LiveBlog for Tuesday, August 11, 2009

crowleyRep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY) calls in at 6:05am Pacific to talk about health care reform and the town hall meetings.

eunicekennedyshriverEunice Kennedy Shriver, former President John F. Kennedy’s sister and founder of The Special Olympics, has died. The 88-year-old Shriver had been hospitalized in Massachusetts since last week. Members of her extended family had gathered at her bedside at Cape Cod Hospital in Barnstable.

President Obama said yesterday that the United States remains Mexico’s partner in the fight against drug cartels, despite some calls in the U.S. to delay counter-narcotics aid because of alleged human rights violations by Mexican soldiers. Mexican President Felipe Calderon reaffirmed his commitment to transparency and human rights in his offensive against the cartels.

• President Obama yesterday praised the spirited debate over his health care plan and predicted “sensible and reasoned arguments” would ultimately prevail in Congress. Obama faces a potentially boisterous health care reform town hall in New Hampshire today.

South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford (R) broke state law when he charged taxpayers for more expensive business and first-class flights, according to the chairman of the legislative committee investigating Sanford’s international travel. State Sen. David Thomas (R) said that is an impeachable offense.

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Bye all! Fight the stupid! :-D

>> Tony says:
>> We need to get rid of the fee for service system that we have for health care.

HMO's where supposed to fix that problem -- or so the conservatives promised us.

Hasta manana, amigas y amigos!

Don't you ever change a thing.

L.

#383 Good point Tony. Obama said the same thing when he was here in Raleigh.

Later, skaters. Oh, and if you're interested in a piece I did on why it's the fee for service system that needs to be addressed, check out my blog.

Gotta feel bad for Hillary. Once upon a time, what happened in Africa stayed in Africa (just ask the king of Belgium). Nowadays, you roll your eyes in Timbuktoo and your boss watches it on the youtubes on the plane in Guadalajara.

Bye all! Florida here I come!

Incredible stupidity not knowing that Hawking is a Brit. Just the sort of ignorant bullshit emitted continuously by the Repubican Party and instantly consumed by their stooges at the bottom of the food chain.

thank-youfor your consideration --

GRATEFULLY EVERYTHING CHANGES --

so many options -- mm

As for the doctors getting paid for every service they order, that's another problem we have. We need to get rid of the fee for service system that we have for health care. Doctors have an incentive to prescribe more tests and treatments because they get paid for every one they do.

Another lightning fast three hours. See you all tomorrow!

So Sarah keeps muddying the water with her stupidity. Go to my site to see what I think about Sarah. It's really worth the click. Sort of a Suess meets Mother Goose meets Sarah Palin thing.

has stephy been doing krugel exercises ?

boy for a deity, Jim sure is dumb at GTQ

#371 I agree. When they are told the calls coming into their offices are not in favor, they get spooked. Those who want it may not be making their voices heard as loudly.

Well, bye eMooks.

Write a letter to your leader, today!

365...even if you accept the premise that emergency rooms are free health care for the uninsured, someone is paying for it.

And those people are the ones who have insurance. The hospitals pass on the costs to the people who do pay their bills. The insurance companies pass the costs of that on to the policy holders.

That means that even if you get health care paid for by your company, you're paying for it. Every dollar they spend on health insurance is a dollar they can't spend on wages.

PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin,

That Hawking thing was hilarious.

It shows that Republicans are as stupid as Hawking is smart.

376: in honor of the fact that the man purpose of albert gonzalez to the cheney administration is the token mexicanity, it's "albert".

Susan Collins (R-Beaver) sneezed and vaccine went away

There are even some community hospitals that contract their EM docs and reward them with bonuses for how much they bill out and get reimbursed. You can see how wrong that is too. It encourages docs to do more for people with insurance and less for those without who probably won't pay their bills, regardless of what the patient actually needs.

All that crap about defensive medicine and worrying about getting sued is really overblown. It's just what REpubliTARDS want.

372/374: steph/hawking attempting to hump double-dutch with a jump-rope and chocolate ice cream.... the mind flips like an electric klein bottle.

I guess I believe that Blue Dogs oppose affordable health care because they get big money from big business.

"I'm in a conservative district" is just a lame excuse.

I just looked up. The sky is dark. May have to make a quick dash inside.

Did everyone catch the quote about Stephen Hawking on the blogs yesterday? In case you missed it, here it is:

"People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn't have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless."

Source: actual quote from How House Bill Runs Over Grandma By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Friday, July 31, 2009 4:20 PM PT

Stephen Hawking has lived in the UK all his life and gets treatment for his ALS at an NHS hospital. Wow, I wonder what else IBD got wrong in their editorial! Moral of the story: never underestimate how often you are being lied to.

(links at http://horsesass.org/?p=18805 )

"Life would be tragic if it weren't funny." - Stephen Hawking quoted in "The Science of Second-Guessing", The New York Times (12 December 2004).

368: animal mother definitely ran circles around this lame crap in "full metal jacket": if i'm going to give my life in defense of a word, i would want that word to be "poontang".

That's a long lead time Stephanie. What are the chances she gets double bumped?

>> Obamarules says:
>> #357 I just think they have a lot more Republicans in their districts,

True, But in June, 50% of REPUBLICANS supported a public option. (http://tinyurl.com/lmm6wj)

Are these Blue Dogs claiming they can't turn that to 51% with some good speeches? Did they even try?

Natasha and Boris skit - Jimbo at his best.

My hero and mentor Jim Ward.

#365 I agree. It's wrong. That's why it needs to be fixed. It would be so much better for everyone!

one of Jack's best:

"You can't handle the truth!

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns.

Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know - that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives; and my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible
to you, saves lives.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall - you need me on that wall.

We use words like "honor," "code," "loyalty." We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it.

I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way.

Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand the post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you're entitled to!"

-Colonel Jessup

362: and for those who have ears, "sting, where is thy death ?"

355: yeah, it's totally great !! - ooh, yeah, i mean hey, the book is really great too !

Obamarules,

I understand your point.

But I was infuriated when Bush said that emergency rooms are free healthcare.

They send you a huge bill and sic collection agents on you, if you don't pay it.

#357 I just think they have a lot more Republicans in their districts, who probably didn't show up to vote 'cause they were sick of Bush, and now are getting hammered by republican operatives with the lies and requests to call their reps and complain.

358: in europe, they call it "murder 1.6" - check out the biggin brain on ivan ! - that's right. because of the metric system.

Ah.. drown in a vat of whiskey.

Death, where is thy sting?

356: are the green brothels equipped to handle everything in multiples?

Hannity could be waterboarded just by squeezing him til he drowns in his own fluids. EWWW. sorry 'bout that one. :mrgreen:

Book him, Danno. Murder one.

The Blue Dogs complain that their constituency are against health care reform.

Really? Against cheaper healthcare? Against healing sick children? Against making insurance companies do their jobs? Really?

More likely, the Blue Dogs aren't bothering to explain it to their people.

#351 They have a ton more overhead then a regular doctors office because they need to be equiped to handle anything and everything in multiples, plus they can't turn anyone down or ask for payment up front like a doctors office can.

351: i've heard book commercials about this. "get SCREWED by thom hartmann"

#353 I lost count when Olbermann quit counting after Mancow admitted it was torture.

347
How many days has it been since Tic-tac Head said he'd be waterboarded?

quick kato, open up the death panel. get your hand on the trig and be ready.

But, it's not like emergency rooms are free. They bill you a FORTUNE if you use it.

If you are homeless or don't care about your credit rating --- you skip the bill.

But the average American gets screwed -- either pay thousands of dollars or screw your credit rating.

... and this is the system that conservatives JUST LOVE!

347: i'll need 87 cents of that deposited up front.