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yarmuthRep. John Yarmuth (D-KY) calls in at 6:30am Pacific to talk about health care reform.

solisSecretary of Labor Hilda Solis calls in at 7:05am to give us the White House perspective on health care reform.

frischKarl Frisch, Senior Fellow at Media Matters for America, calls in at 8:05am Pacific to talk about the “Birther” phenomenon.

• After more than six hours of negotiations among White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, talks between House Democratic leaders and key Blue Dog Democrats broke up last night without a deal on health care reform. The talks are expected to continue today.

The Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday approved the nomination of federal Judge Sonia Sotomayor to become the nation’s first Hispanic Supreme Court justice, setting up a final confirmation vote by the Senate. At least 5 GOP senators have announced their intention to support Sotomayor, making a confirmation by the Dem-controlled Senate a virtual certainty.

• The top U.S. commander in Afghanistan is expected to ask the Obama administration for additional troops and equipment, according to a senior U.S. military official familiar with Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s thinking.

• Hawaiian officials this week said they have once again checked and confirmed that President Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born citizen.

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471 Responses to “LiveBlog for Wednesday, July 29, 2009”

  1. flombaye says:

    yesterday, thom hartmann (the token smart male gentile of talk radio) posed a very telling devil’s advocate question apropos the birther phenomenon: suppose they’re NOT racist…. the problem of establishing their motivation(s) then becomes a simple matter of filling in the blank. they’ve had a couple of years to come up with something. either that something has been getting systematically edited out of newspapers, radio, and the interweb, or the birthers have been keeping it, like the appeal of the rolling stones, a closely guarded secret for all these years. a hearty welcome to karl frisch. i would love to know the latest on what media matters has learned in studying these people.

  2. trojanrabbit says:

    Goood morning flombaye and the rest of you livebloggers!

    A drive-by again (which I actually suppose is a good thing since it means I’m working on something…), just waiting for my client to get here. More pretty lights to test.

  3. Sitting in my favorite bar last night,
    the chief of police sits next to me and has
    a beer. Kinda creepy. He’s off duty and not
    a bad guy, but still. It’s not like he’s just
    another guy in the bar. Just another guy doesn’t
    have the power to throw you in jail. Now I don’t
    want to go back anytime soon.

  4. flombaye says:

    good moanin’ wascawwy wabbit. perhaps you can help set up the beta test on my new experimental RICK SANTORUM WITH ONE HOT DOG IN THE SHOWER videos. – we’re anticipating a possible guest appearance by michael vick.

  5. 1 Thom got it right: it’s about these kooks who can’t accept
    that Obama is a legit President. They are blind to the Bush
    cabal shooting it’s way into town and taking over, but they
    hate and fear Obama so they are SURE he’s not legit.

    And not a word from them on Operation Paperclip, fake birth certs…

  6. Santorum on yer hotdog makes you creepy
    Jomentum on yer shoulder makes you cry

    [to the tune of Sunshine On My Shoulder]

  7. trojanrabbit says:

    The “birfers” must be escapees from Rock Ridge.

  8. flombaye says:

    2/3: testing pretty lights/police encounter combo – [TRUE STORY] – i was cruising westward on highway I-10 (visible on a U.S. map as that one conspicuously uneventful straight line) thru alabama at night, aware of being only very mildly sleepy. visibility: about ten miles in all directions. – suddenly, there were pretty lights dancing back and forth across my rear view mirror. gaining a bit of wakefulness that i had not even noticed was missing, i glanced downward to see my steering wheel oscillating in the same fashion. – it turned out it was wise of them to run the lights a bit before the siren. seems they were wise to the I-10 phenomenon of putting drivers to sleep. the night air awakened me. my criminal record (lack thereof) is as boring as can be, and the four large cornfed gentlemen from the alabama highway patrol could easily recognize that i was not drug and not antisocial, so the man in charge summed it up in simple fashion: “sir, get some sleep. if you can just drive 20 miles to the mississippi border before you kill yourself, that saves me a whole lot of paperwork”.

  9. trojanrabbit says:

    Dang that was lucky! Doggone nearly lost a 400 dollar hand cart!

  10. flombaye says:

    5: well, there is at least the word “berliner” from them, thoe when pressed, many of them will admit that it’s because they hope to some day be as cool and suave as homer simpson.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mu02xUgE4k

  11. 9 better put a string on the hand cart

    8 so you were driving while sleeping? multitasking
    the worst feeling in the world is having to drive while
    continually almost falling asleep

    I talked to the cop last night and we were both cordial
    but I feel unclean, and it’s frightening. Like having
    Rick Santorum in your shower. Or Ed McMann writing letters
    to your wife, promising her money. Or Nazis in your
    government…

  12. flombaye says:

    6: hey !! you’re right !! it also fits the tune of “sunshine”. dang, here i was all getting carried away with these nuance tambourine variations of those lyrics, to a gordon lightfoot and moby grape medley… but you’re absotively right.

  13. flombaye says:

    11: apparently, the early chevys (1960s) had some major self-stabilization. – i actually had the presence of mind to glance at the fastometer before pulling over. i was sleeping at about 55 mph.

  14. 10 Eddie Izzard separated at birther from Tim Curry/Dr. Frank-N-Furter?

    Dr. F-n-F btw an escaped Nazi scientist on the lam for war crimes
    given a new i.d. under OSS/CIA protection and put to work doing
    what he does [Project Rocky Horror] getting the audience to all
    join in it’s just good fun become a dope-head/transvestite…

  15. #1, right-wing authoritarians believe that the role of chief executive (which is as much for them a ritual role as an actual one) belongs to them. No non-right-winger is ever legitimate, by definition.

    Remember, there were “Impeach Clinton” bumper stickers as early as summer ’93. It’s not that they have to do anything liberal, their mere presence is illegitimate.

  16. 13 Kruise Kontrol in yer Kaprice Kapiche?
    strange morning
    an hour til Momma gets here
    I think I’m still creeped out by that cop last night
    something
    mebbe a nice cup of tea… no no stay away from the whiskey
    it’s way too early…

  17. #15, to add: and since a non-right-winger is axiomatically illegitimate to these people, the right will seize on any scenario that has a shred of plausibility to justify that claim of illegitimacy. If Obama’s father had been African-American, rather than African; if he had been a white American even, they would find some other scenario. The birther claim is just the lowest hanging fruit.

  18. 15 the infantile workings of the right wing mind never cease
    to amaze me. They are rooted in Sun King worship, they demand
    someone to tell them what to do, what to think… and they
    hate and fear anyone who threatens to upset that little apple cart…
    xenophobia is a major hallmark of their littul mindset

  19. #8, I’ve had and observed good interactions with cops as well as bad ones. My problem is not that cops can be bad (the Stanford Prison experiment proves anyone can be); but that we have a total failure of our institutions to train, rein in, and discipline cops when they give into authoritarian macho alpha-male impulses. Instead, we have institutions that circle the wagons to protect police abuses, excuse them, attack or ignore anyone reporting or accusing abuse.

    If we had honest mechanisms to train against and dissuade this behavior, and honest mechanisms to punish offenders, we’d have an awful lot less of it. But put people into a culture of authority and impunity, and not only will will take advantage of it; they will seek it out as an occupation precisely because of it.

  20. flombaye says:

    14: reminds me of something beyond even the birthers: the people who want to make a “chemtrail” phenomenon out of high altitude aircraft. – i was actually lucky enuff to catch the time that the “cathy” comic strip was funny — okay, the connection runneth thusly: the chemtrail people are bound and determined to be the most boring subgroup there is, even among conspiracy theorists. they whine and pontificate and take up valuable coast-to-coast-am time that would be better spent on anything from sasquatch to phil spector (and the barber that they share), and they dont even have theories, just unfocused anxiety. at least the birthers make specific statements. – meanwhile, as these anxious people are plexing over the possibilities of mystery chemical xr-2109 from area 51, people are openly, willingly, eagerly stuffing themselves with bovine milk, nitrates, nitrites, MSG, tar, nicotine, and HFCS, reaping results that the most demonic of MK-Ulterior motivants could only envy from beneath the pedestal. – could the deep dark “covert” mind control experiments ever come anywhere close to extracting such expenditures of energies as the rocky-horribles who have spent more than the GNP of belgium to attend every showing of a 33 year run of THE SAME SHOW ? – the “cathy” comic strip summed it up perfectly. somebody perusing the newspaper conversed about the latest development in cloning technology. – all en masse, the people all dressed alike, reporting dutifully to their morning line at the fourbucks coffee counter, said in unison “I COULD NEVER LIVE IN A WORLD WITH CLONES !!!”

  21. flombaye says:

    17: well, you saw how george washington and james madison were disloyal scumbags. got to go with the locals.

  22. I’m disappointed with the liberal media, and have proof they’re just out to destroy our girl Sarah. Not a single one of them showed the entirety of her speech! They left out some of the most coherent and stirring passages, such as:

    ‘Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.

    and

    Groop, I implore thee, my foonting turlingdromes
    And hooptiously drangle me
    With crinkly bindlewurdles,
    Or else I shall rend thee in the gobberwarts with my blurglecruncheon
    See if I don’t.

  23. flombaye says:

    18: here are some nice lads who have apparently conquered their xenophobia, thoe there does remain some trouble with stabilizing the apple cart. i wouldnt want to fall asleep in that puppy at 55 mph.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEEfJGp6VLw

  24. 19 ‘authoritarian macho alpha-male impulses’
    nicely connects the kreepyness of having
    the cop beside me at the bar and the ravings
    of the birthers… you’re right, the prollem is
    at the societal level, it’s institutionalized
    whorship of power and authority…

    20 occam’s razor… take the biggest, most obvious
    prollem first… campaign finance reform? audit the FED?
    the farther out the konspiracy the less attention it
    should get… the food is fundamentally unsound…
    get the high fructose poison out of yer diet first,
    worry about finding more material for making tinfoil
    helmets later…

  25. 23 thank you Peter, I ditint tivo The Tonight Show but should
    not have worried, OF COURSE it will pop up on the web… the
    Shat Man is still at the top of his game.

    Wunder whut odds Vegas would give you on a Shat-Man Presidential
    run. He’s one of the most beloved figures in Uhmerica, I bet if
    he ran he’d win easy. Evvyboddy love Capt Kwirk. and Spock fer V.P.

  26. flombaye says:

    22: coherent by palineal standards, yes, but they left it out because it’s actually derivative of an earlier work. i remember desi arnaz reciting the former half of that on SNL.

  27. flombaye says:

    23: thank you. that undiluted wonder is going to put william shatner on the map. – also, i noticed that they used the bass player from “the people’s court”. – it’s good to see that his career is moving along too.

  28. Worse than Vogons, worse than the Azgoths of Kria, the worst poet in the universe, according to Hitchhiker’s, is a real person named Paul Neil Milne Johnstone (the name was changed in later versions to Paula Nancy Millstone Jennings). Johnstone went to university with Douglas Adams.

    The actual poem in question here is this:

    The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool.
    They lay. They rotted. They turned
    Around occassionally.
    Bits of flesh dropped off them from
    Time to time.
    And sank into the pool’s mire.
    They also smelt a great deal.

  29. #26, the Shat-man is Canadian, so I wouldn’t put good odds on him.

  30. flombaye says:

    25: i hadnt even realized it until i took an intense american history course, but the people who couldnt decide between george bush and bill clinto had it right all along; VOTE FOR GEORGE CLINTON. – it turns out that george clinton is the only person who has been both a governor, and a member of parliament. – and as the wisdom of his mothership (yes, that is the actual title you get to use once you’ve been both a governor, and a member of parliament) tells us, free your booty, and your mind will follow. – it also works the other way. the point is, just do it.

  31. Carol Hussein in Central Mass says:

    good morning, guys!
    flom, that story from the highway is terrifying. Glad you made it. Same to you, Mark, from sitting near the big cheese. I think it was gawd giving him opportunity to have an authentic witness in his midst.

  32. I so hope Palin is the Future of the Rethug party, cause
    if so they are doomed. They are doomed. Palin, Ensign,
    Mikey Steal, Booby Ginn’d-up… the whole rotten Krew.
    They showed their true colors during the Bushy era and
    anyone with eyes can see it. Evil. Corrupt. The Party
    of the Elite, at war with the rest of us. Doomed and Damned.
    And Desperate to retain power, therefore Dangerous. They’ve
    still got an appeal for a certain segment of demented
    yahoos… the Limbaugh-audience morons who cut their own
    throats, Right Wing blue collar idiots drinking the Kool-Aid

  33. flombaye says:

    26: credit where credit is due. sure, spock would add a certain “je ne sais what?” to the veepdom, but could this chap match cheney’s sardonic sense of humor ?

  34. Carol Hussein in Central Mass says:

    and Hi Paul and Peter.

    Hey, Steph and crew, thanks for speaking up to Congress and putting it out there.

  35. shāf says:

    Good morning, everyone!

    Anyone else see Gov./Dr. Howard Dean subbing for Keith on Countdown? He did a good job of skewering the GOP’s (and their surrogates) lies on health care. One of the biggest and boldest being that a government-run health plan will force old people to die. I am not making this up! They ran clips from various RW talk shows either saying it flat-out or agreeing with callers who made such statements. Even President Obama had to deal with a caller to an AARP forum who expressed this point of view.

    Here’s coverage from Media Matters:
    http://mediamatters.org/research/200907210046

  36. flombaye says:

    29: truly, poetry that makes one rip out one’s own carotid artery and form braidwork for the vest of a calico teddybear, but at least not a total loss. her brilliant son, ken jennings (“he’s a brainiac, brainiac…” earworm is optional) went on to win handsomely on “jeopardy” by knowing that fine yet affordable jewelry was discovered when somebody smelt copper.

  37. 29 thanx, I fergot about ‘Enjoying Vogon Poetry’… it makes watching
    Rethug douche-baggery much easier…
    30 Good Point, but mebbe Shatner can fake an American birth cert…
    31 Wow the Geo Clinton Konnection! Member O’Parliment, etc. Bootsy fer
    V.P.! I shouldda tott of it. I never had any GOOD Am Hist klasses…
    32 Hey Carol! g’moanin’!

  38. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Morning, all.

  39. flombaye says:

    30: radio talk shows are sometimes plagued by a boring dullard (not ab accident; the man is boring for a dullard) who deceives all the screeners and gets on air to publicize a theory that john lennon was just getting too popular, and that a cabal wanted to prevent john from becoming president of the united states. – the facts that lennon is british, and that lennon had (at most) zero interest in the presidency, were conveniently overlooked.

  40. 35 Cheney’s Darth Vader versus the Kirk/Spock ticket… battle I’d
    like to see. With the Pope as the Emperor.

    37 poor Howard Dean, they crushed him with his own over the top
    video. I didn’t see he was still around, nice he’s fighting the
    good fight on health care reform. The basterds in Big Ins/Pharma
    and their bought-N-Paid-For Kronies in Kongress are doing a
    good job of killing all hope… we need a good tar and feathering
    of these Blue Dog jerks… I signed the petition for the Public Option
    the other day, but I’m gonna write some emails make some calls today

  41. #42, they also enhanced the audio to make it over the top, and the media played along.

  42. flombaye says:

    32: thank you. the mississippi highway patrol personnel were also glad that i made it to tulane, because tulane is more spacious than one, and they didnt really want all that paperwork either.

  43. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Steph is probably tired from spending the night searching for a place to hide her Hal Sparks standee.

  44. flombaye says:

    34: yes, thank you. they did indeed beat me to it be a year. i’m just relieved that it wasnt some pulp story you were referring to, when you said that they had beat me to it. getting beaten to a pulp gets old.

  45. 40 hi LHS!

    41 there was an FBI file on Lennon, not because he wanted
    to be Prez but the Nixon/Hoover Axis of Paranoia was ‘fraid
    he would cause a riot at the Rethug National Convention to
    be held I think in New Yorik… Mark David Chapman who killed
    Lennon does have some very strange links to the CIA mind Kontrol
    stuff… he sat there calmly reading ‘Catcher in the Rye’
    after the shooting… ah but ALL assassinations in the USA are
    ALWAYS Lone Nutters, never connected to anything, ‘specially
    not to the elite offing anyone who challenges the status quo…

  46. 44 I knew the konnection between you Flombe and Ignatius Reilly
    would come out eventually…

    “I am at this moment writing a lengthy indictment against
    our century. When my brain begins to reel from my literary
    labors, I make an occasional cheese dip.”

    “A firm rule must be imposed upon our nation before
    it destroys itself. The United States needs some theology
    and geometry, some taste and decency. I suspect that we
    are teetering on the edge of the abyss.”

  47. Good morning, BlookenMogenators! I hope you are all well and randy..

    Well, just kidding on the randy part. If you’ve gotten ‘em, smoke ‘em.

    I’m off shortly to take the car in for service. It gets better medical care than I do sometimes.. (costs as much..)

    So, I’m likely Read-Only mostly today on the BlogRoll.

  48. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Wild Thang!

  49. DrunkNIrishDanielle says:

    Mornin’ all! ALmost 50 posts before the show!

  50. flombaye says:

    47: maybe there’s room on the interweb for a “catcher in the rye” discussion forum. “loners of the world, unite !”

  51. 45 aw Momma, tired from all that traipsing around in her
    peignoir and mud-pack with the Hal Sparks stand up vainly
    looking for a spot not already encumbered with dog poop or
    empty wine boxes… I feel so bad for her, would really
    like to help… anything to make her life easier, seeing as
    she does so much for us and the Country

  52. flombaye says:

    48: okay, if those are the choices, i’ll take GEOMETRY for five hundred.

  53. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Walking on Sunshine!

  54. 52 I dunno, someone might put something up somewheres on the
    innernuthin about it sometime, but space is prolly limited

    Momma Time!

  55. LeftCenter says:

    Good morning, live blogospherians! Whoa…no change of theme yet!

  56. shāf says:

    Dang, almost missed showtime!

  57. LeftCenter says:

    Mama’s thinking vermouth.

  58. flombaye says:

    53: maybe i’m just too practical for this culture, but stray dog poop and EMPTY wine boxes ? – surely there’s a solution in there somewhere. where were we ? – okay, i’ll take speling for 200. stand back, ken jennings. i’m gonna make your answers look like your mother’s poetry.

  59. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Steph’s doing her Phyllis Diller.

  60. DrunkNIrishDanielle says:

    perhaps mama has the same icky flu I do… home sick today… yuck!

  61. Medicare apparently reimburses doctors comparatively poorly, if somewhat more reliably than private insurance.

  62. Rocky Mountain High, Colorado says:

    Mornin’

    Steph’s been yelling.

  63. shāf says:

    #63 Sorry to hear that, Danielle. Hope you feel better soon!

  64. LeftCenter says:

    Maybe mama’s been throwing up too much boxed wine.

  65. Rusty says:

    Blew dogs is actually the job description of their employment before beong elected to congress!!

  66. 54 Geometry for 500 it is

    who said “What we need is a good, strong monarchy with
    a tasteful and decent king who has some knowledge of
    theology and geometry and to cultivate a Rich Inner
    Life…”

    Momma IS tired from smoking road flares and looking for a
    spot for the Hal stand-up

  67. LeftCenter says:

    Danielle get well soon, and stay away from me!

  68. 63 hope you feel better Dani!
    our best efferts to keep you entertained
    and mind off the illness…

    three werds: Honey Whiskey Lemon!

  69. gabby hussein hayes says:

    What if your congressman is Jerri Blank?

  70. flombaye says:

    68: i knew it ! this guest appearance of michael vick in our latest RICK SANTORUM WITH ONE HOT DOG IN THE SHOWER video is going to be completely awesome. you’ll want to watch closely, as we post a bongo player and a bassist out on the airplane wing to scare the crappage out of william shatner.

  71. shāf says:

    Yep. Projection much?

  72. gabby hussein hayes says:

    I could not consider a health care plan that does not require abortion of all potential fetuses and everyone over 30.

  73. DrunkNIrishDanielle says:

    thanks Shaf.. just a cold I think… but it sucks because today is my last night of school before graduation and I would have prefered to be celebrating after class rather than stuck on the couch sick… BUT I’m holding out with a good attitude because it is still my last day!

  74. LeftCenter says:

    Jim and Chris, the Republican plan is all-inclusive, not just to put seniors to death.

  75. Food Fascist says:

    Just three days ago, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin blasted Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund’s efforts to save wolves in her resignation speech.

    With your help, we’ve put aerial gunning in the national spotlight and built momentum to stop it. Now we need your support to seize this moment and fight to end these awful wolf-killing programs…

    https://secure.defenders.org/site/Donation2?idb=0&df_id=2420&2420.donation=form1&autologin=true&s_src=4WDW09101SA2B&s_subsrc=4XDKJD1XA2B&JServSessionIdr011=1c7b66u7d5.app25a

  76. Amy outside of DC says:

    Should call it Wake Up Screaming with Sarah Palin.

  77. shāf says:

    Three hours of Palin’s calming voice? OH! OH! OHHHHHHH!!!!!!

  78. gabby hussein hayes says:

    could the bongo player be John Lithgow?

  79. Tony says:

    Yes, because when you’ve got no health insurance, you stay alive forever! What kind of dumbass acts as if GETTING health insurance, no matter how basic it is, would kill people? And furthermore, what does it say about the people who elected her? How stupid are they? Can they just ride off into the sunset and go away?

  80. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    The Shat Rulz!!!

  81. Amy outside of DC says:

    #78 Congrats on your impending academic honors, DNIDanielle!

  82. Aja says:

    LOL @ 81!!

  83. flombaye says:

    69: it’s a trick question. of course, everybody knows that antoine lavoisier said it to marat in 1787, but christopher walken is known to have sometimes repeated it be accident while ordering a club sandwich.

  84. Food Fascist says:

    William Shatners finest hour!

  85. DrunkNIrishDanielle says:

    wow… wow…word salad doesn’t even do that justice…

  86. shāf says:

    Palin, as beat poetry? WIN!!!!!!

  87. Tony says:

    Caribou Barbie…stream of consciousness without meaning.

  88. Skyhawk says:

    I smell a future SNL bit. Tina Fey with Shatner. Kinda like Garret Morris interpreting for the deaf by shouting out the things being said.

  89. LeftCenter says:

    Ken Nordene would be proud of Palin/Shatner.

  90. flombaye says:

    82: well done. how did you manage, without even using a customized font, to make us actually HEAR sam kinison?

  91. DrunkNIrishDanielle says:

    thanks Amy! Much appreciated! It only took me 7 years to do a 4 year double major, but hey, at least I’m finally done! :) I even titled my graduation party invitations “It’s About Damn Time!”

  92. LeftCenter says:

    Well, Ken Nordine might be. I doubt if Ken Nordene would.

  93. gabby hussein hayes says:

    stream of consciousness has meaning, but its meaning is cleverly hidden from the person streaming.

  94. Amy outside of DC says:

    Fed used to be short for Federline, now it’s just short for “he’s been eating.”

  95. gabby hussein hayes says:

    Time IS space.

  96. gabby hussein hayes says:

    is KOverfed still wearing that silly hat?

  97. What, we’re not fans of K-Fed’s magnum-opus, Popo Zao? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laynXVsBulg

  98. gabby hussein hayes says:

    a pool: how many weeks before Sarah Palin is replaced by Danny Bonaduce?

  99. Good Lord!!!! Over a 100 posts already!! Busy, busy, busy beavers are we. Sparta by 10am EST!!!! I call it.

  100. 99, used to be K-Fed, now it’s Well-Fed.

  101. gabby hussein hayes says:

    I just saw the picture of kfed. has anyone seen the children lately?

  102. LeftCenter says:

    Hmmm…K-Fed is getting to be about my size. Time for me to lose wieght so no one confuses us.

  103. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    We wouldn’t have to listen to Sarah Palin talk for three hours. She’d quit the show after 90 minutes.

  104. 81 dreadful Sara wants to go up against Momma on her
    home turf… bring it on Ms. Doofus Palin, Momma will
    wipe up the court with you… unless Palin turns out
    to be a big hit cause she’s so freakin’ funny, you
    can’t make the kind of gibberish she spouts up… unless yer her

  105. Tony says:

    I love some of these ads. They are hilarious.

  106. gabby hussein hayes says:

    Don’t let dust or cobwebs accumulate on your beaver.

  107. DrunkNIrishDanielle says:

    106 lol

  108. Amy outside of DC says:

    I think a Caribou Barbie radio show would start with big ratings, with all kinds of curious people listening in. Then her voice would get grating, they’d get tired of the same GOP talking points, and everyone would realize she’s saying the same stuff Limbaugh did, but without the g at the end of words (Sarah Palin doesn’t waste time talking, she’s too busy talkin’ to ya).

  109. gabby hussein hayes says:

    I love the ads that feature a skeptical customer who recites the offer and then says, “What’s the catch?” and the salesperson says, “There’s no catch” and recites the offer again, followed by “…and that’s not all!” and the customer says. “I knew it! A catch!” and the sales person tells about some unbelievable additional benefit you’ll get if you order it today with a credit card and the customer commits suicide because he can’t bear to abandon his skepticism.

  110. Skyhawk says:

    K-Fed=Corn Fed.

  111. LeftCenter says:

    I think Sara Palin would have one problem with a radio gig. Show prep.

  112. flombaye says:

    93: that’s a lot like when an old chevy saves your life because it remains incredibly stable when you fall asleep at 55 mph…. then when the highway patrol guy advises you to go crash in another state, because he doesnt need the paperwork over your death, the patroldude from the other unit hollers “GGOD NIGHT, AND HAVE A PLEASANT CAMARO !”

  113. DrunkNIrishDanielle says:

    I think a palin radio show could be used as torture…

  114. Tony says:

    Well, in Caribou Barbie’s case, stream of consciousness has no meaning. When people who actually have a brain do it, that’s one thing. Caribou Barbie just babbles and then at the end, it’s like, what the hell was she trying to say?

    She wanted to get all the buzzwords in there. She’s so clueless she doesn’t understand that you’ve got to use the buzzwords in a way that makes sense.

    And why the hell was she in Fairbanks? Uh, hello, spend any time in the state capitol at all, you dumb twit?

    We also are insulting Barbie by calling her Caribou Barbie. Barbie at least makes sense. Pull on a string, and she says something that actually makes sense!

  115. shāf says:

    Hmmm, time does fly when you’re unconscious.

  116. Skyhawk says:

    Sarah’s radio career will be as stellar as Bill-O’s. *crickets chipping*

  117. Amy outside of DC says:

    Don’t trust Amy Winehouse with anything.

  118. LeftCenter says:

    Dr. Sanjay Gupta was in a hospital in a report last night about that drug. They had to have someone running a breathing bag and put a breathing tube in because the person couldn’t breathe on his own. Manslaughter is an appropriate charge for Jackson’s doctor.

  119. gabby hussein hayes says:

    “Don’t trust Amy Winehouse with your drugs.” My next tattoo.

  120. Sorry…. just not as good as a ‘Cat Fight’.

  121. DrunkNIrishDanielle says:

    117… Yeah, “I’ll have to find some and get it back to you” doesn’t work so well on a regular radio program…

  122. gabby hussein hayes says:

    Like most people, Sarah thinks the capital of Alaska is Fairbanks. Just like most people think New York City is the capital of New York and Detroit is the capital of Michigan.

  123. Wow, that’s pretty harsh. Clear that Contador has more balls than Armstrong.

    *Penalty Buzzer*

  124. flombaye says:

    100: ICH EIN STEIN BERLINER

  125. shāf says:

    #127 Unless it’s followed by “…right after these commercial messages.” ;)

  126. LeftCenter says:

    Teacher: “Juneau the capital of Alaska?”
    Student: “Nome.”

  127. gabby hussein hayes says:

    Is Fairbanks named after Douglas Fairbanks?

  128. LeftCenter says:

    #133 And if so, Sr. or Jr.?

  129. gabby hussein hayes says:

    like Detroit is named after Nathan Detroit and New York City is named after Frank New York City…

  130. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Heidi Pratt won’t be in Playboy. Excuse me while I say…Thank the Gods. Only attractive women should be in Playboy.

  131. DrunkNIrishDanielle says:

    127… I’m not sure her attention span is capable of carrying over a topic through a commercial break…

  132. Amy outside of DC says:

    Shout out to the live blog.

  133. flombaye says:

    130: ever since the landing, he prefers that you call them his “moon rocks”.

  134. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    I just woke up – what did she steal from the liveblog?

  135. Skyhawk says:

    Huckabee/Palin – Huck and the Puck 2012. I said “PUCK”.

  136. w00t! Mama stole from me.

  137. Go Peter! Steph stole your line!

  138. #140, one small snip for man?

  139. flombaye says:

    133/134: yes, named after douglas fairbanks sr (but before douglas fairbanks jr).

  140. Amy outside of DC says:

    #141 She stole #106. Go PeterW Robobagpiper.

  141. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    “Don’t trust Amy Winehouse with your drugs.” My next tattoo.

    ———————————————————————-
    I wouldn’t trust Amy Winehouse with anything.

  142. LeftCenter says:

    Congrats Peter! (Just got back from getting dressed and heard her in the bedroom, so I’m a little late.)

  143. flombaye says:

    135: actually, i think you missed one there. new york city is named after doctor new york city.

  144. Amy outside of DC says:

    Go back to your districts and tell the people that the government won’t treat you worse than your insurance companies do now.

  145. LeftCenter says:

    Halfway to sparta at 8:37 CT.

  146. Skyhawk says:

    I can trust Amy with my Coke. Oh are we still talking about drugs?

  147. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    w00t! Mama stole from me.

    ———————————————————————-
    Who does Steph think she is, Amy Winehouse?

  148. A FAREWELL TO ALASKA

    by Sarah Heath Palin

    I say it is the best road trip in America…
    soaring through nature’s finest show.
    Denali, the great one…
    soaring under the midnight sun.
    And then the extremes.
    In the winter time…
    it’s the frozen road that is competing…
    with the view of ice fogged
    frigid beauty,
    the cold though,
    doesn’t it split…
    the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs?
    And then in the summertime
    such extreme summertime
    about a hundred and fifty degrees…
    hotter than just some months ago…
    than just some months from now …
    with fireweed blooming
    along the frost heaves
    and merciless rivers
    that are rushing and carving
    and reminding us that here…
    Mother Nature wins.
    It is as throughout all Alaska…
    that big wild good life…
    teeming along the road…
    that is north to the future.

  149. Amy outside of DC says:

    #150 So Detroit is named after Doctor Detroit?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085450/

  150. Rusty says:

    I think the republicans only strategy to kill health reform is,delay ,distract and misinform.

  151. wildweezle says:

    Here is an interesting photo that has Michael Jackson fans guessing…

    http://wildweezle.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/for-michael-jackson-fans/

  152. It all goes back to the destruction of our public education system. If young people are not taught to question what they hear and to research on their own, how can we expect them to be more then the lemmings they have been trained to be. It may be slightly conspiracy corner talk, but I personally think this was planned. The rich can afford to send their children to good schools and the public system pretty much only provides a non-questioning class to flip their burgers, change their oil, and check them out at the grocery store.

    The healthcare issue cleaarly shows that Americans truely do not know how to think for themselves anymore. Lemmings… freakin’ lemmings…

  153. LeftCenter says:

    #157 Or as Sarah Palin might call them, “The Three D’s.”

  154. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Go back to your districts and tell the people that the government won’t treat you worse than your insurance companies do now.

    ———————————————————————-
    HMOs deny care for seniors all the time.

  155. #154 comedy is my drug.

  156. Amy outside of DC says:

    #155 Made it a little more Palin like for ya.

    A FAREWELL TO ALASKA

    by Sarah Heath Palin

    I say it is the best road trip in America…
    soarin’ through nature’s finest show.
    Denali, the great one…
    soarin’ under the midnight sun.
    And then the extremes.
    In the winter time…
    it’s the frozen road that is competin’…
    with the view of ice fogged
    frigid beauty,
    the cold though,
    doesn’t it split…
    the Cheechakos from the Sourdoughs?
    And then in the summertime
    such extreme summertime
    about a hundred and fifty degrees…
    hotter than just some months ago…
    than just some months from now …
    with fireweed bloomin’
    along the frost heaves
    and merciless rivers
    that are rushin’ and carvin’
    and remindin’ us that here…
    Mother Nature wins.
    It is as throughout all Alaska…
    that big wild good life…
    teemin’ along the road…
    that is north to the future. You betcha.

  157. flombaye says:

    156: COMPUEDDEEH THETH YETH

  158. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #147: Hah! Thanks Amy!

    (SPA)

  159. shāf says:

    #159 Agreed. Also, it helps when the people telling the lies have so much concentrated media power at their disposal. The Rethugs have a hella large megaphone.

  160. Well, Social Security is an employer-based system for half its revenue. I don’t know why health care shouldn’t be.

  161. Skyhawk says:

    Repeal the Telecommunications Act!

  162. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Chris doesn’t drink. He goes home and sobs.

  163. flombaye says:

    158: here’s my guess: rick santorum, a bongo player, and a bassist, in the shower, with nathan detroit’s hot dog.

  164. WHAT????? I go to grab a cup of Dunkin Donuts and I miss a Live Blog shout out!!! DANG!!!!

  165. Dar313 says:

    Republicans only care about corporations and the rich, period. They are trying to turn America into 18th century England where the rich aristocracy ruled and were viewed as superior.It is time we stop taking crumbs from the corporate/rich man’s table. We have to get single-payer healthcare NOW! I know so many people who have NO healthcare. It is time that these voices are heard!

  166. flombaye says:

    161: they are a lot like dana carvey’s incarnation of GHWB, with the night vision goggles. “SCAREEE !! SCAREEE !!”

  167. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    #154 comedy is my drug.

    ———————————————————————-
    Amy Winehouse’s is somebody elses.

  168. LeftCenter says:

    #172 First thing we have to do is get rid of the idea of corporate personhood.

  169. Rusty says:

    #172 corporate run government is called “FACISM”

  170. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    A very Happy Birthday to the great Capt. Lou Albino.

  171. LeftCenter says:

    Who can ever forget Capt. Lou in the Super Mario Brothers Show?

  172. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #92, #98, #120: “stream of consciousness”? “stream of cluelessness!”

  173. 136 Momma belongs in Playboy. In a tastefully arraigned
    layout, full of Geometry and Theology.

    133/134 etc Detroit is French for “The Troit”

    172 Rethugs must die. They are killing us

  174. flombaye says:

    why cant steph just admit that reform is too expensive? – the nutballs who want healthcare results in return for their healthcare-subsidizing taxes are the same loons who would invest precious energy changing a flat tire in the middle of the desert.

  175. LeftCenter says:

    What do we have to do, wait for Ted Kennedy to die before we get health care, and then pass it out of guilt?

  176. shāf says:

    I’m a bit disappointed that Obama is buying the meme “We don’t want what Canada has.” I DO WANT IT!

  177. flombaye says:

    175: the first thing WE do is get rid of corporate personhood ? – is that leftcenter incorporated speaking ?

  178. 175 YES! Public Financing of elections, Kill all the lobbyists,
    Corporations can only do ONE thing and can’t own other corporations…
    Thom Hartmann spells it out on a daily basis

    179 thank you yes, Dreadful Sara is as Klewless As They Kome
    I think the prediction is right on: big early audience for a
    Dreadful Sara Show, followed by Danny Bonaduce within four days…

  179. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #125: “Don’t trust Amy Winehouse with your drugs.” My next tattoo.
    ———————————————————-
    Not a tattoo, but the post-it note on my passed-out forehead will read “put it on Amy’s tab.”

  180. LeftCenter says:

    #184 I am not a corporation! I am a PERSON! (Apologies to Elephant Man.)

  181. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Except Ann Coulter

  182. flombaye says:

    182: this chap just mentioned ted kennedy and death, and i wish the chap’d quit it.

  183. flombaye says:

    translation: he’s black

  184. Skyhawk says:

    Commandments does not equal Rights. Idiot.

  185. LeftCenter says:

    The bill of rights with all of those “Thou shalt nots.”

  186. Big Stripper Boobs for Momma! NOT! We like her just the way she is.
    See, we need to kill health care reform for just that reason

    God Wrote the Bill of Rights… Jesus loves Rethugs
    the Bill of Rights is a dangerous document it should have never
    been ratified

  187. Deb says:

    Morning all.

    My new favorite saying: “God must love stupid people because he sure made a lot of them”.

    Seems most of them are watching faux news.

  188. Momma is our drug of choice
    don’t let Amy Whinehouser near our Momma

  189. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    I’m a bit disappointed that Obama is buying the meme “We don’t want what Canada has.” I DO WANT IT!

    ———————————————————————-
    And Canada doesn’t want what we have.

  190. Playboy’s The Girls of Progressive Media
    featuring Momma, Randi, and Rachel…

  191. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Wild Thang 2

  192. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Momma is our drug of choice
    don’t let Amy Whinehouser near our Momma

    ———————————————————————-
    She steal the boxed wine.

  193. Skyhawk says:

    197 – *cue squeezy music* Oh my. That should raise circulation.

  194. flombaye says:

    194: yep. as i recall, when i moved from texas to california, the brainwattage was cut in half in both states. pasta la pizza.

  195. Rusty says:

    There was a guy on Rachel Maddows show last night who said that rethugs believe people have to be ruled with an iron fist. So Jesus Willreturn.

  196. Momma’s building a fort in the yard for her and the
    dogs, made entirely of wine boxes… oops need more
    boxes, gotta put in a family room…

  197. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #187 (appropriately): I guess soylent green is not made of corporations.

  198. 6: Baucus on your committee looks so ugly
    conservosenators almost all the time make me sigh.

    G’Mornin’ Bloggoes! :mrgreen:

  199. 200 my my my
    it will raise more than circulation…

  200. martinisherri says:

    it took me 2 weeks to find the live blog…the site has changed…nice site…but dont tell it took me that long!

  201. Amy:

    Here’s the lost verse:

    An’ if the prez
    don’t stiap maykin things up…
    we’ll separate their Cheechakos
    from their Sourdoughs!

  202. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Walking on Sunshine 2

  203. I used to think maybe you loved me, now baby I’m sure…

  204. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #201: Flombaye, are you also in La-la-land?

  205. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    I think I can hear the hamsters running in the wheel that powers the congresswoman’s phone. So much for compromise.

  206. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    After a “final” bill is written Repubs will start trying to tack on amendments.

  207. Skyhawk says:

    213- That concerns me as well. There’s bound to be a poison bill. No pun intended.

  208. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Jeez! Is Solis using the Cheney party line.

  209. Skyhawk says:

    Poison bill=poison pill.

  210. Deb says:

    #212 – yeah, kind of static filled

  211. Danielle, I’d question the notion that the rich Repubs are doing much real thinking, they certainly don’t do much long term thinking.

    The dominant feature of Repubs (other than ignorance and pride in it) seems to be greed.

  212. I was watching the News Hour last night, and the right wing weasel they had on called people leaving private insurance for the public option “bleeding” and “crowd out”. loaded language that just means people leaving the stupid evil insurance companies. I hope the crowd does go out and the insurance companies bleed to death.

  213. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    Yours was a Profile in Liquid Courage.

  214. Deb says:

    YES!! I’m wondering why people aren’t organizing a march??

  215. Skyhawk says:

    Well we certainly have enough unemployed people to turn out.

  216. LeftCenter says:

    Caller: They’re listening to the insurance companies because they give them lots of money.

  217. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #1: “…like the appeal of the rolling stones, a closely guarded secret for all these years…”

    I blame those CIA mind control experiments, I really do.

  218. WTF am I gonna do? no job, no pension, no healthcare, I live
    thanks to the efforts of others… I’m educated, experienced,
    and apparently not worth a damn to any potential employer.
    Mebbe I’ve just been mired in michigan too damned long with
    this depression we’ve been in… this depression I’m mired in
    …the money is dried up

  219. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    I have to get back in the car pretty soon and continue my trip to North Carolina. The president will be on the other side of the state, so I won’t run into traffic problems.

  220. Tony says:

    Tom Daschle is going to be on Bloomberg soon. And seeing him on there made me think…what would have happened if Daschle was the HHS secretary. No insult to Sebellius, but Daschle spent decades in the Senate. He knows how to get things done.

    What would have happened if Ted Kennedy and Daschle were working on health care?

    I think it would have been done by now.

  221. shāf says:

    Read the book “Best Care Anywhere: Why VA Health Care is Better Than Yours” by Phillip Longman. He appeared on Countdown last night.

    Segment:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/

  222. Amy outside of DC says:

    #227 So you’re wondering what if Daschle had paid his taxes? :wink:

  223. or even if you have the insurance, they refuse to pay for additional tests… damned if you do, damned if you don’t!

  224. Deb says:

    Just read a great article about Vermont too. They are putting everything on one computerized system to streamline. I think that states will start to do their own thing (and then how the heck will we get all that organized under a Gov plan?), but still progress in some quarters.

    Time for Harry to leave….

  225. shāf says:

    Harry Reid is a DINO!

  226. When exactly do we have a chance to get rid of nad-less Hairy Reid???? Yesterday would be fine my me…

  227. Skyhawk says:

    Reid=Liberman

  228. k to the g says:

    “Harry Reid is a poufter”

    Sir Sean

  229. 233. 232. 231… Harry is a Dem from Nevada. Any potential alternate Senator taking his seat will likely make us all nostalgic for Mr. Majority Leader…

  230. Deb says:

    This is why the repugs keep doing nothing put spoutting slogans and spreading hate and fear-mongering. It works on some of the populace…

  231. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    Jim should be our ambassador to Iran.

  232. LeftCenter says:

    #237 It doesn’t help that the Dems do ABSOUTELY NOTHING to counter the Republicans.

  233. I agree with Bill Maher on this — the Democrats are the new Republicans. We need an actual leftist party in this country BADLY.

  234. k to the g says:

    239. Maybe it’s all a drama for the unwashed – Good Senator, Bad Senator. They’re really the same.

  235. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    When exactly do we have a chance to get rid of nad-less Hairy Reid???? Yesterday would be fine my me…

    ———————————————————————-
    Next year

  236. The current set up is, as I say from time to time, carrot & stick. And where we’re being led is straight to poverty and disaster, while the multinationals running the scam take the proceeds and run to Dubai.

  237. I truly hate all the Rethugs in the House and Senate, but DAMNED if they don’t stick together. Even when they were voting our country down the drain as they did for 8 years. Now the Dems have a chance to unite together to actually FIX this country and THEY CAN’T FREAKIN’ DO IT!!!

  238. k to the g says:

    The Senate need ego-reduction surgery – STAT! :mrgreen:

  239. #236, that may well be – as a Senator – but Schumer would become Leader, and that’s where Reid is an epic fail.

  240. shāf says:

    #236 True, Nevada is a center-right state. But, as was demonstrated by the successful campaign of Montana Sen. John Tester, a more progressive candidate can still run in a traditionally-red state by referencing populist themes.

  241. Amy outside of DC says:

    One of the Democrats strongest traits is the ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  242. Skyhawk says:

    240 – The only way that’s going to happen is to take the money out of campaign system. Somehow I don’t think that’s likely.

  243. Tony says:

    You know, I hate to say this, but this is what I thought would happen with Obama. It’s why I supported Clinton.

    Clinton would have done what her husband did, and said eff off. You are either going to vote with me or I will run it down your throat. See his first budget, which passed without a single republican vote.

    Obama is trying to be post partisan, which makes no sense when the opposition isn’t.

    I say ram it down their throats, make them choke on it, and when they are dying and begging for help, don’t perform the Heimlich.

    And pick one person — Boehner, Cantor, whoever — and say, you know, you didn’t vote for the stimulus package so it’s clear you don’t need it. So I have directed my administration to make sure that the funds for the stimulus go to places where it’s needed and their reps voted for the package. And I’ve had my staff call all the local officials in your district to let them know why they won’t be getting any money.

    Then you call the republican leaders into the White House, and say, you people are going to sit and listen, and I am going to talk. And if you say anything, the Secret Service will be tossing you out.

    Get in my way for something that I think is important, and I will steamroll your ass. And when I am done with you, if I have anything to say about it, you won’t be able to run for dog catcher in your own house without losing. You want to play hardball? I’ll show you hardball. And you will lose.

    Now get out. Shutup, I said I’m talking and you’re listening. Get out.

  244. LeftCenter says:

    Congresswoman Shakowsky, PLEASE run for the Senate now that Roland Burris is out and Lisa Madigan isn’t running. PLEEEEEEEAAAAASSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  245. 244 this is what it’s like to live in a dying empire, such as
    Rome, or the Ottoman Empire… corruption, inability to get anything
    done, lack of anyone competent with integrity, constant squabbling,
    fear depression and uncertainty… St Augustine wrote about it,
    the history of England 1920-1940 is illustrative…

  246. shāf says:

    #249 Don’t know the state’s Dems. But, there’s got to be someone who’s better than Harry.

  247. k to the g says:

    Jan is exactly the kind of voice we need in the Seante

  248. El Cid says:

    Attention: MY PRIORITY IS THE BEST HEALTH INSURANCE / CARE REFORM AND *****NOT***** BUDGET DEFICIT FETISHISM.

    Please, DEMOCRATS, please please please STOP MAKING DEFICIT AND BUDGET TALK COME FIRST.

    As blogger Chris Hayes has pointed out, YOU’RE TAKING THE MOST IMPORTANT AND PERSONAL PASSIONATE ISSUE TO AMERICANS and turning it into GOP fake deficit hawk territory.

    THE ISSUE IS HEALTH CARE REFORM WHICH MAKES AMERICANS BETTER OFF AND, YES, HAPPIER, not getting some GOP / Blue Dog budget dorks to be happy on “Meet the Press”.

    And, yes, I know that real reform is cost savings — but get out there and fight for the needed change, damnit, and stop putting up front the deficit dorks.

  249. Karen says:

    They keep saying Social Security & Medicare will run out of $ within next 5-10+ yrs. Imagine how much $ could be saved if the very wealthy were not collecting Social Security, Medicare and Disability $. When John McCain was campaigning, he actually admitted to collecting both Medicare and Disability $. I was stunned to hear that and even more stunned he admitted it. And, now John McCain is one of the biggest and loudest opponents of President Obama’s health care proposal. I say it’s time we put pressure on everyone in Congress with letters, phone calls during their August break (what a joke).

    They need to feel enough pressure (via phone/email) from us to be concerned about being re-elected!

  250. #251, as I recall, Clinton had a Dem Congress when he tried health care reform, and didn’t get it either.

    Indeed, he actively scuttled plans already working their way through Congress so that HRC’s plan could take precedence. Not only did he fail to get it through a friendly Congress, he did it so badly that he lost that friendly Congress in the next election cycle.

    So yeah, the Clintonian competence is totally overrated.

  251. Deb says:

    #239 – your so right, especially those so called blue dogs. More like yellow dogs (but then that’s an insult to yellow labs everywhere).

  252. El Cid says:

    Think about it — do you want health care reform which gets “Meet the Press” and “This Week With George Stephanopobapobapoulos” types happy for the next few weeks, or do you want Americans so happy with the Democratic Party that we have another post-FDR style 40 years of control?

  253. Liberal Hussein Smurf says:

    On the road again. Bye, all.

  254. El Cid says:

    Do you want “health care reform” that makes Washington establishment journalists happy for 2 months or health care reform that makes Americans happier and better off for generations?

  255. I want sunshine to walk on and socialist unicorns. And rainbows including pots of gold

  256. Amy outside of DC says:

    #264 Do you have to go through Intercourse (PA) to get to Climax (MI)?

  257. Even with the Blue Dogs, Bush’s tax cuts still wouldn’t have survived a filibuster, so they did it with reconciliation.

    Which is why it’s expiring (reconciliation-based bills are valid only for 10 years).

  258. What Obama should say to the Blue Dogs…

    “Next year, do you want me in your district campaigning for you, or against you?”

  259. #266, yes, especially if you ride down the Hershey (PA) highway.

  260. 266…unless you end up in Blue Ball (PA)

  261. Amy outside of DC says:

    The product is the “smoke assasin” and it’s supposed to be the healthy option? What about the word assasin is healthy?

  262. That, and the fact that Assassin derives from the word Hashish.

  263. Those electronic cigarettes aren’t all that healthy.

  264. LeftCenter says:

    #270 Is that anywhere near Beaver Falls (PA)?

  265. k to the g says:

    225. I’m sorry. Hang in there. Your snark will get you through…

  266. Amy outside of DC says:

    #274 I believe if you can get to Beaver (PA), then you don’t need to end up in Blue Ball (PA).

  267. there are over 67,000 lobbyists in Washington,
    which equals 125 for each member of Congress
    according to ’50 Facts That Should Change the World’
    by Jessica Williams

    and you wonder why nothing ever gets better?

  268. 274…closer to Bird-in-Hand (PA)

  269. Tony says:

    Ram it down their throats. That’s what I say. Steamroll the sons of bitches. Show no mercy. Keep kicking them while they are down. No mercy, period. Make examples out of a couple of them and every single one of them will come on board.

  270. Amy outside of DC says:

    How do you debate with the likes of Michelle Bachman? Tell her beforehand that God spoke to you and is clearly on your side. That ought to fluster her beyond recognition. Maybe she’ll skip the debate as she tries to contact the Lord to appeal.

  271. #277, and without them, the traffic and housing prices would be far more reasonable.

  272. Skyhawk says:

    The Republicans today are the inmates who have taken over the asylum. There is no reasoning with them.

  273. Survey question: Michelle Bachman or Michelle Malkin?

  274. k to the g says:

    Heading for the penalty box/wine bar…maybe Michael Vick should visit the blue dogs.

  275. 275 thanks k!

    at least I’m not living in Hell, Michigan

    just my own Private hell

  276. LeftCenter says:

    Produce Chris: Isn’t health care a social issue?

  277. What would LBJ have done if he had Obama’s mandate and margins?

  278. Skyhawk says:

    283 – Castration.

  279. Deb says:

    What they call boutique insurance overseas….

  280. #280, no, they have a failsafe for that. If it doesn’t agree with what they already believe, it was obviously Satan talking to you.

  281. LeftCenter says:

    Even Republican women need penile implants.

  282. shāf says:

    BTW, Monday’s host of Countdown was Lawrence O’Donnell, a frequent guest.

  283. 280 what Michelle Bachman needs is the Goon Hand upside her head.
    You cannot have rational debate with irrational people. Those Who
    Already Know Everything are not interested in finding the truth.

    Those Who Know Where Their Bread Is Buttered like to pretend there
    are Other Reasons for what they do, or how they vote on Health
    Care Reform bills, or what kind of ridiculous lies they spout…

  284. How about paying for a few testicular transplants for Harry Reid and the Blue Dogs et al???

  285. LeftCenter says:

    I missed it Monday…at a ball game. Was O’Donnell bad?

  286. 292 — hasn’t Lawrence O’Donnell helped us get to SPARTA?

  287. Blue Dogs would not be a problem if 1) they didn’t let crooks into chairmanships (Baucus), and 2) the leadership enforced party loyalty on procedural votes.

  288. LeftCenter says:

    And now, if I time this right, it’s time for SPARTA!!!!!!!!!

  289. LeftCenter says:

    Or now: Sparta?

  290. shāf says:

    #295 Not great, but not as bad as Chris thought, apparently.

  291. LeftCenter says:

    D’oh! Congrats Richard.

  292. BOOOO YAH!!!!!!!!!

  293. shāf says:

    Oh yeah, Sparta!

  294. UhClem says:

    Guys, guys, you have to know all this crap about “Cadillac” plans is a reference to UNION plans. Plans that workers negotiated away other kinds of compensation to achieve.

  295. El Cid says:

    Reminder: We Democrats kicked Republicans’ asses over the original Social Security, and, guess what?

    Social Security has been largely untouchable — even beyond George W. Bush Jr’s 2005 attempt to destroy it — ever since then.

    Fuck Republicans. Fuck “bipartisanship”. Fuck fake “moderates”. Fuck “Blue Dogs”. Fuck “cost saving” as the highest goals. Bastards all.

  296. k to the g says:

    285. Well you certainly look suave and debonair in Steph’s parlor!

  297. shāf says:

    Way to go, Richard! *bows*

  298. And now….. on to SPARTAC!!!!!

  299. Skyhawk says:

    Nicely done Rich. Congrats!

  300. I aspire to be a Road Agent for the Lords of Karma, and as
    such my first act will be to beat down the rethug bastards
    wherever I meet them… with the opening of the case of
    whup-ass and the smiting and the chastising these filth
    so richly deserve… who knew these freaking blue dogs
    would come out of the wood werk just when we thought we
    had control of Congress and the Presidency… it’s like
    Gilligan wrecking yer hopes of getting off the island…

  301. Nice Rich! Darnit… walked away and missed Sparta!

  302. 307 — careful with the cursing, posts get deleted here sometimes. Your sentiments are appreciated, though…

  303. Deb says:

    Where can we find a list of the Blue Dogs? Would love to send them a few “thoughts”!

  304. LeftCenter says:

    #310 And that will be SPARTACULAR!

  305. Here’s a thought: SINGLE PAYER…

    Then Employeer provided (Union, Fed’s, etc) become Supplemental insurance to cover Co-Pays, upgrades and reduce out-of pocket..

  306. El Cid says:

    Okay. I’ll limit myself to faux-cursing (gosh darn and f$#%) like the comic strips!

  307. So let me get this straight…. they don’t want to spend tax payer money on health care but they will waste our scratch for a 100 page fax for no other reason than spite???? Does this piss anyone else off?

  308. So when that idiot congresswoman said this health plan was going to ‘kill senior citizens’ why wasn’t she shouted off the floor?? How can you possibly say something so unbelievably stupid?? And NOT be Michelle Bachman?

  309. LeftCenter says:

    #315 I think Bill Press has a list on his web site: http://www.billpressshow.com

  310. littul Johnny standing at the blackboard, ’2+2=’ written there,
    his answer ’3.99999999′ and the teacher is telling him
    ‘Johnny, you’re getting Very, Very close…’

  311. Tony says:

    LBJ would have brought any wavering person in and said, do you really want to go against me on this? You can, but you will pay, and you know it.

    As much as I disliked George W. Bush, he pretty much said eff ‘em if they get in my way.

    Sometimes, that is bad. But when the opposition doesn’t come to the table with anything, that’s a good approach.

  312. Richard — you know what they say: If Michelle Bachman can do it, ANYone can.

  313. El Cid says:

    FDR wanted to propose a national health care plan, but segregationist Southerners objected because (a) it would have led to the possibility of black people being treated in white hospitals (horrors!) and (b) it would have made the cheap Southern manufacturing labor force more independent and able to demand higher wages.

    We are letting the ‘Blue Dogs’ (conservative Dems) and Republicans carry on the segregationist South’s legacy.

    Thanks guys.

  314. link to outline of a logical health care reform plan…

    but that’s the problem, it’s logical there for beyond the ken of congress…

    http://cmdsinc.com/Blogs/Comprehensive_Health_Plan.pdf

  315. k to the g says:

    Fax, fax, fax those Blue Dogs. It apparently bothers them. ha ha.

  316. scooter says:

    Lawrence O’Donnell isn’t the most appealing on-air pundit in the world, however he will forever have my admiration for the beat-downs he’s delivered to Pat Buchanan on shows like Hardball. Most folks just sit there smiling when Uncle Pat spews his hate, but O’Donnell finally made it OK to yell back.

  317. El Cid says:

    LBJ — true story — had a Congressman whose vote he was counting on for a bill switch and vote against it.

    LBJ called him up and asked what the hell happened.

    The rep replied that he had wanted to vote with LBJ, but then famed TV commentator Walter Winchell had spoken out against the bill.

    LBJ replied that, “Fine, the next time you need a dam built or road extended or any other federal aid in your district, you call up Walter Winchell instead of me. Got that?”

  318. coyne says:

    its crazy to say they cant find money for heathcare. i could fix this in one hour. cut the defense budget.

  319. shāf says:

    #331 Yep, LBJ knew how to play hardball.

  320. fun quotes from the movie Jackie Brown:
    * Louis (to Melanie): “Don’t say another word.”
    * Ordell (To Louis): “You shot Melanie?!….is she dead?!”
    * Louis: “Yeah, pretty much”.

    know what I’m saying, blue dogs/rethugs…

  321. Deb says:

    The birther movement is getting traction because too many people are giving it air time as if it were legitimate.

  322. shāf says:

    Time Travel, For The Win!

  323. #333: also, have statutory lower limits on medical loss rates (97% in government plans, used to be 95% in private insurance, is now <70%). Audit physicians who order excessive tests on equipment they own (a common source of unnecessary billings). Cover all preventative care, which pays huge dividends over the long run.

  324. Jean in Santa Rosa says:

    Q. What is the difference between a Moderate Republican and a Blue Dog Democrat.

    A. The letter after their name.

  325. El Cid says:

    The birther movement gets attention because any right wing, anti-liberal and anti-leftist conspiracy theory always gets media attention.

    Actual leftists get ignored and insulted.

    Go back in the archives — any raving right wing conspiracy theory makes the headlines. Fluoridation as Communist plot, Russians are organizing our farmworkers, MLK Jr. is a tool of the Russians or Chinese, or even the Sandinistas are only 2 days’ drive from Harlingen, Texas.

  326. Rusty says:

    323 Blew dogs are close but no cigar? What exactly does that mean?

  327. shāf says:

    Damn manipulative beavers! *shakes fist*

  328. lol… I’ll agree with the manipulation line…

  329. LeftCenter says:

    Is that 86 lb. beaver stuffed or unstuffed?

  330. Deb says:

    why can’t some of these people be removed because their mentally incompetent???

  331. k to the g says:

    340. Yup. And we spend hours talking about it too.

  332. el Cid: Quick, everybody into their DeLoreans to prevent this conversation between Momma and Frisch from taking place! AND WATCH THE FLUX CAPACITORS!

  333. you know I, like many people, do not have an original copy of my birth certificate… it was lost when my mother passed away when I was a child… I only have certified copies… which say certificate of live birth… and I am very much an American citizen…

  334. Skyhawk says:

    Get your shots first Jim.

  335. shāf says:

    Jim, you’re a brave soul!

  336. hhmmmmm….. is it me or have we NOT had a single mention of Professor Gates today????

    HALLELUYAH!!!!!!

    Probably just jinxed us, didn’t I?

  337. Deb says:

    Repugs don’t believe in empathy, so they aren’t even interested in faking it.

  338. prediction for dreadful sara:
    news talk show on faux news with huge ratings for
    three days followed by replacement on day 4 by
    danny bonaduce and within a year she’s boxing tanya harding

  339. shāf says:

    Awesome meeting for robots!

  340. LeftCenter says:

    Richard, you just mentioned him. Thanks a million!

  341. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    I miss Marvin the Paranoid Android.

  342. k to the g says:

    351. I heard the cop’s story doesn’t match the 911 call tape.

  343. FABULOUS robot skit by Jim Ward!

    GENIUS!

  344. shāf says:

    Affirmative!

  345. How ’bout that other RW Michelle? The Oh-So-Yummy Ms Malkin. Sure, she spouts pure venom, but I’d love to try ‘converting’ her.

  346. LeftCenter says:

    Jim, Terrific!

  347. Rusty says:

    351 The big beer bash is tomorrow.

  348. Ah, mind- taxing time again, is it? -Marvin

  349. #356 Right, you are. I’ve already said TOO MUCH. Forget I mentioned it….. PLEASE!!!

  350. the return of the spackle or paste ad

    dreadful sara, rethugs, blew dogs…
    stuck to america’s colon wall like spackle or paste

  351. k to the g says:

    353. I see an NFL sideline stint where she gets blindsided by a wide receiver, then onto NAASCAR as commentator, then probably infomercials and then the Tonya Harding bout.

  352. Rico in Washington DC says:

    to have a top secret security clearance they do an extensive background check. ( Even a Secret clearance they check your documents) One thing being citizenship. as a senator and president (having the highest clearance in the land) any discrepancies with this would have been thorougly investigated.

  353. 361 — oh, man, she was on the Today show this morning. skin… crawling. gorge… rising. must… change… channel!!

  354. Tony says:

    Re: LBJ…I think Obama needs to channel a little less Lincoln and a little more LBJ.

    Just imagine that conversation…so, you can’t help me on health care because the editor of your newspaper wrote an opinion piece on it?

    Okay, fine. But the next time you need something done in your district, don’t call me, call him.

  355. LeftCenter says:

    Okay, so if I have that much stuff (I almost said crap) stuck to my colon wall like spackle or paste, how come it all didn’t come out when I took that stuff before my colonoscopies…and if it didn’t come out, how come I actually saw my colon wall (in my brief moments of semi-consciousness) and not a thick brown coating? Just asking….

  356. 368 i like it
    it could be a comedy routine, she gets hit by a nfl player,
    then a nascar car, then Vince Offer beats her, then Tonya…

  357. #348, also, the “original birth certificate” given people at the hospital often has no legal status, and is just for the baby book.

  358. fair warning to anyone ever considering adopting a hemmingway kittie… they are perhaps the most attention starved, needy, talkative, cats on earth and do not make working very easy… darn cat thinks my soul purpose in life is to pet / scratch/ play with him…

  359. bobhuntsman says:

    Mama missed the beaver joke about the windsock on Sarah’s mike.

  360. k to the g says:

    Box wine and Luckys for Mama and Barbara

  361. 369 thank you Rico for pointing out the obvious: Obama would
    have been most thoroughly vetted while still a Senator. The
    whole birther thing is ridiculous.

  362. Tony says:

    Danielle, I have a polydactyl bengal. And he is a wonderful loving cat, but he loves to talk, and he LOVES attention. But he is also a very intelligent and inquisitive creature, and gets into things he shouldn’t.

  363. Why isn’t Karl Rove in jail, trading sex for smokes?

  364. Deb says:

    #375 – my cat will not stay off the desk, keyboard or papers when I’m trying to work so I just give up and listen to the show and squeeze in a few blog posts.

  365. #370 I saw that too. It’s what made me mention her. I was so torn between wanting to smack her upside the head and wanting to @#$% the @#$% out of her. Very strange feeling. One of those “I don’t know if I want to cry or throw up” moments.

  366. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    “When O’Reilly and Coulter get off the crazy train before you…”

    ROTFLMAO!

    Miss Bachman, your stop’s next!

  367. k to the g says:

    373. And maybe myth-busters could do a few shows on her. Might take awhile.

  368. Deb says:

    #382 – why aren’t ALL the players from the Bush regime in jail?

  369. 386: They could use her in place of Buster…do us all a favor..

  370. 378 sportin short dresses, wearin spike-heel shoes,
    smokin lucky strikes, and wearing nylons too.
    Momma bad, she nationwide.

  371. 381… yes, mine is a poly too… 7 toes on one front foot and 6 on all the others.. very smart and inqusitive as well… has figured out on his own how to fetch like a dog, open cabinets, pick up things with his extra toes (like a thumb) and how to drive me crazy for sure…

    383… mine does the same thing… and I’m already sick and cranky and trying to work from home… a bit more difficult with a very large cat standing in front of the monitor…

  372. 382 that’s Karl Rove, in jail, being Traded for cigarettes

  373. k to the g says:

    382. prisoners worldwide are quitting smoking and prison sex just in case.

  374. shāf says:

    And… the story is complete (waffle cone, ferry, drunks, bread crumbs, seagulls, Hitch-hock movie)!

  375. TimFromLA says:

    Eewwww

  376. Hell is Republican. By substantial margin.

  377. coyne says:

    “First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win.” — Mahatma Gandhi

    i’ve decided to give this birth certificate issue a honest look. there’s something weird going on here or everybody wouldnt’t be getting so crazy over this.

  378. Steph was at Fisherman’s Wharf and DIDN’T get fish soup in a sour dough bread bowl?? You can get waffle cones ANYWHERE.

  379. Tony says:

    Uh….what? When was the last time this country exported goods and services? Uh, today?

    What the hell is wrong with people?

  380. Deb says:

    Or, no wonder Clinton did it in secret and then tried to launch it…she knew what she would be in for once the senate/congress got ahold of it.

  381. Mitch, screw you and your “bipartisanship”..

  382. 396 — here’s what’s at the heart of the birther conspiracy — HE’S BLACK.

  383. scooter says:

    Maybe Obama needs to start inviting senators and reporters into his bathroom for a little persuasive talk? I had the pleasure years ago of hearing Robert Pierpoint describe a bathtime interview with LBJ! Somehow I don’t think the LBJ style would go over so well these days.

  384. Charles Krauthummer, bite me.

  385. Amy outside of DC says:

    #390 “very large cat standing in front of the monitor”
    I think cats can’t read, but they want to. My brother’s cats love to sit on the newspaper and books, whichever you are reading, they will sit on it.

  386. 396.. like they weren’t going crazy over “Obama is a muslim” or “Obama pals around with terrorists” and those turned out to be so accurate as well…

    have fun with that… watch out when they want you to follow them off that bridge…

  387. Skyhawk says:

    It’s one of FIVE plans! The CBO looked at one.

  388. shāf says:

    I share your fear, ProducerChris. The health care lobbyists are giving each other high-fives right now.

  389. ***urge to squeeze Hannity’s hairy little helmet until it pops like the human zit he is***

    What a waste of skin Sean is.

  390. buy a crab from a fisherman on fishermans’ warf, watch him
    bring the crab up, get a loaf of sourdough… ummm heaven
    Momma can bring the wine…

  391. Deb says:

    Yeah Sean, we know who butters your toast with fake stuff – I’m sure your enjoying a nice healthy bank account.

  392. Tony- I was thinking the same thing…

  393. Amy outside of DC says:

    Or just point out that right now, the insurance companies come between you and your doctor.

  394. TimFromLA says:

    Hey Steph-chan and Mook-chan, lets then protest the V.A., the V.A. is socialist

  395. Dems don’t do catch phrases. Not sure why.

  396. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    If we Dems needs to cooperate with the Republicans, then I want to negotiate ONLY with the five most liberal Republicans in office.

    Screw the right wing obstructionists. Peel off the few moderate GOPers left.

  397. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #368: Sarah Palin on NASCAR: “Boy, watch those road-machines go!”

  398. Mark, it gets pretty cold down there. Can they separate the sourdough from..?

  399. Skyhawk says:

    398 & 411 maybe he confused it with “outsourcing” good and services.

  400. Touchy caller….. ‘It’s ROB!! I hate Bob!’ Lighten up, dude.

  401. RawHyde says:

    Question for anyone out there… Has anyone come across a grass roots movements to start moving toward funding other democrat candidates in the blue dog seats for the next set of elections? Given what was done in small donations in relationship to Obama’s campaign, I’d think they’d respond a bit quicker of they saw some organizing underway.

  402. 419 — how do you feel about the name “Dick”?

    Jus’ sayin’

  403. Deb says:

    Oh geez. The liberal media myth again.

  404. k to the g says:

    He’s reading talking points

  405. El Cid says:

    Caller is reading talking points. He is a talking point Republican.

  406. #421 But that’s TOTALLY different. Bob isn’t a euphemism for Penis.

  407. Food Fascist says:

    Be sure to be a part of the Romer Health Care Live Chat Today at Noon PT You can download the new report on how health care reform would impact small business http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/sbolinkedin/

  408. El Cid says:

    I trust politicians as much as if not more than private health care companies.

  409. k to the g says:

    you should smoke, tool, maybe your brain would wake up.

  410. Cut this guy off. I’m suddenly preferring “Touchy Rob”.

  411. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    I want to dope-slap any politician who says, “My district is conservative and they are against affordable, universal health care.”

    When this debate started, the majority of REPUBLICANS wanted health care reform.

    The conservatives turned against reform as their conservative leadership LIED RELENTLESSLY ABOUT IT.

    At conservatives told the truth about healthcare reform, conservatives would be supporting it today.

  412. El Cid says:

    Obama did not pledge to raise no taxes.

    Obama pledged not to raise federal income taxes on people making more than $250K.

    He did not pledge not to raise cigarette taxes.

    THE CALLER IS READING THE SAME MONTHS OLD REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS.

  413. coyne says:

    i’m not the lemming here. i didnt attack anyone. i just stated that i was going to look honestly at information. so … don’t forget to strap on a parachute. one more thing… have you read russ bakers book?

  414. Tony says:

    I say who gives a crap about how things go over? It isn’t going to matter.

    If Obama calls people in and does an LBJ style chat with people, and they get bent out of shape and go public, then Obama should go on the offensive.

    First, he should say it was supposed to be a private talk and off the record, and the fact that so and so disclosed information about it means he can’t be trusted.

    Then he should say that yes, he did tell those people that he would hold it against them if they didn’t help him get health care done. But that’s because it was something important, and if they did get int he way, then they’d be betraying the American public. So, yes, he did say it, and he means it.

  415. Who’s giving you trouble coyne? you want me to kick their butts for ya?

  416. 395: Hell if full of Republicans, by logical construct…

    When I die, if I am in the same place as Newt, Rush, or any of them, then I will be in HELL.

  417. Caller has some small point – Obama’s backtreaded on transparency. But on the income taxes, Obama’s plan is to do nothing: that tax increase was going to happen on its own, because it was passed through reconciliation and expires after 10 years. So far, keeping his promise. He wasn’t talking about “any taxes”, he was talking specifically about income taxes.

  418. PJ Squeezy Louise Hussein McFlavin says:

    #375: Do you mean the Hemingway cats from Key West? Those cats are lethal – don’t let them play with your hunting rifle while it’s loaded.

    (or they’re loaded … whatever)

  419. #436, “it was passed” should be “Bush’s tax cuts were passed”

  420. El Cid says:

    Ooops — I meant less than $250K.

  421. look, didn’t mean to make it personal… it just saddens me when “because other people are making a big deal out of it” is a reason for something to be credible. They’ve pulled such ridiculous nonsense out about Obama, that if we all used this thought process we’d all look at him as a socialist, communist, muslim, terrorist, etc, etc…

  422. #439, and that’s $250k taxable, not $250 gross.

  423. shāf says:

    Jeff “The Angry Elf” Sessions needs a big steaming cup of STFU!

  424. 437… LOL… about as lethal as an annoying teddy bear… since the day I got him he’s been the sweetest cat I’ve ever had… just very sure that I should be paying attention to him rather than basically anything else… and when I don’t he follows me around the house “talking” to me all about it…

  425. Do to to the blue-dogs what Grover Norquist threatens to do to any repug that votes to increase taxes…

    go after them in the Primary

  426. Deb says:

    Oh Jeff, you make my head hurt. So stupid…

  427. El Cid says:

    That is the dumbest analysis ever — Blue Dogs come from pre-assumed “conservative districts” so there’s nothing Democrats can do?

    What a lame bunch of bullshit.

    The only moment you have to choose between a conservative Democrat and a Republican is at the voting booth on election day.

    Every moment and day before that, you are free to work toward the recruitment and finding of a superior Democrat to represent this so-called ‘conservative district’.

    Anything else is an idiot declaration of surrender before even looking at what can be done.

  428. 417 Jack Nicolson’s advise to Stephanie re the cold sourdough
    from “Five Easy Pieces”… ‘I want you to hold it between your knees’
    [skates...]

  429. k to the g says:

    Love that Shat beat poem – classic!

  430. Tony says:

    Peter…Obama is correct. He won’t raise taxes on those making less than $250K because Bush’s tax cuts, which will expire soon, were for those with over $250K in taxable income.

  431. The YouTube moment didn’t last long – it had to be removed when NBC/Universal claimed copyright.

  432. Amy outside of DC says:

    #443 Annoying teddy bears can be very lethal. Suffocation (either under the bear or within a bear hug) can kill.

  433. Deb says:

    These blue dogs should think about what can happen at election time.

  434. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    “Incendiary” speech!

    The only incendiary thing about Sotomayor’s speech is that it pisses us white guys off that a wise Latina woman is, indeed, more fit to judge than the average white guy.

  435. Not all Blue Dogs are from red districts/states. Quite a few of them are from very solid blue areas, and even more from purple ones.

  436. shāf says:

    #446 YES! My discussion on Montana Sen. John Tester (up blog) is an example of electing more progressive Dems, even in traditionally Republican states.

  437. #449, where did I contradict Obama?

  438. We need a new catagory of Democrat…

    The Mad-as-hell-Dog Democrats…

  439. Amy outside of DC says:

    Can Glenn Beck get crazier? Is it a day ending in Y?

  440. 421 I think Steph should have called the caller Dick. or just toole.
    jerk, moron… something. don’t call with yer rethug talkin’ points
    any more

  441. Skyhawk says:

    Good show folks! See you tomorrow.

  442. Rusty says:

    How does sarah catch fish? By pailing them.

  443. bye all… have a good one!

  444. …. and there it was: Our daily Gategate mention. Courtesy of Glenn Beck and his Ten Flavors of Crazy. Knew it would happen.

  445. shāf says:

    Great show and blog. Have an wonderful rest-of!

  446. LeftCenter says:

    Great show. No Gatesgate. See you tomorrow!

  447. oh thank you all for being there

    hope your afternoon goes well

    drown a fever, pickle a cold Danielle

  448. Glenn Beck desperately needs to have the crap kicked out of him..

    Well, Mookinators! It’s been real.

    Don’t you ever change a thing! See ya manana.

  449. LeftCenter says:

    Oops…ALMOST no Gategate.

  450. Ron "McLovin" Luce says:

    El Cid,

    You made some really fantastic points today.

    I want to vomit on “Blue Dogs” who say “My conservative district is against health care reform, so I must be too.”

    Did the “Blue Dog” even _TRY_ to sell healthcare reform to their constituency?

    Or did they LIE about it?

  451. trojanrabbit says:

    I’m glad the Gates 9-1-1 caller didn’t do her news conference until the show was over.

  452. El Cid says:

    @ Ron “McLovin” Luce: Thanks.