LiveBlog for Thursday, July 9, 2009
• Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-NY) calls in at 8:05am Pacific to talk about the economy and the stimulus.
• Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) calls in at 8:35am Pacific to talk about the economy and the stimulus.
• CIA Director Leon Panetta recently testified to Congress that the agency concealed information and misled lawmakers repeatedly since 2001, according to a letter from seven House Democrats to Panetta made public yesterday. The letter contained no details about what information the CIA officials allegedly concealed of how they purportedly misled members of Congress.
• House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-MD) said Tuesday he would consider supporting a second economic stimulus bill, but said people need to give the package that passed in February more time to work.
• Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT) said yesterday that lawmakers still need to come up with $320 billion over the coming decade in taxes to pay for health care reform. The remaining cost of the bill would be paid for through savings in Medicare, Medicaid, and other programs.
• The leaders of the G-8 nations issued a joint statement last night expressing serious concerns about the post-election violence in Iran, as well as its continued pursuit of nuclear weapons, but the G-8 will not push for new economic sanctions or tougher enforcement of those that exist, the Obama administration announced yesterday.
Tags: Barack Obama, CIA, Eliot Engel, G-8 Summit, Gregory Meeks, Iran, Leon Panetta, Max Baucus, Steny Hoyer
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Good morning, everyone. This will be another hi/bye for me. Almost done with this week’s training (think my head will ‘esplode’).
Need to run and open up the training room (besides being a student, I’m also a facilitator). Have a great day everyone!
Gooood morning all. Unfortuately, a drive by for me, I think it’s better that I not be at my desk too long, gonna play with a software package called LabVIEW as we try to modernize some of our test software. There won’t be any internet access on that PC.
Had a tornado warning in my area yesterday, but it turned out to be a microburst instead that hit a few miles away. Lotsa rain though, the manhole covers in our complex were sitting on geysers of water.
New brakes on the Honda, first time I used them I nearly snapped my neck. You don’t notice when things deteriorate slowly, but now it’s like learning to drive the thing over again.
TTFN
Looks like a day to actually work. Just doing a fly-by blog. Everyone have a good day!
Wow, is anyone actually going to blog today? I’m leaving for Chicago in a hour, and have to get ready, so I can’t stick around.
If anyone’s here, have fun!
Good morning any remaining live blogospherians! Illinois AG Lisa Madigan has announced that she won’t run for either governor or U.S. senator. I’m begging Jan Shakowsky, PLEASE change your mind!
Morning All!
I too am back to work today. I’ll be watching the blog and may have a chance to chime in, but I must get some work done too!
It looks like the regulars are all absent today, did I miss a “Senior Skip Day” memo?
Well, I’m a summertime/school vacation regular….
**SPIRIT FINGERS** (Now, with extra crispy spirit because I’m so freakin tired!)
Jim, never shave while having sex.
That Goldman-Sachs article was spot on.
Hey Evveybody, It’s that time again
I remember when another Oscar Mayer died in the ’50s.
Good Morning Bloggers!
Why are we still giving the Wassilian Ho a platform?
Happy 53rd Tom Hanks, forever rugged Brian Dennehy is 72, and skank buscuit Courtney Love is 45.
Does anyone recognize the Captain Kangaroo music?
Good morning MookenBloggers,
I too have to make a touch and go here today, I’m off to doctor shortly for weekly cast change..
I’ll be thinking of you guys!
#14 Yeah, I’m old enough to recognize it.
13 please God, NO! let that creep vanish into oblivion.
The next thing I hear about that better be it’s going
to jail. I did look up the google and in fact it’s true
that Washilla IS the meth capitol of that blighted place…
K to the J to the … actually sounds very much like Mr. Wong, from Icebox. I’m guessing that Jimbo did that voice, as well as Hard Drinkin’ Lincoln.
Oscar Mayer’s family is tired of being grilled by the press about his funeral.
Nothing with a cord for Mama … batteries only from now on, we promise.
Good morning Bloggotypes!
#20 May I suggest kerosene?
Note to anyone who pays attention to this sort of thing, I would never use Quietiss just because their commercials are so annoying.
With so many regulars out for the day, we might want to change the name of this to the “dead blog.”
maybe they all had a computer meltdown…my gateway is DOA
I think Lisa Madigan is anti-declaring just to see who will beg her to reconsider…and it won’t be me…
CIA mislead Congress since 2001:
Really?
since 2001? Huh. And I thought it was since 1947.
What do we spend on “intelligence”? $47.5 billion in 2008.
And what do we get for it? We are hated around the world.
We couldn’t defend ourselves from unarmed airliners on
the Day we needed it. We get lies, assassinations and
drugs. Dirty wars for Corporate Profits.
Hmmm…I had problems yesterday, but no problems today.
#19: When Jim started the Oscar Meyer obit, I was hoping for the swirly Citizen Kane theme. Oh well, there goes the Oscar Meyer account anyhow.
Long circuit on the motorcycle yestiday, cranked it up
over the ‘ton’ [100mph] as they say in Brit-speak…
exhilarating, about like putting yer wango in a Suzy-bake
oven [not that I'd know] missed the last hour of the SMS
and you all… but you made Sparta without me, Very Proud of you…
Jim, don’t you know what STYPTIC PENCIL is? Every man (and woman, unless you’re one of those who doesn’t shave anything) should have one. Also, one reason for bad nicks isn’t that your razor is sharp, it might be DULL – you can actually nick yourself more with a dull razor than a sharp one. And I find those disposable razors are the major cause of shaving accidents.
And if you’re in a pinch, literally, use table salt on your shaving wound. It’ll sting like hell, but at least it will help the bleeding stop and it won’t leave a scar once it’s healed.
I’ve always resented Oscar Mayer for being so highbrow that they pronounce one of their best selling meat products as “ba-LONE-uh.” Talk about pretentious! Us ordinary folks say, “Baloney” (and “us little folks” instead of “we little folks.”)
Could Twitter be stealing a little of the live blog’s thunder?
9 Jim shaving while/sexing? not smart… Jumangaa is already
trying to cash in on that large life insurance policy… next
it will be marathon sex sessions after gigantic lattes and
a pack of Luckys… what out Jim
#30 I bought a super-sized styptic pencil sometime before I got married (we’ve been married 34 years). It’s about a half inch in diameter and 4 inches long. I’ve barely put a dent in it. I’m going to bequeath it to my son, who will be able to bequeath it if he eventually has a son.
33 of course I meant ‘watch out Jim’… throw in Bones McCoy drop
Call out to the Live Blog! Scooter! Congrats!
Yay scooter!
A friend who was into Nothern Italian Cuisine told me about a dish from the Bolognia region, and I would kiddingly ask him if there was any Bolognia in it! He would get mad and tell me that it’s Prosciuto (cured Italian ham) from the Bolognia region, that evolved into the lunch meat we know as Bolognia, or nicknamed today as Baloney.
#28 One of my favorite comic premises ever was invented by Jim Earl, cast member on the erstwhile AAR show Morning Sedition. His weekly on- air obits were hilarious.
Prosciuto evolved into baloney? They seem nothing alike.
Twitter is for Twits. I Will Not Twitter. Nor will I
get a Blackberry or instant message
This guy just figgered out Steph’s a Homegirl? How long
he bin listening?
A year on unemployment: 180 finds of my resume, 10 reviews
of it, 1 [ONE!] phone call. Zero job offers.
Thank George W. Bush for the ruined economy.
Hi all, in for a moment, but here the article on the stimulus to read at your leisure.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2009/02/01/GR2009020100154.html
I always ascribe Evil motives… to Rush
I’m tired.
I’m tired of being tired.
I’m exhausted with being fed up.
Its on the TV.
Its on the nightly news.
Its on the faces of everyone I meet.
Selfishness.
Considering no one else.
Whether it be TV ratings or Dinner with friends.
They promise.
Knowing the words are lies.
Perhaps enjoying toying with your mind.
I try so hard.
I try to be better than that.
I want to believe in myself, and in my views.
I want to scream.
To tell them they know better.
To show them success can come without this.
I’m angry now.
I’m fed up with lies and propaganda.
Both from my friends and the nonsense media.
Let us stand up.
Let us show we do know better.
May we be honest with our minds, mouths, and hearts.
Not only over war.
Not just for this slow economy.
But to prove that things can be better than this.
We can be true.
To ourselves and our friends.
To the massess and to the individual.
We can be real.
To our hearts and our minds.
We can be better than this. I know we can.
The caller is like my mom. She listens to wingnut radio because she is amused by it.
Ya know it’s a slow news day when they’re relying on ME for jokes! But I like getting the shoutouts.
Stephanie – regarding the painter on the phone now… the problem is that the building trades are a lagging indicator. They will be among the last to recover. Ouch.
I’m afraid health care reform is going to be as bad as Medicare Part D.
Shameless Plug for a really talented artist:
http://bedpanart.web.aplus.net/cart/
I don’t do a lot of that, but czech Drexel Dave Sparks out.
You’ll like his sh#t, promise. You might even buy a piece
to put on your coffee table…
I love it when Stephie says “blah blah blah”
for some reason
gives me chills
is that so wrong?
Bingo! WHY has only 10% been spent.
44 DrunkNIrishDanielle did you write that?
I feel the same way
47 not to mention the glut of housing and the mortgage crisis,
so building trades are even farther off… even GM and Ford
got really hit, full sized pickup trucks were their lifeblood
and who bought them? builders. when the housing bubble burst
it killed that market.
We live in a bubble cycle no longer a business cycle.
What to we make here anymore? Gambling dope and whore
don’t count. Prisons and The Police State is not
manufacturing, sorry. You gotta make stuff. Exporting
raw materials and importing finished goods is the
stuff of a third world country. Which is where we’re going.
Not to be a buzz-kill, but just sayin’. When is BushCo
going on trial again? Oh yeah, NOT.
48 Medicare Part D is a perfect example of why we’re doomed:
every thing Congress touches turns to crap. Hey, let’s let
Big Pharma and Big Insurance WRITE THE LAW! grate idea!
then we can suck the marrow right from the bones of the
American taxpayer…
52.. I did… just now… fed up with BS news and then had friends break plans we’ve had for weeks for other BS reasons… I know it doesn’t help to be frustrated, but I’m over it!
“Zimmerman, MN”? Doesn’t he mean “I”m Bob Zimmerman
from Hibbing, Minnesota”… btw Where Is This Idiot Caller GOING?
53 yes, and there’s going to be a ton more commercial paper due and walked away from. We’re in for another wave of business failures in the building trades.
56, 44 that’s profound, I’m gonna save it.
It does help a lot to know you’re not alone
and that other people are also sick and tired
of being sick and tired… after a while you
feel so beat down you just need to try to connect
to nature, family, friends, pets, humor, music…
recharge and refresh
You can’t be outraged all the time even though
the stuff that outrages you is always there…
thank you caller
thank you Jim
see 53 54
duh!? m-a-n-u-f-a-c-t-u-r-i-n-g
Max from L.A. was calling. But it wasn’t Max and Oliver.
I think they ARE trying to dial and call in, but it’s
tough when all you got is a ginormous nose to dial with…
Thanks for the kind words Mark… I’d say I’m fairly good at staying postive a lot of the time… But every now and then I just wish I could scream…
I write a lot… perhaps if I shared more of it I’d feel better…
Demand drives economy. Demand comes from wages. Wages have been driven down by 30 years of economic warfare on the middle class. This recession will last a very long time. May slip into depression. It’s structural.
Prosciuto is awesome
Baloney sucks
nothing says dismal more than cheap baloney on cheap
nasty Wonder Bread
unless it’s no sandwich at all. How about generic fake
cheese? not even ‘real’ Velveeta. Generic cereal? 19 cent
box o’generic macaroni and cheese? It sucks when dad spends
his whole check at the bar/blind pig and there’s no food
in the house. Not that I’d know, that’s what Kathleen had
to grow up with. No, in my house there was plenty of food,
and an insance batshit crazy religious zelot mom who would
come in the bedroom in the morning to tell you you’re going
to hell… no, ma, theses are school clothes. Hell is what
I’m living… hey, everybody has their own specially fitted
cross to bear…
#58 The regional newspaper I read lists the week’s bankruptcy filings every Thursday and this morning it was TRIPLE its normal length. Lots of people appear to be in debt about what a typical house would be worth, but there are some big cases too. One company going down was $60 million in debt. So I’m thinking that we might be seeing a new wave of trouble.
Fried baloney on toasted Wonder Bread is actually pretty good…with ketchup.
Well, time to go see if that little beagle is still at animal control. I hope she’s available for adoption today. I miss having a doggy.
61 writing is a nice outlet… ‘a sordid outlet for my
unhealthy obsessions’
do you post yer stuff anywhere besides here Danielle?
I’d be honored and think it was really cool if you’d
consider joining http://phatcitynews.blogspot.com/
and the invitation extends to all of you here
Good Morning, Y’all!!!! Mr. Late Start here. (damn job).
If you’re going to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you’re going to San Francisco
You’re gonna meet Stephanie Miller there
For those who come to San Francisco
Summer time will be a love-in there
In the streets of San Francisco
Mooks with flowers in their hair
66 Good Luck! Bring Home the Doggy!
Morning all. OMG Hannity first time I tune in..AAAAAGGGGHHHHH
Yes she is!
Mark- I haven’t, but I have tons of stuff at home to share…
Is this your blog? I wrote the address down, but I must wait till I’m at home to check it out.
wow… the show has taken a quick turn to the smutty. Right On!!!!
15 years well spent!
65 it’s the frying/toasting that makes all the diff, yer right
vagina lifting? clean and jerk? I wanna see Steph mop the
court with Washilla Dumbass… one on one… Come On Mamma
now this is really getting out of hand. Steph’s got her
po-po mixed up with her va-jay-jay
Good morning, everyone. Hope everyone is having a good day.
I did some blogging about the state of the economy and how the data shows an economy that’s scuffling.
I think that the people who are talking about how the stimulus isn’t working need to shut the hell up. Most of it hasn’t gotten out there yet because you don’t just say, hey, let’s to build a road. It takes time to put the contracts out for bid and it takes time to get those projects going. Wait until the end of the year when it kicks in.
I also think those who are talking about a second stimulus need to shut the hell up, too. They’re like a doctor calling for more of a drug before the first injection has circulated through the bloodstream.
Does her 15 year old kid also get “bragging rights”?
I think we should have a contest…we’ve got the three stooges of governors. Who’s Larry, who’s Curly, and who’s Moe?
Choose between Blagojovich, Palin, and Sanford.
hello all, Drive by for me too.
10—I gotta read that article today. I may even subscribe for my son.
My choices would be like this — Sanford is Larry, Palin is Curly, and Blago is Moe.
73 I’m on that blog, it’s the remnants of the Early Days o’the
Innernuthin’, once we were HUGE, the Web outrage, with some
great writers from all over the country and international.
The Old Fat City News, now long gone. I think you can still
find pages from it here:
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fatcitynews.com
now the blog is a shadow, but we could get it cranked up
again, with some new blood… anyway it’s an outlet
Love how Jim’s Autrian says Schodomite…
62—I heard from Ravi Batra that the real thing to do to fix the economy would be to raise the minimum wage again because then those who are employed can buy more.
truly a temporary worker !
Sanford Blaggo Palin
Which would you screw, marry, kill?
kill kill kill
just kidding. F@%K em all.
Damn Jim is on fire again today
55—Congress is indeed a big bag of tools for the lobbyists.
LOL, Jim—-great song!
Ok, back to my point. KO reminded us last night that there are 20 lobbyists for every 1 congress person.
82- we can give it a shot… I’ve been in the mood lately to have an outlet… and thus, you’ve presented a perfect opportunity. I will check out the site and attempt to post something tonight. Thanks! A lot!
Autrian = Austrian
or maybe Autrian is right as in Autistic
Damn nice conspiracy ref Steph!, fat kids skinny kids kids who
climb on rocks… kids on the Grassy Knoll?
The Smother’s Brothers actually did a song that went: “I fell into a vat of chocolate . . .
10 Goldman Sachs article? where link please?
85—-did you notice that bailin’ Palin was in full make-up and eyeliner and false eyelashes while she was fishing?
So bizarre. Ready for a press conference while fishing.
Steph claimed to have ‘made a man’ out of MJ
o’course the proof was when her OB/GYN found
one sequined glove during the exam…
90—here it is
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/28816321/the_great_american_bubble_machine/print
91 that’s hilarious. full make up and hip waders
that whore
Do you think LAPD kinda dropped the ball? Why did they go in to take the meds 2-3 days after when the family started to move stuff out already?
#91 I’m sure she wakes up everyday ready for a press conference. Pretty much what she lives for. She heard there were more to be had down here in the Lower 48, and so she up and quittted…. YAY for us. Get ready for Palin-palooza!!!
94—-it’s just weird. Does she think that if her adoring public sees here w/o eyeliner her face will melt?
93 thanx thanx Spiff, am investigating
ditint Elvis also have a gigantic dope habit fed by crooked
doctors? I’m still thinkin’ MJ was worth more [a LOT more]
dead than alive… he only wanted to do 10 shows/15 minutes
each… backers/leeches/cronies stood to lose if he didn’t
perform or fans were outraged at the few minutes he spent
on stage… now he’s a money maker again, and they don’t
even have to refund ticket money since ignorant feebs are
going for the souvenir tickets instead…
77—-I don’t know if I agree with a 2nd stimulus or not. I’d have to see the data. But I thinkl raising the minimum wage makes a lot of sense because we were WAY behind the cost of living rise since Congress didn’t do a damn thing about it for 10 years.
I try to hit all the ‘Will you vote for Palin in 2012?’ polls and say YES because I really want to see them try to foist Caribou Barbie on the RNC as a viable candidate.
good morning SMS liveblog.
So why is it that I really HATE those Geico commercials with the gecko with the cockney accent so much? I just do. I don’t know why.
‘K, I’m outta here. There was a fire in the hills 20 miles from me yesterday and I didn’t even notice ’cause I was writing and researching.
That’s weird.
Steph Stephie Stephcha
Oliver drivin the gang to the Liquor Barn
Max workin’ the pedals
Momma airing out her hammer toes
Spillin’ The Wine
love that girl
102 it’s not just you Richard. Gieco Gecko annoying
99 how about we close the door that GATT/NAFTA opened?
if you don’t do that NOTHING ELSE MATTERS
Listening to Clannity definately does not relieve the frustration today….
I wish Hannity would speak up. I can barely hear him.
Goldman Sachs is evil. They are the ones who profited from
all this and they are still standing. Banksters
Mark, perhaps we’re both in the same mood today!
I’ve enjoyed your posts!
any fans of Aqua Teen Hunger Force here?
check out my Mooninites “Music Video” during the commercials~!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9YItOTT58Y
this is what happens when people have too much time on their hands.
95 LAPD always drops the ball on purpose when
it comes to celebrities. Most Corrupt Force Ever
the history of the LAPD is long and convoluted.
They get hollywood to do PR for them, Dragnet,
ADAM-12 etc while they have way too few cops and
so rely on terror and a militarized force to keep
the lid on. Watch L.A. Confidential or better yet
read it… sure it’s a novel but it’s based on
real history, and nuthin’s changed since, only got
worse. Darrell Gates? criminal. LAPD? Heavily involved
with… the CIA. Bobby Kennedy hit? LAPD made sure
the patsy got framed and no investigation… I could go on.
Stephanie Miller: “The Horror! The Horror! Exterminate all the brutes”
it’s gonna be ok momma, you won’t get bumped Every time
110 thanks Danielle, everyone is going through a terrible
struggle
all of you always help me through these difficult mornings
I’d prolly be dead w/o Steph the Mooks and You All
not joking for once
Please hang up on ridiculous caller, thank you
111 czeching Brian
#115
pardon? que es “czeching?”
Okay so I heard about a recent study that cardiac patients wait longer in American ED’s than they do in Canada.
Mr Lavort, we’re so sorry to inform you that your
employer, Ms Miller, drowned during the wine tasting
tour of the winery…
“Well at least she died quickly”
Oh No, she fought us off for an hour!
czech = check
Mooninites “Music Video”
very strange very surreal
very cool though, nice work
Hey, now Steph can say Equinox
still has no clue what it means
Morning all.
As Howard Dean said – when it comes to the senate, your either for the insurance companies or the American people. 72% of the public want it, the Dems have the majority, it’s time to move on this.
#120
heehee. *thanks!*
it was sooooooo much work! but came out prettymuch as envisioned.
Funny thing about “socialised medicine” in Canada and Britain: If you asked 100 people in either country whether they would prefer their current insurance, or switch to insurance like WE have, I doubt you’d get a single person who’d want that.
You guys inspired me to do some blogging on the Three Stooges of Governors.
The Three Stooges of Governors
I liked those talking points that were being spewed by the callers about health care. What I want to do with everyone who says that a Canadian system is horrible is ask them — so, you’ve been treated in Canada?
I actually have.
44. Danielle, thank-you for saying so eloquently what I am feeling. I’m so tired of it all I stayed in bed all day yesterday and may do the same today just so I don’t have to hear or face any of it. Props to you and your fine writing!
thanks K- to be honest, I was really just venting, but the feedback for you guys has definately inspired me to share more of my work… I will find some of my golden oldies to post for you guys! It’s encouraging to hear kind words.
Pay more and get less. That’s republican math Steph! (You know like how quitting is not quitting??).
The Oprah Book Club??
The Stephanie Book Club!!
This month’s selection:
The Housewife’s Handbook on Selective Promiscuity
Isn’t it always Misty in Seattle?
I’m so tired of hearing callers talk about how bad health care is in England. I travel to England regularly and have many friends there. All say they never have to wait and all of my friends love the service. Here are the facts as reported by Wikipedia.
Although the NHS has a high level of popular public support within the country the national press is often highly critical of it and this may have affect perceptions of the service within the country as a whole and outside. An independent survey conducted in 2004 found that users of the NHS often expressed very high levels satisfaction about their personal experience of the medical services they received. Of hospital inpatients, 92% said they were satisfied with their treatment; 87% of GP users were satisfied with their GP; 87% of hospital outpatients were satisfied with the service they received; and 70% of Accident and Emergency department users reported being satisfied. [8] But when asked whether they agreed with the question “My local NHS is providing me with a good service” only 67% of those surveyed agreed with it, and only 51% agreed with the statement “The NHS is providing a good service. [9] The reason for this disparity between personal experience and overall perceptions is not clear. It does seems to be the case that people who are not using the service are the ones most likely to be critical of it and that therefore their opinion must be obtained from somewhere other than their own experience. It is also apparent from the survey that most people realize that the national press is generally critical of the service (64% reporting it as being critical compared to just 13% saying the national press is favourable), and also that the national press is the least reliable source of information (50% reporting it to be not very or not at all reliable, compared to 36% believing the press was reliable). [9] Newspapers were reported as being less favourable and also less reliable than the broadcast media. The most reliable sources of information were considered to be leaflets from GPs and information from friends (both 77% reported as reliable) and medical professionals (75% considered reliable).[9]
I’ve also been treated in Ontario-the doctor said that it wasn’t worth going through the paperwork with my American insurance company, so he treated me for free. BTW, Canadians live 2 years longer than we do, even after you remove gun deaths from the statistics. Why do they live longer? Universal health insurance, that’s why!
Careful Steph – you need a little acid to digest food and these medicines break down the amount of acid your stomach makes.
Proton Pump Inhibitor? Dilithium Crystals Capn!
The engines canna take much more
sorry free associating again
Stephanie, if your candy doctor didn’t keep prescribing the boxed wine, you wouldn’t need the real doctor for the acid reflux.
Two points to the health care issue:
The main idea is to get health care to people who have none. why is the possibility that we might have to wait a bit so others can have the care they need a terrible thing. Hey, aren’t we supposed to be a nation of Christians. Put up or shut up.
Second, I spent a year in Australia and as a visitor I didn’t get access to their public system and had to use the private one. Guess what, with the completion from the public system the private was pretty darn reasonable. This was back in 95, but an office visit cost me $35, Australian.
#131 – my friend in Scotland just received a letter in the mail telling him it was time to come in and get a full physical. He decided to do it since it had been awhile (it’s FREE) and found out he had diabetes. He didn’t have to put it off, worry and be concerned about paying and being on pension.
127 You Go Danielle, wanna see more of yer stuff! Post! Post! Post!
Think some of those folks that “doth protest too much” are the gop payroll…
Once the government option is set up, wouldn’t most workers have the premiums deducted from their paychecks? I understand that many poor and unemployed adults plus many children would have to have their fees either partially or fully subsidized by the guv, but I was thinking many workers would have another payroll deductions.
Health Care: The Public Plan Option
These Democratic Senators have NOT agreed to support it:
Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR)
Senator Tom Carper (D-DE)
Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Senator Ron Wyden (D-OR)
Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE)
Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA)
Senator Kent Conrad (D-ND)
Senator Max Baucus (D-MT)
Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Senator Mark Pryor (D-AR)
Senator Joe Lieberman (I-CT)
from Bill Press’ website. these people need to be called.
re the 3 Stooges of Government.
Sorry, but I think Blago is Moe and Palin is Curley. At least Blago’s got the Moe hair-do (very similar to typical Asian-man hair-cut or like Pete Rose!)
Chris: “Canadia” hee hee
You’re Not Welcome on the Queen’s Land, Eh?!
Momma gonna call in Drunk tomorree
red wine throw up is so hard to get out of light colored doggy coats…
You know, on the health care situation, I got hurt in Canada while I was skiing. I tore some muscles in my abdomen. I was taken from the ski resort by ambulance, and then I got to see a doctor. The doctor took x-rays and did a CT scan of my abdomen to make sure I didn’t do anything other than tear a muscle or two.
Total cost? About a grand, Canadian.
I recently had rotator cuff surgery. Know how much just the hospital would have run me if I didn’t have insurance?
More than two grand.
141 Joey Blabberman ain’t a Democrat
or human
he’s some kind of Sleestak, a reptoid alien
creep in any case. He’s got the best health care
money can buy, so is of the opinion you can just
die in your cardboard box under the overpass
F#&k You Joey. You Whore.
Back…and Ack! Today is the last day they hold the doggy. We can’t adopt her until tomorrow!
#141 – oh, thank you for that list. I’ve been more and more turned off of Diane Feinstein. You can bet all these folks are in the pockets of the insurance companies and big pharma. Tony – you should put this list on your blog!! The more people know who is up to what, the better. These senators should be embarrassed to call themselves Dems.
#141
Feinstein is ALWAYS on those kind of lists.
so tired of her.
Dan, I do see the Blago hair being similar to Moe’s but I had to make the narrative fit. Plus, Curly is known for his hair, and it’s a big ole mop.
#149 Curly is known for his hair?????
“Sanford Blaggo Palin
Which would you screw, marry, kill?”
Kill – Screw – Kill in that order
Blago’s just a punk, total narcisist, he’s probably all talk and no action ladies but used to think he was kinda hot.
The other two are too embarassing to live.
135 Steph smokes candy cigarettes too
http://cardhouse.com/a/candy/bigthumb.htm
“candy cigarettes. Click on a pack to learn more
about the terrible, terrible world of Candy Cigarettes. ”
news item MJ death and Dangers o’prescription drugs:
stay away from pharmaceuticals. Nothing but natural stuff
unless you absolutely got to have it. Me? I eat moldy
bread when I get an infection.
Deb…I try to keep my finance blog non-partisan. You’ll notice that I make economic arguments for things, not political ones. I figure those will resonate better anyway.
One of these days, I will do something about health care. I’ll mention that Americans spend more on health care than any other country, yet have worse results according to third parties.
I’ll also tie it to bankruptcies and the slow economy. Lose your job, lose your insurance, go to the ER. Then you can’t pay the bill, so you lose your house, and you can’t spend. That, writ large, depresses consumer spending and the cycle continues.
Oh, and if you want financial news, don’t watch CNBC. They’ve got a few good reporters, and then they’ve got a lot of junk.
Watch Bloomberg. And they’ve got eye candy on there, too.
They don’t care about the eye candy factor. If you know what you’re talking about, Bloomberg will put you on. But despite this, they do have some eye candy.
fun fact:
Caribieux Moron’s actual middle name is ‘Louise’. Once
again Steph is ahead of the game.
as in
“Stephanie Louise Miller You Get Back In This House or
you’re going to the Home for Girls!”
Bumped and nobody died!
131, 137 – I know that Michael Moore agrees – remember in “Sicko” when he asked a young couple in the NHS taking their newborn home and him asking “How much?” “Nothing,” they replied. “What!?!”
Our girl did it again, still can’t say Equinox, nor define it. Love Her
just got here, so… 13: that’s quite offensive to the average ho… 40: but would you twitter in a boat? would you twitter with a goat?
I went to school with Vernal Equinox.
One of our family friends went on a group tour thru Europe a few years ago and unfortunately fell gravely ill in Switzerland and was in the hospital for several months. Finally she was well enough to fly back to the USA accompanied by two Swiss nurses. Meanwhile back home, thes woman’s heirs had all ‘mentally’ kissed their inheritances goodbye, thinking of course like Americans do that the bills would gobble up everything this woman owned. When they met the plane at the airport they eventually asked the nurses about the bill. And they answered, “What bill? There is no bill!”
146 one more day in Doggy jail
at least you’ll have her home soon!
Happy Beagle! nose in yer crotch
43: is there still bad news in the forest and trouble with the trees? THE RIVER !!! – darned tourettes….
#139: there’s probably a RW troll certification course (Troll 101) where one of the exercises is to call the Steph show and ride that bronco as long as possible.
Time for the Prez to come back home and get the senate in order.
Hey Tony – thanks for the info on your blog. I don’t watch CNBC because it’s basically a news station for Wall Street.
anyone have a spare pencil I can jam in my eye?????
49: a bit derivative… the entire mccain campaign, and the marathon iquitarod are both bedpan art.
Faux News. Rambly and scrambly.
159 I might possibly twitter with a fox in a box… Stephie’s
“Faux and Freaks”… love it
And the Swiss nurses said behind your back “Was ist los mit Die Amerikaner! Sie sind Dumkopf! Zahlung? Es ist keine Zahlung.”
Or they said it in French. I don’t know which.
#149: You should know that Curly Howard (Horovitz) was the bald one (or more like buzzed-down), Larry Fine (Fiengold) had the longish curly hair, and Moe (Moishe) was the one with the mop cut. Schemp also had a bad cut, but not as bad as Moe’s.
The only time Curly ever appeared on the 3 stooges with real hair was in his last appearance, where he was a passenger sleeping in his seat on a train car, that Schemp tripped over. By that time, Crley was quite ill, and he actually died a few months later.
166 knitting needles work well Danielle
63: well duh… just baloney and wonder bread is no way to fly. as the song says, “mayonnaise be merry and bright, and may all your marshmallows be white”.
#171 Correct. Curly was also wearing a false beard, iirc. And iirc Curly had a stroke which caused him to leave the act and was recovering when he made that appearance.
Deb…CNBC does have some good reporting. You just need to know when to watch. Watch early in the morning, when Becky Quick is on. Or watch from 9 AM until 11, when Erin Burnett and Mark Haines are on.
Do not watch when Kudlow or Caruso-Cabrera or Neale are on. They may as well be PR people for the RNC with their talking points.
“Or they said it in French. I don’t know which.”
Or Italian. Or Romansh.
Silly Long Coated Chihuahua he lays on the pig ear so
his mom can’t get it then he cries cause it’s sharp
and hurts his tum… he’s so kooky, he can bark like
a big dog when he wants but he also makes mousie noises
and occasionally meows like a cat when he wants to be
picked up… I’ve never known dogs with such a range of
vocalizations
66: long as the total calories dont exceed avocado’s number.
this caller is right about the Health Coverage = grocery store metaphore
172
The bottom line is we have to do something because what we have is no longer sustainable. These people saying no are only protecting their own self interests and for that reason alone, should not be indulged anymore. It’s time to evolve, try something new and move forward.
71: hannity is obviously too hep for ya, blaring all the metallic 70s burnout rock that the young folks listen to.
To carry the grocery store analogy further, if you’re starving, you have a pre-existing need for groceries, so you can’t buy anything there for a year.
#182 – yeah, he’s so in the loop. You can tell by how well informed he is… right.
There is one problem that I see with universal coverage. Right now, the gatekeepers — the doctors who are internists, GPs, or internal medicine — are overwhelmed. You add 50 million people to the patient base and you will overwhelm the system.
That is a problem that won’t be solved until we make those specialties more attractive to doctors.
89: the dweezil zappa cover of that makes an awesome “stages of the cross” hymn.
#166: Yet another thing you can do with a pencil that you can’t do with a computer.
Yet.
avocado’s number
vegetable head
wait wait what was that? Kid’s In The Hall? Lettuce Head I think
9/11 was an inside job
you don’t need weaponized thermite only Cui Bono
ok, us Steph listeners are smart and all… but does anyone else feel like this guys may be better recieved on Tohm’s show?
#189
you’re kinda right… the seriousness this morning is making me nauseous.
clearly we need more fart jokes and more cowbell.
92: O.B. GYN KENOBI: “the lycanthropy is strong with this one. better let chewie’s gentle touch handle this one…”
Sorry If I missed anything, but just read on Chris’s twitter feed that Frangela asked not to be on anymore. WTF happened?
190- I got his main point and all, I just don’t think nanotechnology and chemical studies are appropriate topics for The Stephanie Miller Show.
I’ll take the queen, Steph french kissing her dogs, and fart jokes any day!
You Are It
We have the habit of always looking outside ourselves, thinking we can get wisdom and compassion from another person or the Buddha or his teachings (Dharma) or our community (Sangha). But you are the Buddha, you are the Dharma, you are the Sangha.
-Thich Nhat Hanh, from Answers from the Heart
Scott…I don’t know why Frangela doesn’t want to be on anymore, but you know what, that’s just fine with me. I never really liked them. They annoyed me.
I didn’t know that Scott… oh, someone’s gotta know something!!
And I tried to inject the Three Stooges into it. Sheesh, people!
93: thank you for that. worth repeating: post 93 link is outstanding.
Sen. Diane Feinstein = DINO
only a Dem as far as her support of women’s right to choose.
SMH
Back to the vat of chocolate incident.
Does anyone else remember the Smothers Bro’s. song?
“I fell into a vat full of chocolate,
I fell into a vat full of chocolate.
What did you do when you fell into the vat full of chocolate?
I yelled FIRE when i fell into the vat full of chocolate.
Why did you yell FIRE when you fell into the vat full of chocolate?
If I’d yelled CHOCOLATE no one would have helped me.”
Those guys pretty much covered it all, ya know?
Vern
103: why worry about a fire 20 miles away? the average garden hose doesnt spray water more than 17 miles.
#200 I was in the car with my wife when we heard that. I started singing the chocolate song.
Because Chris, propaganda is about lying and negating the facts. It comes naturally to them so that’s whey their better at it.
ProducerChris:
Dems let people make up their own minds, Repubs tell people what to think.
Hey, at least death is becoming more appealing!
Long story going into a hard break. Oops!
191 wuz waiting til you got to that one
no one else noticed
thought it was one of my best rip off’s apologies to Mimi Ponds
nice Star Warz ref
And Chris, WHO controls the M$M??? It’s the Rethuglicans. They get to spread their propaganda over and over and over every day until it gets inside people’s heads.
WE NEED TO TURN THE DAMN PRO LIFE ARGUMENT AROUND ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD, IT’S SO OBVIOUS! IF THEY ARE FOR THE LIFE OF THE UNBORN FETUS, THEN THEY DAMN WELL NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY ARE NOT FOR THE LIVES OF THOSE OF US WHO ARE ALREADY BORN!!!
FROM NOW ON THEY ARE NOT PRO-LIFE- THEY ARE PRO-HMO
AND WE ARE NOT JUST PRO-CHOICE- WE ARE PRO-HEALTH, PRO-PROGRESS, PRO-REFORM, AND WE, BY GOD, ARE THE TRUE PRO-LIFE GROUP!!
IS ANYONE ELSE THIS FREAKING ANGRY!?!?!?!?!?
121: steph can also say “syzygy”, but unfortunately, it translates to something a bit flirtatious in wookie. the sudden outburst of laffter during the exam almost caused the sequined glove to get damaged.
200. that’s similar to the guy who fell into the outhouse pit and yelled “fire” because nobody would have come if he’d yelled what he was really into.
#209
spot on. and yes, “a little angry.”
#195 – I didn’t really care for them at first either, but over time they started to grow on me.
209 it’s going to be OK Danielle.
The Forced-Birthers are doomed, their day has passed.
An idea who’s time has come cannot be stopped.
128: more repug plaigiarism.. in “enter the dragon”, bruce lee’s character had plaigiarized the chuang tzu precept of “fighting without fighting”.
#209 – YUP!! Have had it with their hypocrisy more than anything else, their narrow mindedness, their blind obedience to religious dogma.
And union contracts would not be tied to health care costs as well. There’s a big $ saver right there.
209 Yep, I’m mad, but I’m fighting mad, so I won’t shut up about health care!!!
The Senate are all on drugs or in late-stage syphilis
a possible way to end all abortions:
artifical wombs.
if the Pro-Lifers were really Pro-Life they’d support the much discussed “public option” and would be down for developing artificial external wombs for cases where a pregnant woman has died but the baby lived, for those who do not want to carry their baby and for infertile couples who cannot bear their own.
TAKE THAT anti-science RWNJs~!
#185: those 50 million are already using the system, they don’t just die alone in the streets, you know. What they do is wait until they get REALLY sick, then get admitted to the hospital. What 50 million people having insurance WILL do is keep people from overwhelming the emergency rooms, as well as the bankruptcy courts
One of the best arguments for universal coverage is this — GM, Chrysler, and Ford spend more on health insurance than they do on steel. Universal coverage that’s not tied to the company probably would have kept them out of chapter 11.
155: i once went to the home for girls. the one i really wanted was bea arthur (i had seen the photo shoot from “airheads”.), but i was only able to retrieve estelle getty.
#219 lmfao K2tG
Being in the Healthcare industry as well, all be it on the technology side, I can verify everything that caller just said is correct… the denials from private carriers are ubsurd! Like denying for “Not Medically Necessary” after a doctor, OBVIOUSLY, deemed a procedure necessary…
I am not joking I have seen claims for a missed abortion, with a young women bleeding internally, that have been denied for this reason!
166: darn it. i wish i could help. i’ve been searching and searching, and all i can offer you is this swimming pool noodle. sorry, it’s not very sharp.
Alex, what I’m saying is that you will see longer waits to see a doctor. That’s all. It is the inevitable effect of putting 50 million more customers into the system without increasing the staff that’s available to take care of them.
It will be a problem until we get more doctors coming out of med school to practice internal medicine or general practice. That takes time.
It is the downside of universal coverage. Everything has a downside to it.
Maine resident here…the mindset among a lot of fellow liberals that I’ve spoken to is that it really won’t pass. The pro-marriage side is WAY better organized than the anti-marriage side.
Jim, that was a great Maine accent. Can we hear more? Please?!
#190: speaking of seriousness, didn’t the promos for today’s show promise us something about “the President in Rome”? Just sayin’.
This is like “Queen For A Day” (sob
)
That guy may be waiting a while for that stone…
194: the walrus is on second, but the egg man is on third? – that’s very confusing.
210 syzygy = double kitty in Steph-talk
It’s all spelled out in the move “Sicko”. Just rent it, give it to people, spread it around like a virus.
Aurora Greenway is one of my favorite characters.
200: nitpicking is such a drag.
“why did you yell, ‘RUMSFELD’S PARTNER IN SYSTEMATIC MURDER’, when al quaeda struck, and you had personnel within 28 feet of capturing osama bin laden?”
“if i yelled ‘READY, AIM, FIRE’, nobody would have seen me wear the ‘mission accomplished’ codpiece”.
K- Sicko has a great point, but there have been some proven exaggerations in it… the info is out there, like on the World Health Org site… without any bias… repubs are too against Mike Moore to agree with anything he says… they need to see it as undisputable FACT!
202: what in the world does theoldbromean by this?
Ben…I met a Maine resident a little bit ago. She was cute, she was nice, and I even got her to say “ayuh” or whatever it is you Maine people say instead of “yeah.”
Only problem is that she works for the RNC. Now if she’s a Susan Collins or Olympia Snowe type republican, I can deal with that. If she’s like a Huckabee, it ain’t gonna work.
223 Steph was sent to the Upper North Western New York State
Home For Young Hussies and Trollops for truculence and malicious
bone-hawking
but she broke out
so they sent her to Catholic School for the nuns to beat some
manners and sense of propriety into her
obviously ditint work
thank God
205: i knew MJ and carradine were influential trendsetters, but this is extreme.
232. koo-koo-ka-choo.
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Hey….there is good news in this recession. Bloomberg is reporting that the price of luxury wines is falling. Steph may no longer need to get box wine!
Can it be done? I’m doing my part right now by posting this.
211: moody blue graeme edge experienced delay in getting married to “sue”, because of the problematic name, “sue edge”.
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SPARTA! (Damn, always premature!) Ti He He
240. Bone Queen?
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237. agreed. it would motivate normal people into action maybe
Dang, no Sparta yet? Bunch’a slackers! (just kidding)
TRAPSA?
I think we should demand the same coverage as our Congress Critters!
#254 I’m blaming you. You took off after post 1! LOL
It’ll happen if it happens. Don’t sweat it. Sparta yes, Sparta no, it’s all good.
They actually had something on the last stand of the 300 in the History Channel today! Good stuff!
242: speaking of “go kick a jew”, the latest hitler laments are out…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IzNPEGWNos
If Sarah Palin was in charge of the 300 at Themopylae, they’d have said, screw this, we can’t win, let’s quit.
They barely passed the energy bill.
thanks again guys for all the kind words and letting me vent… feel much better now…
What would I do with out the love of the Stephanie Miller Family!?!?!?
GROUP HUG!!!
(See that cute commercial yesterday must have rubbed off on me!)
#257 Sorry ’bout that. I’m on lunch break from class.
259…..YES! I was waiting for that!
you can keep sparta. i just want to borrow stephy coated in greece.
#260
Palin: NOT a Spartan.
#260 Palin would have taken off with Xerxes on a snow machine.
if we can’t make Sparta, may I just sign off with the lovable “BARK PARK”
TARPSA?
Schpeakin’ O’Schparta anyone remember the old
comic strip in the National Lampoon
‘Hercules Amongst The North Americans’ by Mark Marek
still on line somewheres, google it
very funny
259. Oh no! poor Hitler. first MJ…
#266 I don’t think there is any Elvis in Palin, either!
264: you were waiting to go kick a jew? you sick puppy. you and norm coleman have fun.
30 posts to the Peloponnese
The Gods Look With Favor on our enterprise
oh no! we fell short
FLAVIN!
Too little too late. Show’s over.
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Later, guys! That Hitler thing is going up on my blog at Salon. Talk about going viral!
press on regardless
Come on, the summit is in sight!
Thallata! Thallata!
we almost made it to Sparta… good try.
*waves*
If only we had someone who would put up a bunch of nonsense so we could reach Sparta….
Geez, somebody’s quitting (and this time it’s not Palin!)
Throw out the lifeline,
Throw out the lifeline,
Sombody’s drifting away, away….
#283 I’ve been trying, ever since I came back.
Hitler liked dogs and children, had no idea what was going
on
it was all Himmler’s fault
Dolf retired to his modest estate in Argentina…
blah blah blah rot in hell , Hitler you prototypical rethug bastarde
I love it that fascist style republicans refer to Obama as a fascist.
So close to SPARTA, yet so far!
APARTS
9 to go
A moral victory (post show Sparta)?
8
Make that 6
Better late than never I always say.
4
Guess there’s just a handful still standing (just like Thermopylae).
Or is that better never than late?
Once more with feeling! Sparta!
Sparta?
Sparta!
Okay, so I lacked feeling and was tentative. But I DID IT!
spartulation
Hooray for LeftCenter!
There you go, LeftCenter! *bows*
Have a great day!
Once more the Spartan crown lies in beautiful Joliet, City of Champions.
See y’all tomorrow!
Thank you. And so long everybody!
FARTSPA?