LiveBlog for Tuesday, July 28, 2009
CALL AND WRITE YOUR SENATORS AND MEMBER OF CONGRESS AND LET THEM KNOW YOU DON’T WANT THE PUBLIC OPTION REMOVED FROM HEALTH CARE REFORM! FIND OUT WHO THEY ARE HERE!!!
• Rep. Ron Kind (D-WI) calls in at 6:05am Pacific to talk about health care reform.
• Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ) calls in at 8:30am Pacific to talk about health care reform.
• House Dem leaders conceded yesterday that concerns raised by fiscally Conservative Blue Dog Democrats will prevent the chamber from voting on a health care reform bill before the August recess begins at the end of the week.
• A senior administration official said Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. and Sgt. James Crowley of the Cambridge, MA Police Department will be visiting the White House on Thursday. The meeting among the three men will take place at 6pm.
• Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL), the ranking Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, announced yesterday that he will not vote to confirm Judge Sonia Sotomayor for the Supreme Court. The committee is expected to vote today on Sotomayor’s confirmation.
• Michael Jackson’s personal doctor administered the powerful anesthetic Propofol to help him sleep, and authorities believe the drug is what killed the pop singer, a law enforcement official told the AP yesterday. On June 25, the day Jackson died, Dr. Conrad Murray gave him the drug sometime after midnight, the official said.
Tags: Barack Obama, Blue Dogs, Conrad Murray, Frank Pallone, Health Care Reform, Henry Louis Gates Jr, James Crowley, Jeff Sessions, Michael Jackson, Ron Kind, Sonia Sotomayor
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Today’s a day I wish the 4th hijacked plane reached its intended target.
Stephanie, Chris, PLEASE LAY OFF THE COP STUFF! Please??
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So the post grenade I lobbed in killed the liveblog, eh?
#1 Mornin’, trojanrabbit! And good morning to the rest o’ the gang!
I agree, can we put out needed attention back on the important issues? And yes, ProducerChris’ concerns about the Blue Dogs (in both the House and Senate) slowing down the health insurance debate an prevent passage before the August recess where on-target. So, bully for Chris!
This is what really scares me…
Senate Finance Committee Dropping Dem Health Goals: AP
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/27/senate-group-dropping-dem_n_245839.html
Excerpt:
WTF?! No public option (which at best, is a stepping-stone to Single Payer)? No requirement for business to offer coverage to employees? You might as well not do anything, than to call this a reform bill. Grrrrr!
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Good morning shaf.
Hence my first comment this morning. Why do anything. If this comes across Obama’s desk he needs to wad it up and toss it in the circular file.
And let me guess what their idea of slowing cost rise is?
Limiting the amount malpractice insurance can pay out (under the insane belief that the premiums would go down).
Mornin TR and Shaf! TR- I AGREE!!! I love Steph and the Mooks, but I think my head is going to explode if I hear anymore about it… I even wrote a blog on that subject yesterday titled “Why the hell do we need 14 million google hits on the Gates arrest????”
LOL… did you guys just hear the Consumer Reports piece on Box Wine???? It was a hilariously appropriate ad for this show!
WOW- just had the perfect example of why we need national healthcare! I’ve been waiting on claim reimbursement from AFLAC to pay some overdue hospital bills and I just (like 2 seconds ago) get an email stating my insurance rep is unavailable until August 6 becuase she’s on vacation… must be nice… and apparently only she can help our group… I wonder if she would have to wait on her salary if I felt like leaving town for a couple weeks…
and she left 7/27- I get the email today- thanks lady for letting me know in advance so I could check the status of my claim…
good moanin’ – nothing else quite facilitates good moanin’ as effectively as the now well known hydroantics of these lovely characters. you get all the positive impact of verbal discluification without having to wince thru the hydroschmuckery of bill oreilly’s self-inflicted prudatory caricature assassination of human sexuality that leaves one to falafel…. TWO HOT GIRLS IN THE SHOWER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3A-j3UWlxU
and so it was just a matter of time… indeed, i do realize that for many of you, i’m about seven or ayte years late discovering some things that had already gone viral on the youtubes… please allow that for some of us, these discoveries are still new. for monetary considerations (for those of you who forgot to check the headlines, a major recession started in 1978), some of us are just now ramping up to interweb access. and so, for those not already in the slipstream of automated memeware, here’s a new development apropos the prior listed link, TWO HOT GUYS IN THE SHOWER. you can be phobic some other time. just watch it. it’s funny. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mA5ACAFApA
now, freshly equipped with this cultural background staple, i paid a visit to rick santorum, who is famously obsessed with a desire to marry a dog. i explained in detail the potential advantages of setting up a series on the youtubes called “RICK SANTORUM AND ONE HOT DOG IN THE SHOWER”, but we are presently stalled in the production stage, while rick determines who would be the best sponsor. that wienermobile crash may have come at a particularly bad time.
#8, Danielle, that is so outrageous and such a perfect IN PRESENTY TIME reason the blue-dogs are so, ah, wrong.
Hey, you slackers in the Congress, is your insurance-pharm paycheck so important that you will vote against America?
and good morning, Danielle.
Hi shaf and tj, flom.
I propose that Barack, Skip and the Sarg lift their glasses and announce they agree on a public option for health care insurance coverage NOW!
4:wadding up the useless papers and tossing them would be loudly announced by hannity (with uber-hip 1973 burn-out rock blaring to impress the young whippersnappers), as playing basketball while rome has fallen and it cant get up.
What unites the republican party is money! There are greedy democrats though they’re called blue dogs. Lets face it if money and the corporations are running our country we are living under FACISM!! The only solution is to pass legislation to take corporations rights before the law to have the same rites as persons. The people pay these clowns salaries and they work for us because we elected them to do OUR bidding. If we want healthcare they have to honor our wishes. and be the voice of the people in this matter!! WE THE PEOPLE!! MUST DEMAND NOTHING LESS!!
#3,shaf, Those headlines over at HuffPo are tough on my digestion. This whole debate is so nerve-wracking. We’re getting close and I believe Barack has contingency plans (not related to Waterloo), but how frustrating are these non-leaders?!?
I went to DD this am and heard 3 minutes of Imas. He was saying he would like Hannity to run for President.
He reported the Hawaiian official saying indeed Barack was born in their state and is a natural born citizen and his sidekick said Hawaii wasn’t a state. urg!
oh, and, I bought a box o’ joe for everyone. It’s near the fainting couch.
#15, Rusty,
RIGHT ON!!
8: strange but true: richard pryor had gone thru a deep and focused phase of self-destruction thru smoking crack, which had even his dealer(s) cringing and backing off. – richard spoke in public about that era, saying memorably something like “now, crack dealers are not by and large the most humanitarian people…”. but this was so severe, that they really did withdraw because richard would not. – and there was that time around 1980, that some credit cards started charging rates that left sicilian loan sharks just shaking their heads in disgust. – and that reminds me, whatever happened with the rumors that the 9-11 attacks had such a dramatic impact that allstate was considering actually honoring some claims ? – did anything ever come of that ? — and so, that trend in mind, i’m sorry to hear that you were tricked into using aflac. they really are a waste of space.
11: “COMPUE THETH YETH”
Good morning, BloggenMooksters! I hope you are all doing well.
I’m hoping for a show today without any discussions of Professor Gates’ ordeal.
And I really am sick and tired of our Democratic Party being such a wimpy crew. And I knew but saw it confirmed that the insurance and pharma industries (along with the oil companies, financial industry, and a dozen other large international concerns) OWN the Dems as well as the Republicans.
It’s disgusting. I had to turn off MSNBC this morning, Morning Joke, hearing Mitch McChinless started to turn my stomach. You see, the stimulus simply didn’t work! Never mind that only 10% of it has actually be spent so far.. And Mitch said the +$700 billion bank bailout had worked JUST FINE. Damn what a miserable Republican turd the man is.
Hell is going to be full of Republicans.
I watched the new Yes Men movie last night, which confirms my contention that pure greed is the only driving force in the world that apparently matters.
#21 I hate to sound like some of the Libertards that call the show, but at times like these, I really don’t see much difference between the Dems and the Rethugs. Both are awash in corporate campaign dollars and seem more than willing to ignore the people they were sent to Washington to serve.
21: but all dogs go to heaven. clearly, they know better than to go where they’ll get dog turds all over their “bruno ugly” shoes (that they would never own).
here’s a series of pictures of Barack and Michelle; it’s so nice to see mommy and daddy getting along so well.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/united-front-first-couple_n_245954.html
Morning, all. Steph’s probably going to be tired this morning. She was up late walking her bridal trail with a flashlight, atttempting to communicate with the men on her future husband list.
23: special edition WALKENIZED twilight zone:
“hey, you know that book they brott with them from that other planet, the one packed with all the measuring cups and the exquisite calphalon cookware, entitled “TO SERVE MAN, ALONG WITH SOME FAVA BEANS, AND A FINE AMARONE CHIANTI” ? – yeah, well, the thing is, that’s a cookbook.
#21 Republicans are creating hell on earth for some of us now.
27: check out page 158: great picture of rick santorum holding nathan’s hot dog.
Danielle, I reach on your experience with the insurance company. We went through this “she’s on vacation and no one else can handle your case” crap with my mother when she was dying of cancer. At one point, I left her a message, “I sure hope you don’t die, Lady. No one else can handle my mother’s file.” Ultimately, I complained to the state insurance commission about it – another Pissing In the Wind experience..
28: would you rather be left floating in limbaugh ?
#21 I hate to sound like some of the Libertards that call the show, but at times like these, I really don’t see much difference between the Dems and the Rethugs. Both are awash in corporate campaign dollars and seem more than willing to ignore the people they were sent to Washington to serve.
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I try to remind myself that they’re not all bad on both sides of the aisle. But watching the debate about health care just reminds me that most of them are. But not enough people are willing to vote for third party and independent candidates to change things, yet.
Wild Thang
30: “Ultimately, I complained to the state insurance commission about it – another Pissing In the Wind experience..” — grammar cop sez: “INTO”.
Steph has a BRIDAL trail? Isn’t that a long piece on the wedding dress. No that’s a TRAIN. I think Ms. Miller also has a BRIDLE trail.. ;->
Good morning, live blogospherians!
Somebody better start twisting some blue dog arms…and FAST! Otherwise, the health care may once again be a pipe dream.
Walking on Sunshine
I’m just here for the fart jokes.
32: and yet, it is only thru the linguistic convention of politeness, that something can be completely one-sided and still be labeled as a “debate”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02zpXmFEUaY
It’s Miller Time!
It’s Miller Time, y’alls!
Morning peeps! Agreed LC I say we get a Sgt. of Breaking Arms to smack down some blue dogs.
Blue dogs make it complicated.
Congress should have its insurance coverage deleted and replaced with what they come up with for the American People. These people are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. They’ve got theirs, screw the rest of the country.
Pissing Upwind, maybe. As opposed to downwind, which you can do in a large two-door GM car from the 1960s, at 70 MPH on a Texas highway. Open the door partially and a vortex is created which just whisks everything out. Ask me how I know that. (Not for the ladies, obviously.)
Health care reform is starting to sound more like a boondoggle.
I AM SO MAD! WTF!! Single payer, NOW!!
I’m not buying it, Rep. Kind!
So Rep. Kind, DO you favor a public option?
43: especially after rick santorum blew dogs in the shower.
Thanks for your answer? LOL
F-ing double-talking Democrats, I’m thinking of leaving this party.
32; Check # 15
44 – Congress should have its insurance coverage deleted and replaced with what they come up with for the American People.
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Amen to that, however, absolutely nothing would get done if that were the case. They don’t want theirs watered down, even though it’s what we’ll eventually get.
#45 Yep. Just another hand of Three Card Monte!
51: let me guess… you dun brung yer own lampshade ?
#51 Not all of them are are double talking. Mostly blue dogs are.
What the hell is he talking about?
54: where are these other two cards you speak of ?
I really don’t care what Republicans want. I care about the blue dogs screwing it up and giving us essentially NOTHING!
where was michele block-man hatched ?
Looks like health care reform is going down the tubes again.
Public option!!
My senators both favor the public option.
limbaugh will continue to blame obama for never mentioning how spending three times as much as needed, without commeasurate healthcare output, makes this the greatest healthcare system in the world.
I feel like Marthe Keller in “Bobby Deerfield”: “Do you vant to scream?”
Maybe we can get Michael Vick to whip the blue dogs in shape.
54: maybe they’ll incorporate stephy’s hair-standing-up reaction, which normally is just a reaction to the full moon, with the three card monte, to establish a full monte.
The problem is that the blue dogs represent their districts…and their district tend to be rural and not very progressive. I’ll bet you a lot of them have spent some time at the C Street house or whatever that place is.
There’s our problem in a nutshell. Unfortunately, while democrats do have a majority, a lot of the people in that majority come from areas that aren’t going to go along with much of the progressive agenda.
#68 Some of them have lived there.
Harry Reid needs to slink away and give his job as majority leader to a Democrat.
Leave it to Democrats to F it up!
This “compromise” sounds like the “compromise” on the filibuster.
Yes! Medicare Part D (the drug benefit) is a disaster. The legislation did not allow the government to negotiate directly with the drug makers (like they can in the V.A.). What a joke!
66: amazingly, in an act of this world record breaking cowardice, michael vick has fully dodged any consequences by filing bankruptcy. vick is just not up to the responsibility.
#70 I’ve said for a long time that Reid is a DINO, and he’s proving it once again.
Public option!!
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It’s been removed. It will almost impossible to put it back in.
#70 I’ve said for a long time that Reid is a DINO, and he’s proving it once again.
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As long as the DLC is running the Democratic party this is what we’re going to get.
Morning All…. is it safe? Is the “Gatesgate” blather over with? I really can’t take another day of it.
Cafepress has some nice Romney 2012 stuff. He’s a giant jerk. But at least he’s open about it. Unlike Harry Reid, who pretends to represent us.
over the weekend, I saw a documentary on Vlad the Impaler. In order to make his citizens more ready for war (he occupied the land between the Ottoman Empire and the Habsburg Empire) had all the sick, elderly, lame, and otherwise disabled people brought to his castle, where they were killed. So the republican idea of killing the sick and elderly isn’t really a new idea. Hitler did the same thing.
73: for about the last 30 years, the attempts to monopolize and monetize all medications, have predictably stimulated resurgence of “witchcraft”. hemp is only part of the story. excepting the modern miracles related to sterilized-environment high speed trauma surgery, it gets harder and harder every day to see where the “medical” community fits into the real community. – it really makes more sense for the lot of them to get jobs and pull their fair share, rather than weigh down the working caste with their antiquated bolshevik guilds.
You know, maybe we’re arguing about the wrong thing. Maybe we should be arguing about what Massachusetts is doing. Instead of a fee for service plan, they want to set up an annual payment per patient.
That will cut costs, and make insurance more affordable. If you’re a doctor who knows that he’s going to get x dollars per patient no matter what, then that will likely keep them from sending patients in for test after test.
Get that done, and maybe we don’t need a public option at that point.
Caller: “I don’t belong to an organized political party. I’m a Democrat.”–Will Rogers
‘Twas ever thus.
If the Dems do screw us on health care, I’ll be voting straight Repub in the mid-term election.
When the Dems comeback home during their recess, turn out, fire hard questions and demand reforms. I hope more unemployed citizens show up and state their case.
#84 Yeah, like that’ll make things all better.
30… what’s even more insulting…
I have an HSA (which is Bush’s shitty idea that not only should I pay a hefty premium every month, but I should also pay 100% of the contracted rate for treatment until I reach my $1500 deductible.) so, when I was going through a lot of health issues a little while back I needed to have multiple MRIs, a spinal tap, many neurological tests, etc… and I couldn’t afford it… SOOOOOO
This same vacationing lady convinced me to go to the ER, because my AFLAC policy should pay me $500 per visit. Thus, with the deductible technically “met” (just not actually paid off to the dr) the ER should have been no cost to me, but additional $ in my pocket.
Instead, I racked up the whole $1500, this same lady then stated she didn’t think AFLAC would pay the claim because it didn’t fall under the exact terms for an ER visit, and the extra (unnecessary) ER visit left me with a $750.00 bill. Then she tried to not even bother submitting my claim to AFLAC..
Well, I work in Insurance (kind of) and I write appeals often, so I was appalled she didn’t even submit the claim. No denial, nothing to appeal. So I had to demand she even submit the claim. Now, right about a month later when she should be giving me the status of the issue, she goes on vacation and notifies my office the day after she left… nice..
I welcome anyone who doesn’t think we need healthcare to trade places with me for a few weeks. Nothing like trying to worry about whether you really need that extra test to prove you have MS, but can’t get it because the insurance company has voted with the DR saying it “COULD” be just stress… and out of pocket it would cost thousands…
RATHER HAPPPY CHRIS!!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
Breaking News: Big Mac, best burger…ever!
Source: McDonald’s.
“Generally left unsaid amid all the citations is that the Lewin Group is wholly owned by UnitedHealth Group, one of the nation’s largest insurers.”
Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/24/imorning-joei-allows-gues_n_244320.html
84: are there any “straight” repugs left for you to vote for ?
#84 Yeah, like that’ll make things all better.
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Throwing both major parties out would be a big step in the right direction.
84: are there any “straight” repugs left for you to vote for ?
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Only the unresponsive members of both parties. I’m happy with my Democratic Representative and one of my two Democratic Senators. The one I’m NOT satisfied with is only because he was appointed by Blago.
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Maybe this country isn’t worth saving. Hasten the fall into the abyss.
#93 was in reference to #91
Did anyone catch CCN this morning? They had one of those Blue-Cross Dem on and was asked that without a public option in his district. alot of these people would lose their ins., he had a dumb look on his face, and couldn’t answer the question
Harry Reid has no stamina or balls! I say replace old Harry with a Dem with a pair.
#94 Great…I’ve got a pension from the state coming when I retire. I can’t afford the country to fail.
Those Blue_cross Dems will only go on show that they know wouldn’t ask them hard question. That’s why I was so suprised, this from CNN king of softball questions
This caller is pretty naive. If President Obama did what this caller suggests, Reid and Pelosi would do everything they could to make sure Obama loses in ’12.
Johnson knew where all the bodies were buried.
Lewin Group
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/22/AR2009072203696.html
Hey….but good news….Barney Frank will take care of exec comp.
Uh, yeah, good luck with that.
89: there is such a thing as overthinking the health care reform options. rush says nobody will have choices, that doctors will be assigned to patients…. therefore, it is clear that everybody WILL have choices.
Chris Dodd needs to go.
at one point the embattled chief of the LA police was named gates, Bill Gates’ company, Microsoft, was being sued for monopolistic practices, and the head of either the FBI or the CIA was named Gates and he was in trouble for something. It’s interesting how the name Gates keeps coming up.
Caller: BINGO!
You bastards!!!
When the bluedogs say they want to get it right. What they mean is the lobbying contributions from the insurance industry right into the bank.
Oh my God, they killed Kenny!
You bastards!
I miss Kenny dying on South Park.
106: and the “heaven’s gate” cult, loosely based on the wisdom of homer simpson, depended on AFLAC to resurrect them.
God is coming, and she’s p*ssed!
#97 Russ Feingold for Sentate Majority Leader!
meant “Senate”
We are in trouble. Chris just asked Steph to hold him. That’s the first sign of the apocalypse.
Well, as I’m fond of saying, “Half an ass is better than none.” And it looks like if we get health care reform, it’ll be a half-assed program.
113: she gonna open up a winebox of “smite thee” on some white folks ?
More specifically, the Lewin Group is part of Ingenix, a UnitedHealth subsidiary that was accused by the New York attorney general and the American Medical Association of helping insurers shift medical expenses to consumers by distributing skewed data. Ingenix supplied UnitedHealth and other insurers with data that allegedly understated the “reasonable and customary” doctor fees that insurers use to determine how much they will reimburse consumers for out-of-network care.
#111 What?? Have they stopped doing that joke? I guess they were kind of running out of ways to do him in every episode.
#115 I’d like Feingold to run the Sentate, too.
Time for the ultimate option – boycott everyone – that mean Blue Cross AND Blue Cross Democrats alike.
If the rethugs had their way, health care reform would be the lead option. One gun, one bullet to the head. That way the NRA is satisfied.
116: well, with the constant proliferation of scandals, it’s fair to ask, who’s your leaderhosin ?
Slim seduction? Ashley Madison first, now this?
Americans are collectively a reactionary people. We are not progessive in terms of solving social, political, or economic problems. We always wait until a catastrophic situation arises before we take any actions to make significant changes. If you look at the history of our country, this is pretty much the case. The last time we saw such changes was during the FDR era, and I don’t see anything now that shows our politicians are inclinded to make any changes now.
119… you’re soooooooo right… It’s so obvious in the industry that what they were doing was illegal that as soon as I heard that “reasonable and customary” BS line, I would challange it with an appeal stating the hospital’s charges are within reasonable and customary guidelines and thus subject to payment. Every one of these claims got overturned because they knew if they argued there was a greater risk of getting caught…
Re: Campaign contribution reform. Let’s accept that each corporation has the same rights as an individual. Then let’s limit each corporation’s political contributions to that of an individual. This would include money spent by lobbyists.
126: as famously observed after the korean involvement, very good at planning for the last war.
At a lobby day for the Natural Products Association, we were given studies by the Lewin Group that essentially left you believing that if Americans would just take supplements, we would not have a bad a health crisis as we do. For example, they said if everyone got the right amount of calcium, we would save 13-14 billion in broken bones, hips etc. Actually, this corroborates with at least one college text in nutrition, however the same text that makes light of persons worried over their food is organic or not. So when they presented their studies, I had no reason to believe there was anything sinister with the Lewin Group. It is interesting to learn more about them of course as…I am….the Food Fascist – [ and would direct you to dark leafy greens and raw organic milk and then yes, along with Harvard Studies to supplement with calcium if you are a middle aged male OR female.
#126 Agreed. It’s a case of “If not now, when?” for issues like health insurance reform, campaign finance reform, the environment, etc.
The press needs to expose more the the excesses of the past eight-plus years. We need to get Frangry!!!!!
Mornin’ blog.
If we don’t get a public option for heath care, then 2010 will be 1994 all over again because the Dems will have betrayed their own base again.
#131 The press has become corporate spokespersons.
I have written both of my Senators. I am really pissed. I plan to write the President as well.
81/122/127: boycott is perhaps too limiting a paradigm – the crap going on under nixon had me looking at “medicine” in terms of basic self-defense. twas ever thus.
133 — that happened in 1932, LC
Oh, BTW!
G’marnin’ Bloggoes!
Sunday on meet the press Hillary was asked by David Gregory what the difference between this try for healthcare for all is from 1993. She answered; In 1993 30% of people paid for their own insurance and 70% got healthcare through their employer. Now 70% pay for their own healthcare and 30% get it through employment. Good News THE TIDE IS TURNING!! I’m too lazy to type it again but look at at todays entry #15
Not voting at all is the worst thing people could do.
#132 The problem is, our political system is biased to the two major parties. So, it’s the case of “which is the least objectional… Dems or Repubs”. At least, there is a notion that we can change the system from the inside with the Dems.
meant “objectionable”
So if they pass SOMETHING won’t that be better than NOTHING??? Even if it is a watered-down version of what we really need. I never imagined we’d get Universal Health Care overnight. Right? Throw me a bone here.
129: I wonder if the bird flu will be the catastrophic event that spurs health care reform?
139… I agree! We don’t need a nation of Kyle’s..
Chris’ growl sounds like Barf in “Spaceballs”.
I worked for Healthcare Executives, Sr. VP and CEO level. These people only care about PROFITS and their salaries. Trust me, my boss made $500,000 per year, I made $38,000. WTF? They have lobbiest, and corporate plans to defeat everything that get in the way of profit.
139: in that case, i’ll vote for krystol/palin
Chucky LettuceSmasher!!!!
140: the same problem that got yahweh into acceptable-with-grumbling stead with the israelites.
You know, every time I see something like this happen I think that H.L. Mencken and P.T. Barnum are being proven right.
There is a sucker born every minute and the American public is stupid.
most people don’t have $81K no matter what’s wrong with them…
Time to switch the theme music for the show again!
That’s great… If you had $81,000.
What about the rest of us?
What we need is more personal stories to get out there. The news media is obviously not going to help out on this issue. Any suggestions?
We certainly found a trillion to misdirect our military to the wrong country.
I think it is time to switch back to the old theme song. I know I am not walking on sunshine right now and I am not going to take it any more.
Have to run, Kids. Have fun.
SWMBO has invoked me to tasks.
Hasta!
143: at the very least , it may reunite big bird with burt, who’s been rather lonesome with no boytoy to tussle with, out on the island of misfit toys. sure, fondle-me-elmo comes by to visit once in a while, but a guy needs some real conversation.
153… I take it that pissed you off just as much as it did me… if I had $81k, maybe I’d have some F**KIN test results by now…
156… I AGREE!!!
144: a nation of kyles ? – absurd. less kyles ! – more trigs !!!
142
No, because what they’re leaning towards is compulsory insurance but they’ll still not cover pre-existing condtions. Why should I be forced to buy something that WON’T COVER ME.
Food fascist does same thing this caller does. Alt health as East West accupuncture, herbalism. These are actual people who actually care and study actual food as medicine, on a knowledge base of thousands of years. Western medical students simply tell you what color pill to take. Take your health care premiums and buy good food, herbals and wellness Drs.
155
No, we printed that trillion.
159 — Danielle, I was like Well, good for friggin’ you! I don’t know how prevalent they are elsewhere, but there’s a breed of self-important “I’ve got mine” pseudo-liberal around here that brings out my desire open that can of Heinz Whip Ass I’ve got in the back of my larder. And there she was, just calling in to the SMS and making my skin crawl.
151: onstar, help !!! – an armored car just spilled a bunch of bags of gold and platinum on top of me !!! —- “dont worry maam, we’ll dispatch an AFLAC representative to mop tha–” — “THEY’RE HERE ALREADY. THANK YOU, ONSTAR !”
Good morning bloggoes and blogettes!
Coming soon to the drunk stack: my alma mater is America’s top party school, says the Princeton Review (told you so)!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2009-07-27-princeton-best-colleges_N.htm
Party over here, party over there! Go Penn State – we’re number one!
Ah, coffee.
155: please dont impugn dear leader for playing it safe. after all, there was no green zone in bekaa.
The insurance companies would love it if you were legally required to buy their crappy products, and the government would pay for those who can’t afford on their own.
165… I know she meant well with her point. That you have to pay for it yourself if you want good health options, and that it shouldn’t be that way. But there are too many that are in positions like I am. Where I need additional tests and treatment, but I have weigh out whether I’d like to buy groceries this week or if I should have that last MRI… and of course, my doctor will treat me and bill me, but considering I already owe more than I can pay, why would I want to stress myself out with more debt… especially since the only crappy answer I’ve gotten so far is “Maybe it’s just stress”… Yeah, sure dipshit, I’m a 26 year old female with 4 different neurological issues on my left side… the same side I happen to have lesions in my frontal lobes… but sure, it’s just freakin’ stress!!!!!!! WOW I AM SOOOOOO PISSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
162: because taxation without representation…. WORKS ! no course in economics is complete without a screening of “amistad”.
164, we don’t print money anymore, the Fed prints it and we pay them to use our country’s money.
After 3000 people die from a terrorist attack, we launch into war mode with billions $ being spent on blood lust. Tens of thousands of people die yearly from lack of health care. The flu of 1918 killed over 40 million world wide. If some repug’s kid is in school with a kid from a family without health care when a flu pandemic breaks out again, then I wonder…
http://www.citizensforapublicoption.com/
I’m there, baby!
163: the time has come for a major tectonic paradigm correction. the things that WORK for maintenance and restoratio of health ott no more be labeled as “alternative”. you are barking my language.
It’s:
http://www.citizensforapublicoption.com/
#174 Well, the server is busy (that’s a good sign!)
citizensforapublicoption.com — server flooded. may take some time to get on the site — keep trying!
174 / 176… I think we just overloaded that server with all the SMS fans signing the petition!
We all need a good laugh….. Caribou Barbie right on CUE!!!!!
just ginsbergian enuff to turn michael allen wiener quasi-hetero.
#178: server flooded – ah, but by whom?
What a crunchy montage!
meet sarah palin’s own henry higgins:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHiPrVfdgM
Shane-o, I see another whiskey and coke in the future… seems we often run into each other on a particular point!
We think, therefore we vote (Democrat).
I lost the website for a minute there.
I wonder if she’ll (Palin) will name her next kid Troglodyte – Trog for short?
Well, what comes out of Palin’s mouth is mostly scat.
Here is a coop someone spoke ‘okay’ about in the green960 live blog last evening- http://www.ghc.org/
I eat but I don’t hunt. Maybe that should be “I eat therefore I go to the grocery store?”
Palin left out the part about how she butchers wolves.
#185 great minds and bloodshot eyes
What I’m wondering is if Sarah Palin eats wolves.
I counter your fart.
Yeah…. I’ll “research” this theory for them.
Red wine makes women horny??? Seriously?? They needed research to figure that out??? I’ve been trying to give all my guy friends a head’s up on that one for YEARS!!!
194 — That there wolfmeat’s got to be pretty gamey. Needs a really strong-flavored sauce.
Let’s consult Ted Nugent’s Kill It and Grill It cookbook…
Writer is actually pretty on-target… the Gatesgate really is more about blue-collar cop versus Ivory Tower professor. Most people are taking sides based on whether they consider themselves more blue collar or white collar.
Red, Red wine
Was that actually the journal for no sh*t sherlock??
I’d like to have Steph as my lab parter during the wine testing.
Wow…I’m watching Bloomberg right now, and Margaret Brennan is doing an interview with Mort Zuckerman. He says that the unemployment numbers are worse than reported, and that things are going to get worse. He said that commercial real estate is the next bomb to go off.
Not good.
Keep the faith! Now’s the time to double our efforts and call our Congress Weenies. Obama needs to start knocking some heads ala LBJ!
We can still pull The Public Option out of the fire, but we gotta work to make ‘em do it.
Yes I want funding for a study to determine if domestic red wine is more effective than imported red wine for sexual sensitivity.
192: Wolf meat is supposed to be very tender, especially after you chase it to exhaustion in a helicopter.
Actually red wine just alter perception and vision so guys are more likely to get lucky
#170 Hey Danielle I really liked the poem you wrote the other day I’m a disabled person who is on SS And medicare part a and b Why don’t you go for disability through social security? You get benefits and you will not have to pay for shitty healthcare plans that only one person can work on your case. Just get a lawyer or you can apply yourself. They will hear your case and you may qualify. Good luck!
203… I think we all already knew that about the unemployment numbers… with the changes made by Clinton / Bush… but that’s a shame about the commercial realestate… **shaking head**
#197 Alas, red wine tends to make men SLEEPY. Can’t fully explain it, but bourbon works best for me.
203 — look around your town… Empty office parks? Retail space with a “available for lease” in the window? We’ve been overdeveloping for years…
#205 – they also need to add a control group on dog pain-killers
When Officer Crowley gets to the White House, he’ll probably ask to see President Obama’s birth certificate.
The bigger fight is when they reconcile the house version (with a public option) with the Senate version (without).
Keep calling, brethren.
PER Harvey Wasserman: Today, July 28, 2009, Leonard Peltier goes before the Federal Parole Commission in Lewisburg, Pennsylvania. As you read this, all over the world, beginning in the wee hours of the morning in the South Pacific, prayer vigils, peace marches, ecumenical gatherings, group chantings and all forms of individual meditation accompany this hearing. It is one of the most important tests of the new Obama Administration.
Peltier was charged more than a third of a century ago with the murder of two FBI agents. The circumstances of the prosecution, and the legal history of the case, involve thousands of pages of missing evidence, compromised witnesses and procedures so twisted as to stagger the imagination and leave any sense of fair play and reasonable jurisprudence buried in the dust. http://www.aimovement.org/
#206 You’d think helicopter-chased wolf wouldn’t be as tasty, since the wolf’s muscles would have gone anaerobic after a while. But, perhaps I over-analyze.
Yay, swirly music!
How much is it red wine making women horny versus red wine making the men look really attractive?
Die Another Day?
“too crazy for manson” is pretty harsh. that guy was into bing crosby.
pasta la pizza.
In a few minutes I have to get in the car and drive to North Carolina. Not looking forward to it.
#218 Whatever works, Amy.
208… partly because I don’t yet have a diagnosis… so nothing would get approved through disability… but sometimes you just know… my mother had MS, and I’m going through the EXACT same issues she went through… just can’t get anyone to listen…
also, I literally am 1 week away from a double major degree for bus. mgmt / market and would like to use the education I’ve paid for…
Lastly, and probably the most honestly, I’m scared to get the official “label”…
thanks a lot about the poem… I’ve been trying to update the blog daily but mostly it isn’t poetry… I have a few poems half way completed that will probably be up soon after my graduation..
Manson/Spector knocks ‘em dead … it would be a crime not to buy their stuff. I’m just waiting for their album of Johnny Cash prison songs.
216: You’re right. Too much lactic acid. Yuk!
#218 It’s one of those moot point chicken/egg type arguments …
203 — look around your town… Empty office parks? Retail space with a “available for lease” in the window? We’ve been overdeveloping for years…
———————————————————————
The mayor’s brother gets a contract to build.
Commercial real estate should be in trouble — it’s shameful how perfectly good developments were half-empty but people still built brand new office parks and store plazas when everything was in the upswing. All that land cleared for nothing.
I think towns and cities should make it hard to get new permits for new building — and instead make it easier to re-hab old plazas and office/industrial parks.
#224 The birth of the “Barbedwire-Topped Wall of Sound!”
#227 Downtown Columbus also has an abundance of vacant office space. Condo market is also soft (dare I say,’flaccid’?)
Manson was in prison at the time the Monkees were being formed. He did write one song that was recorded by the Beach Boys. Other than that, his musical resume is pretty short.
228… I think that’s what went wrong in my area… over construction.. it’s just a shame that virtually everyone I knew in the industry was out of work for a long time… but I can say it’s slowing picking up here as stimulus money is trickling in. We’ve started some highway and public building work that has employed at least a few of my friends…
I’m on my way to NC. Bye, all.
bye smurf… drive safe
Peltier will likely be locked up for a while longer. The crap storm over releasing him would make the dustup over the Gates incident look like a picnic.
Danielle well if things get too crazy SS might be an option
Vaya con carne Smurf.
#78, the irony is, now that the tapes of Gates’ arrest have been released, and the degree to which Crowley has been shown to be lying in his police report, we actually have something to talk about!
Such is the nature of the news cycle.
Bye Smurf. Safe travels!
236… I know. My mother used it. I guess it’s just to “real”….
231 — went and checked, because I was remembeing the Helter Skelter thingie happening in 68 and the Monkees being formed in 65. You’re right, though, he was in from 60 to 67. I don’t think him having a successful music career would have done anything good in the long run. I think, for whatever reason, Manson was just a bad egg.
I will agree with Bill O Reilly in that the right have no basic education on what health care reform is about altogether and we must bear the few hours it would take to put a simple power point together or promote pieces like ‘Sick around the world’ at pbs.org.
Every college student can put one together to educate their class mates, surely our leaders ought to be able to bring those that do not understand the need for health care reform, the basics, and bring them up to speed. And certainly, we should not be allowing disinformation to interfere with what we need and want. In this, it would not be unreasonable to have case studies to reveal. For example, the City of San Franciso’s shot at a universal health care is not working so well and the Massachusetts a disaster [ well thx to Mitt Romney]. Mike Papatonio had some reasonable strategies this past Saturday on Ring of Fire. Start, he says by ferreting out the inefficiencies in the system, as we are doing with mileage standards. Pitifully slow, but until we stop attacking the other side for how stupid they are and become teachers, we will just be hampsters spinning the same wheel.
hullo
wow 241 posts with an hour and a half to go… you bin busy
caller, although my heart goes out to you, this can no longer be an issue because of EMTALA- emergancy medical treatment act of labor act… meaning a hospital cannot delay needed treatment for insurance purposes (in a very small nutshell at least)
243 — Hi, Mark. See what not talking about Skip Gates will do?
hey mark!
I’m frustrated. I signed that online petition at least a couple of weeks ago, and they only have something like 70,000 signatures, now. Sign that petition! http://www.citizensforapublicoption.com
But Mama, how will we find out the finer points of toe sucking if you don’t have Dick Morris on?
QUICK! Get Dick Morris some punctuyation … STAT!!!
241 Charlie wasn’t a bad egg, he was a government program.
Consider: he spent almost his entire adult life institutionalized.
Manson, the SLA, the Zodiac Killer, the Hillside Strangler… good
chance any and all were the products of CIA mind kontrol ops.
State Terror, Strategy of Tension… make the people beg to a Police
State
or not
what do I know?
That should have been “punctuation”
hi Maddy, Danielle, evveyboddy… hope you’re all doing well
247: one more right here
#250 Not just his adult life. Manson is (in part) a result of years of poorly supervised juvenile detention centers. He might have had less rage and anger if he hadn’t been raped as a boy.
I see similarities between Dick Morris and John Leguizamo’s Clown character from Spawn
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3321600256/tt0120177
We are the United States of Monopolies.
Want to be on a health care conference call with Organizing for America [the group that uses barackobama.com as a web site and is his organizing arm].
Register at the link below.
http://myaccount.maestroconference.com/?pin=193131&q=conference/register/197BFFWJP024JSLE
Danielle it’s like the song goes “Different strokes for different folks”
#249 Snotty Boy Morris is going to teach Obama about civility and popularity.
Dick Morris is Speed Buggy!
And so on and so on and skoobie doobie doobie…(or something like that)
caller Obama is being a wimp?
How about Congress is so corrupt and in the pockets of Big
Pharma and Big Insurance.
Thom Hartmann is right: Corporate Personhood is killing us.
Bucky Fuller wrote about the dangers of Corporations ruling.
Hazen S. Pingress, Mayor of Detroit and Governor of Michigan
spoke out against Corporations… in 1888 or so
“Corporations seeking franchises find it necessary to elect
dishonest men to public office.”
’bout said it
You know, just for S&Gs, I did some poking around GE’s jobs website. And they do have jobs, and quite a few good ones. The problem is that for most people, these jobs are out of reach. You cannot take a construction worker who lost his job because housing starts have plunged and put him in an ad sales job that requires 18-24 months of internet ad sales experience.
I may apply for them, because I’ve got what GE wants. But for so many people, it’s tough.
Producer Chris, I will agree the live blog is really cool, but it’s not new anymore, is it? Time to record a new commercial.
#262, I think the caller has a point. Obama’s been very late out of the starting gate on using the bully pulpit.
Not to say that everything you wrote isn’t true as well.
254 — my point was not whether Manson was born bad or created — I’m sure his relationship with his father is where it all began and there are lots of factors that excalated his anger and agressiveness over the years. All I was saying was that by 1967, when he was trying to break into the music business, it was far too late. There’s no way that the music business — I swear to ghob, who could be saved by the music business — was going to mean anything to Charles Manson but another means to his own angry, hateful, poisoned ends.
#264 I thought it was “nude” live blog … and here I sit with no pants …
Isn’t it funny how cute this anti-colonial song has become?
254 “rape based trauma” — one of the major parts of CIA mind kontrol
crap. I didn’t know about Charlies early life… thanks
Donald Defreez was an inmate at Vacaville Prison where the CIA
conducted MKUltra programs… the tip of the iceberg
War on Us by our own elites
Gates/Crowley Is NOT About Racism
With their coverage of the Gates/Crowley incident, the myopic corporate media is fighting the last war, not the next one. In this instance, America’s history of ethnic profiling and Police mistreatment of minorities is not the troubling issue. I do not believe that Sergeant Crowley is a racist or that his treatment of Professor Gates is a product of racism.
This unfortunate event is a symptom of a new affliction permeating Law Enforcement; the impetus for Crowley’s actions was Authoritarian Machismo.
Since 9/11, our law enforcement departments have become more and more authoritarian. In his training, Serpent Crowley learned to regard ever perpetrator, regardless of race color creed or national origin, as a potential enemy of the State. Police officers see themselves as front line foot soldiers in the struggle to protect the Fatherland.
Professor Gates was upset and rightly so. Who wouldn’t be? He is in his own home and confronted as if he were a criminal; even after he proves his identity. Did he shout at Crowley? Yes. Did he accuse Crowley of racism? Probably, but unless he pulled a gun, knife or other weapon and physically threatened Sergeant Crowley, Professor Gates did not break the law.
Even after Crowley notifies dispatch that Gates is the resident, the incident continues. At that time, Crowley should have said: “There has been a misunderstanding and I’m sorry for inconvenience. If you would like to file a report with my supervisors, here is my badge number and contact information”. Crowley should have defused the situation by backing down and leaving. He did not. Why not?
Professor Gates may have said something that insulted Crowley’s manhood and challenged his position. No pumped up alpha male would tuck his tail between his legs and skulk off. Ever fiber of his being, every element of his training, every aspect of his psyche required Sergeant Crowley to confront the threat to his authority.
The bottom line, Sergeant Crowley did what he did because he had too much testosterone coursing through his system.
And because he could.
#267 But nude and really cool aren’t a good combination. I believe the term is shrinkage…
267 it IS the nude live blog… what do you thing we’re all doing?
Anyone know the url for the link Chris mentioned about “we want the public option”?
270 oh no you ditint
we’re not talking about that today
242 they understand, they’re just bastards.
#271 But how much red wine is involved, Amy?
#273 http://www.citizensforapublicoption.com
I hear Palin and Morris are going on the road. she’s going to fill in the gaps when he runs out of air and he will suck her toes. It’s just what I heard…
All of Palin’s songs are in the key of screech.
Ms Palin: just when you think G W Bush was the dumbest thing
ever, here she comes.
Please Please rethugs, run her! see how that works out forya
Just signed the petition on citizens for a public option;
http://www.citizensforapublicoption.com/
I was 70,749 to sign
So according to Palin every second term President should just leave office in the first year of the second term!!!!!!!! WTF?????
I had appologetics once, but my health care wouldn’t cover it.
#273 http://www.citizensforapublicoption.com/
It’s pure Palin logic. Dropping out of high school does not make one a high school drop out, and finishing your term of employment is the quitter’s way out.
Yes she’s stupid, but she’s stupid and folksy. GWB made stupid and folksy acceptable.
#280 Yup…. She’s GDub without the Dick (and I don’t mean Cheney).
278 — They could be an old-skool rap group called “Quit DMToe”
NO SPARTA!!
278 LOL! But if Dick Morris sucks Palin’s toes I think her
head might be sucked in…
Hey Sarah, in honor of the soldier why don’t you STFU
FOR SURE
How ’bout in honor of your English teacher ya start enunciatin’ yer words?
Sparta?
269: yeppers. chuckles is like a primo poster child for rape-based trauma. – actually, it’s pretty amazing that he wasnt an angry person.
THAT’S what the troops are fighting for: Palin’s public image. Delusions of grandeur, narcissism anyone?
Hello all. I’m mad as hell at the Dems who killed Public Option.
sparta too also
SPARTA!!!
SPARTA!
Manson didn’t know his father- now his mother, he knew… she was a mess! Before he was eighteen, he had already spent almost half his life in prison…
Sparta revolution!
SPARTA
Sparta!
Go for it.
Sparta!
Congrats Dake! You are Sparta for a day!
Dake, with an unintentional Sparta! *bows*
well, off to a meeting… bye all!
of course, the ONE TIME I get Sparta, I don’t even know it… ;-(
DANG IT!!!!! Too slow. Congrats Dake on your Unintentional Sparta.
281 I’m 70,750 thanks to you
these Palin drops are so funny
300: what year did he graduate ?
dammit. Congrats Dake
Really? When was the last Hollywood rally there?
308 have a good meeting Danielle see you soon
Fairbanks? I thought all G&Ls up there lived in Homer.
Whty were any of those people cheering? Most of the time they had no idea what she was talking about.
See??? I thought THIS would be the entirety of the show YESTERDAY!!!
Snotty Boy
296 Spiff we’re all Mad As Hell
I still can’t understand how Palin can Twitter. My dog, she can’t complete any sentence in less than 140 characters!
There are not words to describe how stupid this woman is.
316: if they have enuff D’OH
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nreumh
Great job drunken biker. Hope more of us go there to sign!!
I know it’s pretty much shooting fish in a barrel, but who doesn’t like making fun of Milfy McMooseburger. Never gets old.
She’s folksy, but brings a different meaning to clearing brush.
Did I miss Sparta?
So many people know about Manson without actually knowing stuff. For example, he wasn’t personally involved in the Tate/Labianca murders, he sent his “family” to do it.
Basically, one of his “family” was in trouble for beating up and nearly killing a guy who owed them money. When one of Manson’s followers was arrested, the idea came up to do a copy cat crime, so the cops would think they had the wrong person in custody. That’s how they ended up at Sharon Tate’s house. The Labianca murders were a follow up. However, they went overboard with the violence and killed a famous actress, so the cops never thought it was linked to the earlier crime.
I think Manson sat in the car, he didn’t actually do the killing.
This is based on a book and interviews with Manson years ago. It was before they found bodies on the ranch where the Manson family lived in the 60s, so maybe Charlie did those himself.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/nreumh = Snotty Boy or Dick Morris?
328 — there’s always double sparta.
322: in that case, i’ll volunteer to do a non-destructive biopsy with a dremel. the answer is in there some place.
‘The expert witnesses called to explain to the
jury that Patty Hearst was actually a victim of coercive
persuasion, mind control and brainwashing … Joly West,
Margaret Singer, Robert Lifton and Martin Orne.
What did Joly West have to do with Vacaville Prison?
Joly West was Head of the UCLA Violence Project which
was approved by Ronald Reagan when he was Governor of
California, then shut down by public protest. It was
spearheaded by a number of people including some people
who were very interested in the history of CIA military
mind control, and have written books about it.
The UCLA Violence Project included research and
experimentation that was going to be done at
Vacaville Prison where they had the maxi-maxi which is
the maximum security place for the most freaked out
behaviorally disturbed psychotic psychologically difficult\ inmates in the California prison system which included Donald
Defreeze and Charles Manson.
Who is Colston Westbrook? According to a book on the
Phoenix program which is the CIA’s covert operation in
the Vietnam War for killing 20 VC infrastructure non-military personnel headed by William Colby, future Director of the CIA.
According to that book, Colston Westbrook was a CIA Psy-War
expert in Vietnam who came back to the USA to Vacaville
Prison under cover of the Black Cultural Association and
used behavioral modification techniques on Donald Defreeze
and gave him his code name Cinque, and devised the seven
headed logo of the Symbionese Liberation Army. Subsequent
to this coercive persuasion work done on Donald Defreeze by
this Psy-War expert employed by the CIA in Vietnam.
Donald Defreeze was transferred to another location in
the jail from which he very easily escaped the next day
only to go capture Patty Hearst and use very systematic and sophisticated mind control techniques on her despite the
fact that he was a functionally illiterate black person
off the streets…’
Albert J Dremel — a man known for his tool
Dake An unintentional sparta is better than no sparta at all!!
320—Well I’ll be writing many letters over the next few days. It’s great to have a new President. Now we see it’s not enough. We need a whole new Congress too.
#334 Coincidentally, so is Dick Morris …
Am I the only who notices that whenever Steph and the mooks (S&M) characterize generic stupid people they use hillbilly/southern accents?
Not to be too PC, but it’s insulting.
Latest example — the crowd at Sara Palin’s rally. Wouldn’t they have Alaskan accents?
329: this goes directly to what was problematic about the persecution of manson as the pimpdaddy of the murders: based entirely on a difference of wardrobe (business suits and neat hair), richard nixon went free after inducing a much grander scale of unprovoked homicides.
#321: 140 characters, including punctuation and spaces. Maybe she just pastes a link to the whole rant.
Palin isn’t folksy, she’s just annoying. And dumb. Any brain cells she has froze up there in Alaska.
Seriously, how many colleges and how many years did it take for her to graduate? And all the obsession over how she’s attractive? Uh, no. I wouldn’t cross the street to tag that skank. And if she crossed the street, I’d walk to the other side.
I’ve got standards, man. That Alaskan beaver needs to be thrown back into the wild.
Most people accept the fact that hot women live in a different world than the rest of us. People are always nice to them, they usually get their way, and they have no idea how the other half lives.
Sarah Palin grew up in Alaska, so her hotness went a lot farther. It didn’t quite work in the lower 48 (why she had to go to 5 colleges because batting her lashes just wasn’t as effective), but Alaska is different.
If you’ve got the mindset that all politicians are money grubbing crooks, why not vote for the purdy one?
Can someone tell the twit that I was a “troop” . None of us were willing to give our life for anything. But too many of us had our life taken from us.
334 heh heh heh tool
Good body drop Shane-o!
333: dont forget, the CIA had way too many field ops tied up in symbonia, while suez and burma were infinitely more important.
329 about charlie. have you ever heard of mae brussel? she was really the authority on manson. http://www.kpfa.org/archive/id/41132
Oh Sarah, two words. Hilary Clinton. The woman was demonized, vilified, pilloried, and swipes were made at her child. Guess who didn’t quit and is Secretary of State.
too much excessive redundancy award: “got some things wrong in the police report”.
#334 Speaking of Dremel, a Dremel tool has a more pleasing audio quality than Palin.
Explains the paper cuts
343 lives, families, sanity… what’s the divorce rate for
returning troops?
Important!!! Hypocrite allert!!!
Steph needs to play Palin’s own words criticising Hillary for “whining” about the media.
Sarah Palin Said Hillary Clinton Should Not Whine About The Media.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA15XU23kEc
Dick “Heat Miser” Morris is comic relief from the Blue Dog pain…ouch.
346 — is symbonia next to Freedonia?
#341 I guess she is attractice for a POLITICIAN. But that really isn’t saying too much, is it? Who is her competition?
Do adult beavers weight 40 lb. stuffed or unstuffed?
#349: from the dept. of redundancy dept.
#349, no kidding.
347 Mae Brussell!!! an American housewife who became an expert
on the JFK hit and destroyed the Warren Commission report
a True American Hero [heroine?]
BTW, I saw a woman in a restaurant last week who was wearing Palin’s signature ‘up’ hairdo. I said to my wife, “Does she really think that makes her look attractive. Or, is she just a Republican tool?”
338: “well now zeke, i just skinned this here possum i cott outside my igloo, an i figger it’ll make a good stew meat for some gumbo along with the ratsnake chili that i’m microwavin under the aurora borealis”.
Love me some beaver stack …
Everyone knows that beaver warn other beavers by hitting the water with a piece of tail.
#348 Good Point!!! Caribou Barbie didn’t get a FRACTION of the abuse Pant Suit did.
346 read ‘Barry & ‘the Boys’ : The CIA, the Mob and
America’s Secret History’ about Barry Seal, the world’s
biggest dope importer… and CIA employee
#361 Probably both.
#350, the Biniou Kozh has a more pleasing timbre than Sarah Palin’s voice: #10 in the list here – http://payplay.fm/seanfolsom
365 I never like Hillary… until now. Now I like her a lot.
I think she makes a great Secy State
270 – Yes. Racism is the red herring in this. It’s about machismo, abuse of power, police offers expecting and demanding obeisance, not just respect.
And there is classism involved as well. People can’t wait to abuse the “uppity Harvard Professor”, and protect the blue-collar cop, regardless of what the facts are.
Did gremlins sneak onto the set?
342: this is why women who had been “ugly ducklings”, or even just imagined themselves so, are the absolutely best people on earth. – they are well-tuned, well-rounded, funny, and easy on the eyes, without any drawbacks. they DO know how the other half lives, and this makes for a solid mind.
365 – I liked, and still like, Hillary. And sometimes, when Obama wimps out (which he seems to be doing a LOT lately), I wonder if she wouldn’t have been the ballsier president.
wooooo whoooooo meeting cancelled… more live blog fun!!
#365 That’s because Palin is hotter than Clinton. I’m not saying either of them are beauties, but Caribou Barbie is better looking than Mrs. Cankles.
Palin is butt ugly. That horrible character shines right through…
369 – Going to Sturgis?
Have a tall cool glass of O.J.!
I wonder who has accumulated more income from the insurance industry — Max Baucus or Hillary Clinton?
#372 Damn straight. Not having everything given to you because you’re hot forces you to build character. Personality goes a long way.
Lots of men complain that hot women are bitches without realizing that their fawning all over the hotties gave them that sense of entitlement.
Of course, I never hear Bing Crosby – I just hear Taz’s dad from TazMania!
355: there may have been common trade routes, based on burkina fossil records.
OMG, Jackson was regularly sedated? Sad!
Well, I’ve got to get to work, bye blogoes!
360: hero, heroine, either way, homegirl is really dope.
Amy…cause Sarah Palin isn’t all that pretty?
For example, I am watching Bloomberg right now. Know who is hot? Margaret Brennan.
And she’s smart. She graduated from UVA, studied Arabic because she wanted to know about that region and spent a couple of semesters doing a study abroad program in the UAE.
Hell, man, come to think of it, just that makes her more qualified for the VP spot than Palin was.
Best Blue Collar Comedy Line “She was madder than a one-legged waitress workin’ at IHOP”…
I just sent a not nice email to a major cable news station criticizing their lack of coverage of the health care problem.
I hope you will do the same.
Sorry Jessica, it’s not going to work. But cheer up, you’ve got 5 kinds of syrup to choose from.
377 I’d love to go to Sturgis, but I’m broke and don’t
know nuthin’, making it difficult… I’m going to the
82nd Airborne Division Association picnic Aug 1st, that
should be something… free food, free beer, many drunken
old paratroopers…
A pretty face is like the wrapping on a present. If the present is a giant turd, then it doesn’t matter how pretty the wrapping is, it’s still a piece of crap.
On the other hand, if something’s got nice wrapping and there’s a diamond in there….
Speaking of Michael Vick: here’s hoping some dog loving outside linebacker takes out both his knees during his first game back.
#338: You have a point about the accents, but a I heard a HuffPo reporter saying that MANY of the people at the event were from out of state.
368: gaelic fun fact: sarah palin’s voice makes banshees weep.
I’ve got no problem with Vick playing again. He did his time.
#381 Yep, that’s where I got the line from (#378).
387 back from yer meetin’ I see… one legged waitress
workin’ at IHOP… I’m gonna steal that… this one almost
got me cut off at the bar the other night:
me: [to the barmaid] do you know the difference between a
boner and a Porsche?
barmaid: no
me: I don’t have a Porsche…
WALKENIZED fun fact: “sarah palin’s voice invariably causes the little baby jesus to bleed from the ass profusely. the woman is a waste of spatial co-ordinates.”
i get sooo tired of listening to stiphanie verbally blow these congress critters. rhodes and miller must have went to the same school. first they come out swinging for the bill and then bring on the congress critters to explain why it’s so hard to pass the bill. why they’ll trow us some kind of bone but it won’t be what we deserve. this is not hard..open up medicare for everyone.
397… LOLOLOLOL… see, and in my opinion the only way a cheesy pick up line is effective is if it makes ya’ laugh anyhow…
394 and her politics makes Baby Jesus cry
395 I agree, let Michael Vick have a second chance.
He was punished way out of proportion
Everytime I think of Michael Vick I want to tear him to pieces. We just lost a dog we adopted from animal control and adopted a new one. She’s the third we’ve gotten from there. We love those dogs, and just thinking of somebody fighting dogs makes me want to do to Vick what he forced those dogs to do to each other.
400 Sparta and a Third! must be worth something… T-ball trophy?
the barmaid did smile but tried not to show it
and she did keep serving me…
378: but you see what O.J. got for sticking around and putting up with all the business-as-usual attack games.
398 bleeding anus baby jesus… oh boy
rethugs are gonna be in some real trouble when Jesus come back…
with his lawyers…
#394, what do you think the banshees are screaming? “D`uin do ghob!” (Shut your gob)
Obama doesn’t have to sign the bill, btw
381: i KNEW there was a difference between robobagpiper and charles manson !
Mark… I’d prefer a stuffed beaver from mama… I think they should be handed out from now on in replace of t-ball trophies…
OMG, Shatner reads Palins farewell speech as beat poety on the Tonight Show:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/28/william-shatner-makes-pal_n_246034.html
I agree with caller. “We’re not gonna take it!” Maybe they could alternate depending on the news.
402 I love dogs [more than most people] and I hate dog fighting…
but I do think Michael Vick deserves a second chance. I think
he could do education against dog fighting too
over 250 chihuahuas found in a house in Dearborn last week, they
are still finding more… over 110 alive, the rest in freezers, etc
I have just one question about Gatesgate: after a few Sam Adams at the White House, will they head for the basketball court or the bowling alley?
[and now, "enough!"]
Caller, perfect is the enemy of the good. Congress will NEVER pass single payer.
It was only useful as a starting negotiating position, and Obama and Congressional Dems stupidly didn’t use it.
Um Sean? Presidents never apologize – or have you forgetten the entire GWB administration?
Love the Tull ref, Jim!
#401 You do know of all the horrendous things he did, right? Not just the dog fighting ring itself. Whic is certainly bad enough. But all the other dogs that he killed slowly and mercilously with bizarre forms of torture. I’m sorry, that man is EVIL.
Hasn’t anyone heard of Cane-fu?
http://www.canemasters.com/page.html?chapter=0&id=32
410 shaf you saw that too
BRILLIANT! The Shat Man with stand up bass and bongos behind
him doing Palin’s speech as Beat Poetry… best thing since
Jim Wards slutty Queen…
Michael Vick wasn’t punished enough as far as I’m concerned. You have to be a pretty sick or damaged person to not get just how very, very wrong dog fighting is.
Oh, I’m so pleased that NOW he understands that what he did was wrong… like where the hell was his moral character BEFORE he got caught???
#417, I’m aware of all the things he did. But he also served his time. And when people have served their time, we rehabilitate them into society.
I CAN’T FIND THE SECTION WITH THE NAMES OF THE SONGS THEY PLAY ON THE SHOW!!!
can somebody help me…
#417 Which is exactly why I’d like to treat him the same way he treated the animals. (Of course I only say that because my chances of ever meeting the man are slim and none.)
More deadly cane-fu action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2lJWAIyYtU
401: i dont do opinions, just observations. it’s faster. an observation on vick: the punishment should begin AFTER michael vick has gone at least one round in the ring with a staffordshire terrier of equal weight. – that way, they know how much of vick to punish.
416 always with the Tull ref!
new day yesterday old day now
I didn’t follow the Vick case that close, didn’t know he tortured
dogs too… can’t we have EVIL DICK put on trial for torturing
humans? Vick should do public service announcements against
dog fighting
362 sounds like life in tha Alabama swamps. Or are they called bajous?
The really pathetic thing about Vick is that he made such a point of retaining his thuggish friends from his past who he should have cut loose. He should have followed the example of his own teammate, Warrick Dunn, who spends his excess time and money rebuilding inner city housing projects and giving back to the community he came from instead of making it WORSE.
I’m off to see how I can raise hell with certain members of Congress. Have a good day.
#427 I know they’re bayous in Louisiana. I don’t think they are in Alabama.
I with Rich on this one… I have no problem with someone paying their debt to society and getting a second chance but, for one, he hardly served enough time for cruel animal torture, and number two, if any one of us had committed such a crime, we would a) lose our current job when we went to jail and b) be required to tell a potential employer about our criminal record and thus be very unlikely to get employed.
But this SOB gets his same well-pain sports position handed right back after only this short time?!?!?! What does this say to our kids, if you have money you aren’t punished as bad as the rest of us… all I can say is ewww…
#422 – goto the main page – click on “The Show” (at the top) — on that page click on “Music Played” — list goes up pretty soon after the show ends
425 I like it. I once helped whelp a litter of eight Staff terrier
babies… it was so cool. Mom knew I was there to help. She was a
great momma. Detroit is full of illegal dog fighting rings, it’s
out of control
Athens! No wait. Corinth! No, ah Shi*#.
PJ — thanks for coining Gatesgate. That is such a great statement on the weirdness of American politics.
406: ““D`uin do ghob!” (Shut your gob)” – obviously an attempt at backward-masking “bogart nude”. nude gambling in casablanca? i’m shocked !! – shocked !!
426 — problem with the tull song is that it doesn’t begin with a peppy drum intro.
THERMOPYLAE!
#431, Danielle, “what does it say to our kids”? You do a crime, you do the time. Vick is a rotten son of a bitch. But he’s paid his debt to society, and we do not deny people a livelihood because of what it might say to the children.
And the compromise is one of two Senate bills. The House bill still has Public Option, and is quite good.
418: what? cant hear you. that little old lady jammed a couple of canes into my ears.
Dog fighting pens are where the hounds of hell live.
Unfortunately, no cable news network will cover health care. I’ve seen it on Bloomberg but not anywhere else. Why? Because people care more about Michael Jackson’s drugs than if they can get their own. Is it stupid? Of course. But unfortunately, that’s the population we have.
421: well thank goodness that william callie and ollie north have balance their karma.
439… as I said, I have no problem with people who really pay their debt, but the rich get lesser sentences, can afford better lawyers, and then are immediately returned to some outrageously high paying jobs… I’m sorry, but it just wouldn’t go down like that for the rest of us… I just don’t feel that he’s really paid back his debt…I have no problem with him getting out of jail, but to hand him a multi-million dollar sports contract is insulting to the souls of all the animals he tortured and murdered…
Charlie Rangle?!
431 Vick lost 12 million dollars… is that enough?
427: okay by me if it’s okay bajou
Tony, you happen to check out my blog yesterday… I went on a tirade about the same subject….
meant “Rangel” (you know who I meant
)
Poor Michael Vick.
Please someone kill Big Insurance, Big Parma… and Congress
we are F#$Ked if we don’t get rid of these bought-and-paid-for
douchebags
Am I wrong in thinking that our congresscritters should be limited to getting the same level of quality of insurance that the majority of the members of their district get? After all, my supervisor gets better insurance than I do because he can afford more, right up to the head of my company. Since we’re technically the supervisors of Congress, shouldn’t we have equal if not better insurance than them?
It’s a simple view, sure, but why not?
mark, no, the rest of us wouldn’t have 12 million to lose and are ass would still be sitting in jail…
I guess I’m just angry today… this healthcare issue has me really fired up…
428: first things first. they cott aguy going around named “warrick dunn”. – this guy should be bitchslapped for hours by dermot mulroney and mcgeorge bundy for having such a bephucked name.
Lindsey liked her shoes, so of course he votes in favor.
Oh my!
Faxing your reps is better than email becauses it makes for tons of paper, according to Thom Hartmann.
456 — don’t you mean her shoe?
#444, nowhere in his sentencing hearing was there a parole provision “oh, yeah, you only can take menial jobs for the rest of your life”.
Maybe he’ll end up with a dog loving center.
#444 Amen, Sistah!!
#446 Boo freakin’ Hoo for Michael Vick. He’ll make it back in less than three years. Unless the afore mentioned linebacker destroys his knees in Game 1.
“Sarah and the Birthers” What a great name for a band!
Yay! former Detroit Tigers pitcher and Senator from Kentucky
Jim Bunning won’t run for re-election. He’s one like DICK Shelby
of Alamaba and other bastards who wanted to kill the domestic
auto industry in favor of foreign companies who pay them bribes
and locate in their non-union states… don’t let the door
hit you Jimmy
455. Love Dermot Mulroney. I’d pay a dollar to watch that!
Thank you, Shane-O!!!!!!!
439: i must be a great many levels of magnitude better than society.
#457 lions and tigers and bears.
Vick is prolly done anyway in the NFL… I never liked him,
I just think people do need second chances…
People need to stop conflating “justice” with “revenge”
460… I know… it just speaks volumes of about the ethics of the team manager / owner (or whoever the heck hires him back)… I’m not saying every person who commits a crime should never be able to get a good job… that’s stupid… I’m just saying that the rest of us wouldn’t be taken back to our $100K + jobs after we did something like that…(besides perhaps on WalStreet)
446: negative (see 425)
it’s summer, it’s hot… sticky, sweaty… Congress SUCKS.
Health Care Reform is turning into a nightmare… it’s
enough to make one start drinking early…
I tend to call, and e-mail. But yes, faxing is also effective. Guess I’ll send a couple one off at lunch.
Oops I meant I’ll send a couple of them off at lunch.
460: sentencing reform. excellent idea.
#469 I’m pretty sure SOMEONE will sign him. There are too many teams with crappy QBs out there. I bet he’ll get picked up by a team mid-season.
Vick is an ignorant person
he’s got some kind of excuse, not that it let’s him off, what he
did was horrible
unlike the rethugs who know exactly what they do
Thank you caller. I think I’m going to call the Congress Critters again…
#326, #410: It’s been so much fun making fun of Palin’s stream-of-cluelessness that I’m going to feel like a hypocrite when I make fun of free-form poetry!
Michael Vick got off lightly, but even if he “paid his time”, he certainly doesn’t “need” to have a multimillion dollar sports career back in order to earn a livelihood.
Let him work at something a little less glamorous for a living, plenty of people do.
A pox on any football team that gives him a job.
Sarah Palin = Barely Goldwater.
473… I’m at the point of doing shots already today!!! Anyone got any Patron? Jack? Anything?
Palin = Gitmo torture tapes
Palin: ‘we eat therefore… we something… cook meth?
doncha know!’
“bringing everyone to the table” invites copyright infringement action from the twilight zone, as does sarah palin herself.
Hey Palin I eat therefore I shit!!
Michael Vick should get a job tending animals in a shelter or pound.
Good God, the names of those Palin kids are SOOOOO stupid.
482- I LOVE IT!!!!!
483 here, have a littul o’this VO… it’s crisp and delicious…
483. Here’s a little Patron Silver Medicine
Someone should do a Shatner/Palin spoken word mash-up.
Like my late older brother used to say to me when teasing me mercilessly as a kid, “You’ve got a hole in your head, but that’s beside the point.” I think it fits Michele Bachman.
410: LOL!!!
488: “…and you’re writing off a tazer and a nest of hornets as work equipment, mr vick ?”
That’s like being the smartest kid with downs syndrom!!!
#489 (continued) Even Bristol, which seems innocent enough. But if they’d done a little research they might have found out that it is an English euphemism for BOOB.
is it just me or did the crazy woman with the birth cert
in the baggie sound just like palin, and look like her
from behind [same ugly beehive 'doo]
I thought Sarah Palin was an English euphemism for “boob.”
489: yes, but they laff their faces off over “warrick dunn”.
491 / 492… ahhhhhh… thank you!!
If Michael Vick can make a go of being back in the NFL, then by ghob, more power to him. I don’t see too much difference between football and dogfights myself, but that’s just me, really.
Oh Momma love how you’re Never decent
hey, can we play birther or mouth-breather now?
SPARTAC!!!!!!! (see, it’s sparta plus a C which stands for 100. Clever, huh?)
503 both deep pools of ignorance and brutality
Someone roll up a newspaper and bat Biden on the nose.
498: thank you for keeping us a breast of these things.
488: I think that sounds good….
For a Birther, any time security doesn’t escort you from the meeting makes it a success!
#500 It is NOW!!!! HAH!!
I drink therefore I … ummm … ahhh … whooo! Boy oh boy …
hey, sarah.s CO-OPERATIN HERE !!
#506 But my post was Sparta + 200 so that would make it “SPARTACC”
#509 (once more channeling my inner Chris Matthews) HAH!!!!!
later ya’ll!
St. Paul is also where that wedding took place that was all over youtube last week where veryone danced down the aisle.
Buh Bye, Bloggoes!
always great
you people are like… heroin to a junkie… booze to me…
something something… thanks for being there
515: sheer spartataccc was a fine album, you closet queen lover you !!
#515 Right you are. My math not so good.
Wow, that was fast! Time to get outta here. See you tomorrow!
Don’t get too excited over the home sales news, folks. It’s all due to foreclosures and short sales. The housing market is not in good shape.
And on that note, I hope you have a good day.
Wow I didn’t even see that Shatner beat parody on Conan. I should have asked for million dollars first.
Buh BYE!!!!
#498: Well, I don’t think they were planning to send her to Oxford…
Good day all!
Great show. Have an wonderful day, everyone!
an = a
Thank-you liveblog and mooks! Steph and Mooks are better than pills and drips anyday.