to the hospital after an attack.

when I had my daughter in 1983, I stayed in the hospital for 5 days after a vag delivery and no complications. My sister had her daughter in 1996 and after a vag delivery and no complications, she was turned out 36 hours later.

THAT's right.... "Man On Dog" Santorum is thinking about running in 2012. Sorry to spoil the surprise.

#350: The STEPHCAM (ding!) makes you look 50lbs thinner. It also makes your ass look spectacular as long as it's in the lower third of the frame.

STEPH, WHO ARE YOU CALLING HIGH-STRUNG? HUH?

363---gabby is right. In the inner city teaching can be dangerous.

inner city or rural?

ok gabby, let's hear it, where do you teach?

in the military they have home visits by nurses after you go home...

government healthcare at its....worst?

372 me too