LiveBlog for Tuesday, February 3, 2009
Read Steve Young’s new story asking the folks at MSNBC to consider Stephanie Miller for a new show!
• Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY) calls in at 6:30am Pacific to discuss President Obama’s stimulus plan.
• Richard Greene, host of “Clout,” calls in at 8:05am Pacific to discuss the progressive celebrity focus of his radio show.
• The U.S. Senate confirmed Eric Holder as attorney general yesterday, voting 75-21 to place him in charge of the Department of Justice. His confirmation makes him the first African-American confirmed to the post, though he held the job on an acting basis in 2001.
• Republican Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire has accepted President Obama’s offer to be commerce secretary and the announcement is scheduled for today. In a move that will leave the balance of the Senate unchanged, NH’s Dem governor will name a GOPer to replace Gregg.
• Dem senators stood behind Heath and Human Services Secretary-designate Tom Daschle yesterday after a closed-door session of the Senate Finance Committee on the former SD senator’s tax troubles. The committee is expected to hold a hearing on Daschle’s nomination next week.
• A group of GOP senators have drafted an alternative stimulus measure that narrows government spending to infrastructure programs and helping unemployed Americans, address the housing crisis, and relies mostly on tax cuts. Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has dismissed the idea that the GOP is trying to block passage of the Dems’ stimulus plan.
Tags: Barack Obama, Eliot Engel, Eric Holder, Judd Gregg, Mitch McConnell, Richard Greene, Tom Daschle
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Gooood morning everyone.
Played a little again in the StephSpace last night, where’s Mama & our Voice Deity?
Waiting for another 3-6″ of s**w tonight. Wish they’d just give it to us in one big dumping.
Good morning Mama, mooks et al and Paul!
Just send any excess snow to NM – we need the water.
Mornin’, Paul and the rest of our Live Blog crew! Good morning to Team Steph. Hope everyone is feeling well today.
Mornin’ capt. Didn’t see you until after my fist post.
fist = first (Freudian much?)
Morning, all! Back from a fun weekend with the folks in Dallas. Discovered Facebook and am trying not to let it suck the life out of me.
Guten Morgen, Steph-heads! Did anyone shout at their radio yesterday when Steph reported on Sarah Palin’s boots being sold on Ebay? I was under the impression she was supposed to give all of the RNC clothes back, so they could be given to charity. Maybe I just believed in Sarah Palin a little too much.
Must be a slow news day, I’m struggling to find any big stories.
In Tinsel Talk…
Will Ferrell’s spoof of former President George Bush may be the hottest ticket in town (his Broadway show “You’re Welcome America: A Final Night With George W. Bush”), but it’s a lap-dancing Condoleezza Rice (played by Pia Glenn) – and her red panties – that steal the show.
Details:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/arts/2009/02/01/2009-02-01_actress_pia_glenns_sultry_lap_dance__and.html
7
She’s her own charity, dontcha know you betcha.
Peter, the StephSpace seems to be sucking my time away from the Facecrack. They’re both conspiring to suck what little life I have away from me.
First terrorist fist bump?
I think we need more coffee! (I know I do)
Good morning PeterW, Shaf, Charlie
Another great day in the making.
#6 Yes, my addiction to Facebook is rivaled only by the relaunched Stephanie Miller site.
#11, you should totally get a commission for that plug.
#9, I haven’t dug into Stephspace too deeply. I imagine if I did, I’d do neither work nor practice.
Good morning, Paul,capt, shaf, Peter, and Charlie.
So you guys are fist posting? Do we live in the penalty box now?
I’m pretty mad at Tom Daschle. And we are counting on him for health care reform. I’m not so sure he does understand.
From plumber (non-licensed) to journalist (un-trained) to now GOP advisor, Joe Wurzelbacher’s 15-minutes of fame have now gone into double-overtime…
From Politco:
Details:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0209/18324.html
If this is the resource that the GOP needs to tap to bring its staffers together, they are so boned!
Morning Carol – did I mention you look marvelous today?
Caribou Joe!
lolololo
oh, capt! and you’ve been working out again!
What a handsome blogging group we are.
#14, I’m a little mad at Obama for nominating a sleazy insider like Daschle to a post that needs a reformer, not someone who spent his career being bribed by the industry he’s supposed to reform.
Kucinich would have been a better choice – Oh well!
Like with Rick Warren, Barack has a personal relationship with Tom Daschle. Let’s hope Tommy takes direction and proves equal to Barack’s expectations.
Boy, our democratic congresspeople are indeed the wimps we pegged them for. They definately need our input.
#19 Agreed. He’s made millions as a “tactical consultant” to the health care industry since leaving the Senate. Sounds too chummy for my comfort.
#21, we can hope that Daschle won’t be as selfish and small as Warren was in the position for which Obama picked him.
Here’s an old-time scientist guy that Steph could really get behind:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Drinker_Cope
Edward Drinker Cope (July 28, 1840 – April 12, 1897) was an American paleontologist and comparative anatomist, as well as a noted herpetologist and ichthyologist.
Born to a wealthy Quaker family, Cope quickly distinguished himself as a child prodigy interested in science; he published his first scientific paper in 1859. Cope married his cousin and had several children, moving closer to the marl pits of Haddonfield, New Jersey to be near fossil finds.
Obama: ‘One-term proposition’ if no fix
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/02/obama_oneterm_proposition_if_n.html
LOL @ Joe the Plumber
Why do the Republitards keep trotting out this discredited loser?
Snooping for Dollars: Facebook cashing in on “friends”
ugh!
#24 Since we’re noting milestones in Wikipedia, congratulations to Jóhanna Sigurðardóttir who is now become Prime Minister of Iceland, and the first openly gay head of government in modern times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Johanna_sigurdardottir_official_portrait_cropped.jpg
28 – Yeah but she’s a lesbian, so that’s OK. Right, Squeezy?
good morning eMooks, livebloggers and Stephophiles…
looks like we are all up early.
#27 Thanks for the head-up, capt. That indeed makes me nervous (that Facebook may sell access to its demographic information for marketing purposes).
¡¡¡¡¡Buenos días mis amigos del Stephanie Miller Show!!!!!
#32 Ach! My yamsack takes enough of a beating without deliberately trying to damage it!
#32
lol Inadequate
#34, no kidding. Isn’t that what the inseam of jeans is for?
#35 meant to refer to #33, but things got mucked up when a post disappeared.
Mods (George or ProducerChris), could you find some way to delete the content of the post without deleting the post entirely, so this sort of reference mismatch doesn’t happen?
Maybe just something like
#32
#35
that coming from someone who doesn’t wear any pants…
*snicker*
Not to mention the dreaded cello scrotum (see yesterday’s show)
Boo my post got deleted
#37 I wear pants most days still. I only wear a skirt about once a week on average, which is still way more than most women wear one these days.
Morning Bloggies!
#40,
But that is because you have better legs!
Grrrrr – oh behave capt!
Good morning, live blageurs! Happy Tuesdee!
Made it two days in a row
Yeah, it seems to be a slow news day. As I’m watching early AM cable TV, I’m struck how right-wing tools seem to be on every show and are being allowed to spout their toolie talking points without challenge. It’s like it’s 2003 again! Why is liberalism so marginalized by the press in the USA? Why are genuine liberals so rare in government?
“Made it two days in a row”
Well, congrats to the BF (or is it GF?)
*skates*
I have work to do so I must go. Maybe back by lunchtime, you will have to Sparta without me.
In any event, I try to check into the chat once in a while at night. I suspect I’ll be a the computer all night tonight massaging some audio files.
Have fun.
#42, you’re damned right I do.
44 – But it’s a Left Wing Media™
#44
the Bush era clamp-down on MSM only ended a couple weeks ago, but methinks we’ll see the after-effects of the “dumbing-down” for the rest of our lifetimes.
#44,
Corporate media has their own agenda. Part of which is to peddle the SCLM meme – the other is to promote any voice in favor of war or against labor.
So sez the prophet profit!
“massaging some audio files.”
I think it is “audiophiles”
I hope you massage for a “happy release” for the audiophiles in your life!
*skates* (wait a minute I’m already in the box)
50 – Exactly! Ever notice who pays for the commercials on MSM news shows? Keep an eye on it next time you watch one and see if you can count any “left wing” organizations advertising during the show.
#52
“clean coal” BS
Boeing is pro-America
Exxon –”ya gotta love em because ya need the juice!”
etc etc
And today marks the 50th anniversary (Feb. 3, 1959) of the death of Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens and the Big Bopper in a plane crash, shortly after taking off from Clear Lake, Iowa. Their deaths would be immortalized in the Don McLean song “American Pie.”
Wow… I’ve been gone for a while… everyone starts so early these days… good morning, all…
And American Pie has again been immortalized by Garth Brooks at the Inaugural bash…
Hi leo!
#50, we’ve also moved from the era of working-class journalists to the era of upper-class pundits. No wonder the “news” will be so slanted.
this coffee’s not working fast enough.
i’m cold.
when’s the damn show start?
<———codger-y at the young age of 32.
Hello, baby? This is the Big Bopper speaking….
54 – Important to note “song” and not “the movie franchise”. I’m not sure if they’ve “immortalized” anything except maybe boob shots and someone getting kicked in the crotch.
#52,
I never watch the M$M or corporate info-tainment shows.
Took all the CNN, MSNBC, etc channels off of our line-up years ago.
We can get any of the “good” clips on the youtubes or as just clips. I get the good KO special comments and whatnot – without the rest of the BS.
#58
I agree, which is why the blogosphere is so important. If only bloggers could get folks to support us.
oh, baby! You know what I like!
60 – “… do you own a timeshare and want to sell it? Call 1-800-TIMESHARE and tell ‘em the Big Bopper sent ya.”
#58 In addition, fewer and fewer journalists come through the newspaper ranks. Good habits are established in that environment (like fact-checking) that I fear are not adhered-to in the broadcast media.
“oh, baby! You know what I like!”
Oh, I WISH!
Grrrrr – yeah baby (Austin Powers voice)
SHOWTIME!
*jazz hands*
Hello, hello, hello from Maryland. It finally warmed up enough yesterday to melt the ice we had and now it’s snowing. Ugh, I have so had enough of the wintry stuff.
#61 Inadequate Blackmail, you seem to have that a-a-area on your mind this morning.
It’s Miller Time!
#68 Hello from a former Marylander in Arizona… 77 today…
Michael Steele is an empty suit… the GOP will find that out soon enough…
Jon Stewart nailed when he asked:
(speaking to the GOP)
“You know it isn’t just any black guy?”
lololololo
#71 Milt – Beam me there, please!
#66, why bother fact-checking on broadcast media? The overwhelming majority of broadcast “news”, by time, is the voicing of opinions, whether editorializing by pundits or the unsupported opinions of interviewees.
69 – I got my mind on my money and my money on my mind
Michael “Hard As” Steele
Rush Limpbaugh wishes he was …
High balls were my mom’s favorite tranquilizer in the sixties.
#74 — I have an extra room… you’re more than welcome…
Six degrees of Bacon?
funny after you eat the bacon explosion that exactly what your hear does
Morning Bloggoes (shaf, carol, capt, et al…),
Happee Tuesdee
Cheers,
mfaye
Pork – the other white meat.
Better the pork board than the pork sword…
I’ve got your “other white meat” right here!
#72, Michael Steele made up a story about oreos being thrown at him while running for Governor of MD, to try claim victim status. The story grew over a few years from a few rolling at his feet to the air raining thick with them. The dude is pathetic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Steele
Morning Fay…
Top of the morning mfaye (and all that have joined us today!)
Morning Blaggoes.
Corporate CEOs get paychecks for doing nothing
It’s called a “golden parachute”
As opposed to just writing checks worth $350 billion without any oversight then offer dedacted documents with the amounts redacted.
THAT is okay with the RWNJ’s.
UGH!
#86… Steele has never actually run a successful political campaign… and they make him the head of the RNC? He was with Cleary Gottlieb for years, and never went beyond associate. His greatest claim to fame is that he’s Mike Tyson’s former brother-in-law. He’s not a token, is he?
Exactly how can you give a tax break to people who dont pay taxes..
I’m takin’ what they’re givin’, ’cause I’m workin’ for a livin’!
dedacted? I mean redacted – of course.
NO ONE is dumber than Hannity
Those people who “don’t pay taxes” pay FICA, sales tax, property taxes (through their rent checks to their landlord).
In fact, as a portion of their income, the poor pay more in taxes than the rich, whose incomes taxes are capped at 15% while they sit on their asses waiting for the dividend checks to come in.
Interesting trivia -
A local Rockville,Maryland woman, Judy Schlecht, is within two degrees of Kevin Bacon. Her 1959 wedding dress was bought on eBay by the costume designer for “The Closer”. It has been featured in the last two episodes as Kyra Sedgwick’s wedding dress.
I saw him walk on water last Sunday
:P
Why isn’t anyone suggesting that the tax code is just too damned complicated?
#92,
I read somewhere the GOP paid Steele to run for something.
I hope he stays and brings on Palin or Joe the plumber – it is their destiny
What BillO knows about the economy could fit into a very small thimble
#90, don’t forget massive bonuses to CEOs whose companies lose money.
My company only pays bonuses – to anyone – when we turn a healthy profit.
Hi bye everyone! Off to catch a bus. Have a good live-blog and day! Sounds like Voice Deity is gonna rip today!
100 – Flat tax, baby
good morning
Speaking of American Pie, I’m a Waylon fan. I saw Waylon Jennings in, say 1972 in a small space in Harvard Square. We sat on folding chairs (maybe 100 people) and I was in front not 10 feet from him. Yes, folks, he sang to me, but even tho I know he didn’t really, I feel in love. What a handsome man! and what a voice! Saw him again maybe 10years ago, but he couldn’t play the guitar because of carpal tunnel problems. I read he had surgery and is ok now.
From his website:
When as a young man he moved to … “Lubbock, he got a job at the radio station KLLL, where he befriended Buddy Holly during one of the station’s shows. Holly became Waylon’s mentor, teaching him guitar licks, collaborating on songs, and producing Jennings’ first single, “Jole Blon,” which was released on Brunswick in 1958. Later that year, Waylon became the temporary bass player for Holly’s band the Crickets, playing with the rock & roller on his final tour. Jennings was also scheduled to fly on the plane ride that ended in Holly’s tragic death in early 1959, but he gave up his seat at the last minute to the Big Bopper, who was suffering from a cold.
The disaster stunned Jennings, and it took him several years to regain his momentum. But his time with Holly had been pivotal: “Mainly what I learned from Buddy,” Jennings recalled, “was an attitude. He loved music, and he taught me that it shouldn’t have any barriers to it.” “
#96
O’Reilly is a close contender…
96 i would say Rush Limbaugh was dumber than Hannity, but really Limbaugh is just high.
Heya Milt,
Are you new to these parts? If you are, welcome, if you’ve been around for awhile, ‘scuse me – I drop in and out as my job allows
Cheers,
mfaye
Why does anyone listen to Gingrich?
He shouldn’t be able to speak without someone noting that he’s a failed politician..
Gingrich is lying – 76% of the money is direct stimulus spent over 18 months.
The “pork” they’re complaining about is less than half a percent of the total spending.
The media is playing along with the lie by not pointing that out.
103 – My company is virtually recession proof and I’ll be getting a bonus this year
God, I hate Bill O. What a peanut.
#97,
WORD!
Sadly the poor and lower income folks can’t lobby any politician. Not enough scratch to sit at the table.
I HATE that!
#105, it’s no accident that the rich and corrupt are the biggest pushers of the flat tax: because they pay even less under it.
Catching up *reads* Gods you guys are good…
Faye… I’m kinda irregular… and I was in australia for the last three months, meaning I would have had to stay up past midnight to Live blog…
Hmmm, well San Francisco does have its own “moat”
Cry me a FREAKIN’ RIVER, you FREAKIN’ ^#&@%$&#^!!!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/2/144544/9825
#103 I also like the proposal that executive compensation needs to be in deferred stock options, so that execs make long-term growth decisions, instead of only this quarter’s bottom line.
Newt
why would we think you are alive just because you have a beating heart?
The right wingers are scared to death of the stimulus, because they know damn well it’ll work.
Just a thought.
The republican strategy in congress right now it to block everything, prevent Obama from getting anything accomplished….
Which is the same strategy they used in ’06-’08, prevent the democratic controlled congress from getting anything done and then run on the ‘do nothing congress’. Well that strategy worked GREAT last time!
So, You Spent $10 Million on a Super Bowl Party? Update/KO Video Link
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/2/154032/3757
Breaking News: Labor has caused the economic crisis!
Mornin’ Cup of Crap!
I’m dancing around my XM Radio right now listening to Stephie – FINALLY – XM is carrying Stephanie for the full 3 hours. Woo-Hoo!
#100 “Why isn’t anyone suggesting that the tax code is just too damned complicated?”
You talking about regular people or politicians? Politicians like it because when its complicated, its easier to slip in your special interest into the tax code. if its simple it would stick out like a sore thumb.
Tired of Being Lectured by the Rich About Need for Austerity
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/2/81624/33313
#120 I’ll add the word “bonuses” to my post.
BREAKING: New CBO report debunks GOP stimulus talking points
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/2/17518/68664
yup. I’m in Rapture…
Morning!
Stock options should either not be allowed as compensation, or they should be taxed as regular income. Do you realize the people who win on Price is Right have to pay taxes on their prizes, but execs pay nothing on their stock options, until they sell them? That’s just wrong.
Hubby’s company is announcing the third round of layoffs this morning. The previous round was two weeks ago. This one is going to hit the Washington and New York offices. Freelance positions have been decimated and now union members are going to be hit. About 10% will be let go.
Milt @ 122, well, think about it. They leave power while the economy is imploding, and Obama fixes it all with a little creative spending, in, like, 3.2 days after being in office. They’ve gotta save their phoney-baloney jobs!
120 – I’m down with that proposal. Also, need to end the golden parachute thing. And also, ban these execs from sitting on more than one corporate board. Part of the problem is that they wash each others’ backs in different corporations, thus perpetuating the “good ole boys” network and now allowing anyone else to sit at the table.
Palin’s Alaska Lost $1 BILLION in the Stock Market
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/2/17712/33643
Morning Blogoes.
#120, we need to discourage, using the tax code, people from making most of their compensation from bonuses and the like; as opposed to salary and commissions. It’s a very corrupting influence, especially at top levels.
demdame @ 134, I’m sorry to hear it, I’m sure you must be worried *hugs you*
This American chose suicide over financial ruin from medical bills
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/2/82326/29656
Leo, I agree… the right wing is bye bye… only they have no idea
Hussain in Spain!
#134 I wondered how things were going with your hubbie, demdame. I saw the recent press on things in the industry, and it didn’t look good.
Keeping fingers crossed that he doesn’t feel the pain of layoff.
Bill-O is such a MAN! IJTUIMMALB!
I drink a healthy glass of rageahol every morning
No ideas, no positive thoughts for the future of the country, let alone their own party, not one good thang to say = today’s GOP
Cheers,
mfaye
My idea for the tax code is to pick one percentage and take it off the top of any compensation, regardless of who pays or where it comes from. Some friends of mine figured it up, and the figure we found was doable was about 8%. Imagine, everyone has 8% taken off the top, regardless. Even the poor could live with that, as that would replace SS and Medicare. No forms, no IRS, and the tax cheats would stick out like a sore thumb.
Someone mentioned Palin… I hope above all hope that Palin runs in 2012, I’ll even contribute just to keep her campaign running long enough to hear her debate Barack. That’d be a giggle!
I think Michael Phelps bunted that (pun intended)
PeterW, I’ll agree and go you one better: we need to get these b-school frat boys at the top of these corporations and banks and whattheeffever and start to get some execs and boards who have demonstrated actual ethics. The RWNJs are quick to talk about my virtues, but they seem to be taking their time talking about business ethics…Maybe “don’t be greedy” doesn’t pack ‘em in the aisles like “don’t suffer the homosex!”, ya think?
I love Mama’s motto for the GOP: “Hey, we’ve got a black guy, too!”
“Keeping fingers crossed that he doesn’t feel the pain of layoff.”
Sending all my positive vibes your way –
*everything crossed*
with interest – NOT penalties
FOIST IT ON ME …
FOIST IT ON ME
“Joe the Plummer Now Advising Republican Party” HL on HuffPo says it all
Cheers,
mfaye
Top ‘o the mornin’ to all fine bloggonists! How are you all?
Some new and interesting photos in the Stephspace.. many of us seem to be cat fans. Maybe because, like many of us, they are actually independent as heck.
Damn, I’ll love to slap Hannity. I’ll bet if I slapped him on the side of the head, a gallon of snot would fly out and stick to the wall.
Now that Bush is no longer prez – I quit taking “Fucitol” everyday.
arggg bunted = BLUNTed
Thanks leorising and shaf. We’ll see what happens. I’m sure glad that my mini-me is graduating in May (probably, maybe, sure hope so). College sure takes a bite out of our budget.
I see it’s been busy this morning…
Sarah and Joe (the plumber..), now THERE’s a winning ticket for the Repubs in ’12..
demdame @ 159, lol, you’ll be getting a raise! that’s happy news
#148, if 8% off the top could get us our current budgetary levels, why is it that the average person pays around 25% net?
Your math didn’t add up, and is regressive to boot. There’s a reason liberals are for progressive taxation and Steve Forbes is for a flat tax.
And thanks to you too capt for your warm thoughts.
Ivan @ 161, I posted “Palin/Blago 2012!” in a random comment over at HuffPo, and got some raspberries.
Palin-Wurtzelbacher 2012!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
Hmmm.. tax money to the people not making enough money to pay taxes! Wow, that notion blisters Republican butts.. Actually, anything that does not enrich the rich further blisters them.
#158 For a sec, I thought it was a new term (coming from a guy who didn’t know what a “420″ meant).
Demdame… my “little one” just joined the Army to pay for college… I’m proud and scared at the same time… and as a single parent for 18 years, the nest feels really empty, lemme tell ya…
I still don’t get the argument that it isn’t “fair” for everyone to pay the same PERCENTAGE of their income, regardless of the actual number.
capt, I find “damitol” helps with everyday economic meltdown stress, it’s not as strong as fucitol
#127 I noticed when I got in the car yesterday all 3 hours on XM! WOO HOO…No more young turks before Steph come on.
You can bunt a blunt – or does that only work on the second blunt?
Awwwwwww-www! *sniffs, hugs Milt* ^_^
#171,
Damitol? I never tried that one!
lolololo
Oh, Sarah and Joe, how folksie! Problem is that the slack-jawed mouth-breathing republicans just might push them through. They love stupid.
Actually, I think the true Republicans are for excusing wealthy from ALL taxes, in perpetuity.. After all, these are the PRODUCERS, the creators of JOBS, and clearly the most wonderful class of people on the planet. WHY should they be “punished” for making a lot of money? Shouldn’t we simply excuse them from taxes forever? Shouldn’t we all grovel over and ask for a job cleaning their houses, trimming their shrubs, washing their cars, taking care of their snotty kids? Shouldn’t we just be kissing their asses?
What’s WRONG with people?
#148, One of the biggest problems I see with a flat tax is an assumption that all loop holes and exceptions would be removed. The thing is that would not ever happen, there will always be exception to income tax weather implicit or explicit. Even if they where successfully removed originally we couldn’t go one election cycle before they would be back.
#167, Republicans say that because – to them – income tax is the only tax. So, basically, they’re lying.
In fact, because Social Security is running a surplus, which goes straight into general revenues, people who pay no income taxes are still very much still paying taxes into the treasury, even beyond entitlements.
#170, because high income people impose far greater costs on society and government, as a fraction of their income, than working people do.
Mama, their ideas are that they’ll be shown to be greedy fools if we fix the economy so fast, imo…
Milt,
It’ll be alright. I have a good vibe and I am psychic (read: psycho)
Seriously, I have a few pals that have or are serving.
It would be scary as a parent – no matter what.
*hugs*
#177… the only way a flat tax can work is if all loopholes and exceptions are removed. Which is why it’s a pipe dream…
Thanks, Capt. I feel better knowing we’ll be out of Iraq and Afghanistan soon…
Milt – My husband paid for college on the GI bill, back in the day. I’m glad it’s still an option (or something much like it). I don’t blame you for being scared, but I have hope that Obama will take much better care of our military.
And I agree, empty nesting is painful.
#181, the only way a flat tax could work is if we were to go back to the inequities of the 19th century.
Seriously, our highest periods of national prosperity were when the taxation on top incomes were the highest, not the lowest.
Flat tax or alternative minimum for all Corporations?
Small or large – nobody rides for free. No loopholes just a fair share?
(spitballin)
Of course, the grand irony is that the top “earners” manage to pay a smaller percentage of their total income than the waitress living on tips..
Actually, Repubs tend to be the deep dippers in the government trough, but again, hypocrisy is the trademark of these people. Few of them have actually worked for a living for years, often never at all.
#170 – regressive tax policy places a far greater burden on lower income people than higher.
Consider a 34% rate: someone making $20,000 per year keeps $13,200
someone making $2,000,000 keeps $1,320,000
#184 — the rates were higher then, but rich people didn’t pay anything. That’s why the AMT was implemented in the late 1960s. We’re actually better off with a moderate tax rate with few loopholes.
straydogma, hey there! @ 177, it could be of benefit. The current tax code is tens of thousands of pages long, and incredibly convoluted. I think a simpler new tax code (I was for flat tax, but PeterW is making some good points) would be a good reset. We should probably do it every decade or so, anyway, because you’re right, the riders and exceptions and penalties just get more arcane.
Shane-o… I hope we never have a system wherein someone making $20,000 has to pay a third in federal tax…
But Shane-O.. don’t you know, Repubs envy the poor – not having to pay taxes (ignoring all the other taxes they DO pay, just to live). Shouldn’t we simply excuse our Noble Wealthy from any fiscal responsibilities? Let the be FREE – to go forth and create jobs for all us Peed-ons..
#188, that’s simply factually untrue. The rich had shelters, but they paid plenty. The actual number that weren’t paying anything were comparatively few, and the AMT was mainly outrage theater.
“Talk the walk and walk the talk”
Regressive is a descriptive word for a tax policy that punishes those least able to pay.
Come on, don’t we all agree with Gekko (sp?) – “Greed is good..”?
I prefer to speak the walk
Mama might have better luck marrying Rachel Maddow?
And I should add – a flat tax would be “fair” – by definition.
But if we want to be completely “fair” – should not every person who works 40 hours (or 50, 60) – get paid the EXACT same amount?
It’s the upper echelons of income that like the flat tax – unfair pay scales, but make damn sure the tax structure is fair!
#192 — No Peter, it’s not untrue. The Alternative Minimum Tax was created because almost none of the top 6% of earners paid any tax at all. Go Google it. It’s a historical fact…
On Taxes and fairness. I still say the only way to make takes fair is to have some sort of progressiveness in the taxes. generally speaking there are 3 classes of incomes and percentages of income affect them differently. A flat tax would be fair to middle class as it would most likely be designed on their living standard. The working poor on the other hand do not have disposable income, they live pay check to pay check and often have to budget food (how much can I afford to eat this 2 weeks)medication ect. do you want people making decisions on if they should see a doctor, feed there kids 3 meals a day, or paying taxes?
For you gear heads out there, I just saw this post on Jalopnik.com (sister site of Defamer.com):
Details:
http://jalopnik.com/5145161/chris-bangle-quits-bmw-auto-industry
#189, most of the complexities in the tax code are for businesses.
I’d be for tax simplification, especially at the top end, but for the average person, it’s pretty simple, despite the annual whining. Especially for those that take the standard deduction.
But the progressive nature of taxation needs to remain. Indeed, “tax simplification” is the trojan horse the crooked rich use to push for regressive taxation. Don’t fall for it!
I think we should flatten the tax, double the minimum wage, and put in single payer health insurance… guess what… economy fixed..
Hell, the wealthiest people begrudge the minimum wage.. when 2/3 of the people getting it are 20 or over.. Our Noble Wealthy class sure haven’t gone since 1996 before increasing THEIR wages!
Now, get ready for the Repubs to roll out their “class warfare” arguments.
Speaking of Bahner, wouldn’t it be fun to just run him through a car wash and see his TRUE colors??
The Republicans need to dispose of their political spackle and paste.
No, peter… a flat tax with no exceptions — with the tax being paid for ALL income, regardless of source — would not be regressive. Right now, CEOs don’t pay anything on stock options or deferred compensation, while clerks at 7-11 pay 15% for SS and Medicare on their $6 an hour.
#190 – I only picked the 34% number because that was the estimate candidate Mike Huckabee came up with during the 2008 Republican Primaries when pushing the flat tax
Imagine if the rate was 70%?
Hey, didn’t Mark Ebner mention “Girls Gone Wild” creator Joe Francis yesterday? Seems Joe was arrested in Los Angeles after he showed up five hours late for a court hearing in his tax evasion case.
Details:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/02/girls-gone-wild-joe-franc_n_163356.html
Losey-Hymen????
LOLZ
Good morning.
Here’s a handful of stimulus items Republicans have listed as “wasteful”:
$500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.
• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into “green” buildings.
• $500 million for state and local fire stations.
• $850 million for Amtrak.
Well, Mike Huckabee eats roasted squirrel from a corn popper… he ain’t the brightest bulb in the box…
“Losie McLosenhimen”???
More like, “Lucy may lose a hymen.”
I guess the biggest thing with flat tax is that, yeah the tax it self would be simple but……..
so many other things would have to change for it to be fair.
Complicated controls on companies, changes to make pay fair. complicated regulations on minimu wages, on health care, on housing pricing, on cost on utilities, on pricing of food and other nessisties must also be controlled. not going to happen.
A flat tax can be progressive. You just have to set the minimum income at the right point. Say you don’t pay taxes on the first $50,000, after that there’s a flat tax. That would be very simple and progressive.
#188, I did google it. It was 155 households that paid little-to-no income tax in 1969 that spawned it.
That’s not 6% of households – there were more than 2583 households in the country in 1969.
#210 – OK – Steve Forbes uses a similar number…
#196 Capt,
Rachel is happily married to Susan Mikula, so Stephie is too late for that boat, it has already sailed…
Cheers,
mfaye
shaf, the bangle butt was the single most pedestrian addition to a car ever. It baffles how it became almost iconic, for its ugliness is mighty. Is it me, or does Bangle sound like he’s going to “spend more time with family”? Wonder who blackmailed him to leave, and with what…
I’m uploading more pictures from our trip to Pakistan
http://community.stephaniemiller.com/service/searchEverything.kickAction?keywords=pakistan&as=81991
“Well, Mike Huckabee eats roasted squirrel from a corn popper… he ain’t the brightest bulb in the box…”
Oh noes! I’m suppose to COOK the squirrel before eating.
I mean it makes sense and all but . . .
Milt Hussein,
I will defend Mike Huckabee on that. My wife has had squirrel, and she loved it. “Meat on the hoof,” she calls it.
The popcorn popper was a creative way to cook it in a dorm room.
I disagree with a lot of his policies, but not with his cuisine.
No… no exceptions. That’s part of the problem with the current tax code. No minimum income. The 8% I propose would still be less than poor people pay now, because that would replace all federal taxes, including payroll taxes.
I do NOT want to see McCain’s shrunken stimulus package.
#215, Steve Forbes, the noted progressive.
Hahahaha.
I think you start with income being anything you “earn” by way of working, inheritance, stock option value, etc. Everyone who makes more than X ($20,000 or whatever) pays a certain % of their income in taxes. On top of that, those who make more than a certain figure (let’s say, the top 10% or top 5% or whatever) pays extra. No way to get around it. No loopholes, nothing.
The problem with that, of course, is that the wealthy aren’t encouraged to donate to charity (they wouldn’t be getting a tax break for doing so).
I’ve got 10 more pictures to upload
Speaking of boosting the economy, suppose we had a health care system with a government backed policy, available to any and all. Now, think of all the smaller business which would benefit mightily from having their health care costs manageable. They could afford to HIRE people!
Nothing would preclude the wealthy having all the health care they want to pay for beyond that (it never has, anyway). And people with very good jobs could still receive benefits that included better than the baseline coverage of the universal health care.
And, consider that such a universal health care benefit would also be a boon to ANY business, including the larger ones..
I know, I know. It’s *socialism*, right.. Like the silly notion that the people actually own the wealth of the land, entitled to clean air and water, basic health..
Naw, I guess we need that plutocracy that has been installed and entrenched since the 60s, and really kicked in with Reagan in the 80s.
#213 – since that number is about $4000 above the mean income, nationally, the percentage of taxation above that point would have to be quite high… but not a bad idea, I think.
#216,
Still might be a better chance than Keith O.
Provided the existing marriage doesn’t endure.
I don’t understand why the Republican “class warfare” argument works. Of course it’s class warfare. What’s wrong with class warfare?
“I do NOT want to see McCain’s shrunken stimulus package.”
Well either does Cindy McCain – just look ta what it did to her eyes?
*runs screaming*
#217 Although some of his cues were softened in the latest generation of the BMW line, I agree, he really uglied-up the cars.
I love it when reasonable conservatives/republicans call in. It reinforces my faith in humanity.
#224, so the “flat tax” being proposed around here is slowly evolving into progressive taxation with only a couple tax brackets.
Once you have a tax table, why are 3 tax brackets any more complicated than, say, a hundred. Look up your income on the tax table, that’s what you pay. HR wants to know how much to withhold, do the same thing, adjust for allowances, divide by number of paychecks. Where’s the complication?
The complicated part of progressive taxation is not the tax tables. It’s the deductions. Tilt at the right windmill, people.
Regarding taxes, I’d be in favor of taking an objective look at the quality of life rankings on the world’s nations and then copying what the top country is doing. In 2006 the USA was ranked 23rd in quality of life. Scandinavia and most western European nations were well ahead of us.
Leave it to Republicans to argue that having a lower quality of life than “old Europe” is somehow a good thing!!
Forbes also exempted “unearned income.” That’s the problem with the current tax code; too much income is classified as “unearned,” and for some reason, ‘unearned income’ is not taxes, while income that people actually work for is taxed mightily.
Do you guys realize that almost half the people in this country are BELOW AVERAGE?
Those are the ones most vulnerable to being taken in the Republican propaganda, on Fox “News”.. And Limbaugh.
#224 – looks like you just defined our current tax structure there… (except for “loopholes” — and BTW – what some consider loopholes are really a way for the government to encourage certain behavior e.g. home ownership, charity, investment in retirement…)
GOP Stuck In Its Own ‘Groundhog Day’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=5902
#222 Dole-McCain Viagra Tour much?
We need a Smilin’ Bob stimulus package
Well, truth be told, I’d be happiest with everyone paying the same % regardless of income. But that makes people cry, so I thought the graduated calculation would at least appease some folks.
#235,
And the working people have to PAY taxes on their unemployment as income.
AAARRRGGGHHH!
Charlize Theron? I’m there!
#242,
Once unemployed – I mean.
236 – Strangely, half of the population is above average, and half is below average! Whodathunkit?
I dont think any amount of logic will swade Milt from the flat tax idea.
The trouble is not tax brackets.
It’s tax loopholes that had a company like Goldman Sachs, por ejemplo, pay 5% tax last year.
Flat tax is another boondoggle.
#241, that short-sighted notion of “fairness” leads to countries with great disparities of wealth and power. There are just too many examples of it to ignore.
The countries with the highest standards of living have – by your metric – the most unfair tax systems.
What I don’t get is this need to be “fair” to the rich. What’s the worst that happens when we tax the crap out of them: they’re STILL RICH.
Can’t imagine why that crappy movie went straight to video
245: and that “average” guy, he’s pathetic..
orthogonal interdimensional leap: I love it! Elmo asking who wants to have sex.. (on KTLA news break, sorry if you weren’t there..)
#245, actually, half the population is below the median, the other half above. By definition, actually.
Median and average are not the same thing. For example, median income is way smaller than average income, because the very wealthy bias the average upwards.
The 60 D’s is NOT filibuster proof – never was and never will be.
The whole thing is a contrivance.
*******
Only Peons Have To Pay Taxes (Limerick)
By Madeleine Begun Kane
I’m so sick of political sleaze
Who think they can do as they please.
Pay their taxes? Not them!
Be they right-wing or Dem,
With big friends their promotion’s a breeze.
http://www.madkane.com/madness/2009/02/02/peons-taxes/
The flat tax IS logical… income tax is the ONLY tax that isn’t flat. And it’s the only one people bitch about… think about that one…
“I feel like a fugitive from the law of averages.”
~ William H. Mauldin (1921 – 2003)
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.”
~ George Carlin
Come one now – we’ll pay our taxes and SPARTA in the shade!
SPAR – warming up – TA!
Ivan @ 250, “The internet is for pooorn…”
255 – How true
I was listening to Alan Colmes one night last week, when he was trying to get one of his wingnut callers to define normal when the wingnut started referring to one of Alan’s guests as abnormal… that was actually quite funny…
Kinda like dysfunctional families… ever seen a completely “functional” one?
My favorite tax idea is to eliminate income taxes and pay for government entirely with estate taxes. You let everyone keep all of their money from whatever source, until they are dead. When they are dead they don’t need it anymore, that’s when we get it.
You’d have to put restrictions on gifts and I’m not sure how to deal with the gold-digger problem, but I like the basic idea.
“If scientific reasoning were limited to the logical processes of arithmetic, we should not get very far in our understanding of the physical world. One might as well attempt to grasp the game of poker entirely by the use of the mathematics of probability.”
~ Vannevar Bush (1890 – 1974)
253 no offence Milt I don’t mean to sound like I am attacking you. It is just after studying the fact I have a fundamental disagreement that a flat tax is: a) possible to implement. b) simple c) fair
#248 – I personally think we should be fair to all citizens – “rich” or not (and how the hell do we define that anyway?)
But a “simple” tax law – or any simple law generally leads to many unintended negative consequences.
Hey capt, the repubs new motto should be, “Legislating Profit since 1980″, whatcha think?
#253, people bitch about it not because they pay it, but because they have to file for it, calculate deductions, and the like.
You’ve been suckered into the flat tax with the lure of tax simplification.
It would, alternatively, be possible to remake a progressive tax with a high standard deduction where you only need to file at all if you have unreported income, or are looking to maximize deductions. Most allowances and standard deductions could be taken at the front end.
People would stop complaining right quick if they didn’t have to file.
wow… I just found Fox News’ motto from 90 years ago.
“Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.”
—-Mark Twain (1835 – 1910)
#264,
Too true, it would never service their “liars port”
But a good one just the same!
Shane-O, you mean we can’t legislate using Occam’s Razor? (That’s okay, it was getting dull anyway
*skates*)
Steve Young writes a helluva column. And threw some great spirals to Jerry in the endzone too!
Steph on Rachel is way more attractive than Steph on the Lar, IMHO.
Heya Capt,
#230 I don’t give Steph much hope on that one as Rachel has been quoted as saying that she considers her relationship with Susan to be her most important accomplishment/thing in her life – oh well
Cheers,
mfaye
If you like porn, just watch the Super Bowl on Comcast, in Tucson…
We are getting close . . .
SPAR – warming up – TA!
The white type on dark background is starting to make my eyes bleed, owww
#263, I disagree on what is “fair”. The rich gain more of their income from exploiting the commons, whether it be infrastructure their commerce runs on, or the education of their workers. They impose greater proportional costs on government and society, whether it be the courts, the military, or the EPA.
I say it’s very fair they pay more, as a fraction of their income.
shaf, off to the penalty box for you..
Cheers,
mfaye
#268 – my fault – getting too serious.
I’ll pull out the silly string, clowns and a VW bug !!! YAY!
“ I don’t give Steph much hope on that one ”
That is my point – not much hope but still maybe more than a hope of marrying KO – I think he would have at least asked Mama out by now. I’m certain he knows of her interest.
6 more pictures to go
I just uploaded the pics of the ordnance factory gate
Heya Milt,
Do you live in Tucson? Did you catch that few seconds of porn during the Stupor Bowl?
Cheers,
mfaye
“The chief value of money lies in the fact that one lives in a world in which it is overestimated.”
—-H. L. Mencken (1880 – 1956)
shaf, anyone on the Lar is kinda ookie, don’tcha think? *shivers*
Are we up to Sparta yet?
Madonna dates Jesus…lol…Jeezus.
SPARTA
getting close
SPARTA
within 15 posts
SPARTA!!!
I hate the new login requirement where my email is in the login name.
Jesus Christ, that was funny!
No, Faye… I have a different cable company… but it’s all over the YouTubes, if you want to see it… and I was laughing at the news last night… all of those people who were “sick to their stomachs” at the thought of children seeing the picture of a man’s penis on TV… one of them actually said she wanted to change the channel, but she was too stunned…
Suddenly I’m posting all alone?
SPARTA!!!
SPARTA!!!
SPARTA!!!
capt is spartabombing again…
Hey capt; what is that avatar of yours?
Hi Bloggers, how’s the castle?
SPARTA!
#289 …’cause it was about our Savior, ya’ know.
This is SPARTAAAHHH!!!
Never before, maybe now? SPARTA
Ooops. It’s Sparta Time!
SPARTA!
From the Penalty Box…
We’ll SPARTA Live! Effin’ thing sucks!!
This is SPARTAAAHHH!!! again
Okay, here goes:
SPARTAAAAAAAA!
SPARTA!!!
SPARTA!!!
SPARTA!!!
SPARTA!!!
SPARTA!!!
MTL – thats HST! (my hero)
oh well…
so close.
Congrats, Laura.
Laura in Binghamton! Nice hit!
SPARTA zips past!
260 interestingly enough the estate / inheritance tax where implemented not so much as a way of getting income but based on democratic principles. When this country was first founded we where rebelling against the oppression of dictator ships end economic control aristocracy. The aristocracy got their place, worth and money as a matter of birth and people where judged on the basis on pedigree.
Our democratic experiment beleived we where born equal and we should obtain our station, wealth ect based on our merits. Thus an estate tax so that we all start out on an even playing field.
No need to explain why the rich oppose this idea, a mater of self preservation for their family line. of course they want to give them an unfair advantage. We must just realize that this is fundimentlaly undemocratic and anti free market.
Yay Laura! The newbie gets it!
Laura – :bows: well done!
Yay, Laura! SotD (Spartan of the Day)
*Bows*
Laura has brought honor and glory to Binghamton! Hail, Spartan! *cheers*
Laura!
WOO HOO – such a spartan!
I bow to you!
*bows*
Phelps career is sky high.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE
Loving the stoner laugh!
Yeah Michael Phelps – Rock on!!!
Cheers,
mfaye
munchies? 18,000 calories are no big deal…
If Michael Phelps was drunk and drinking a scotch, he’d be praised for being a great role model… suck on a bong, and he’s toast… this country is whack sometimes…
Listen, after over a decade of robotic commitment to his craft, let him bong away!
I don’t know how I feel about the Estate Tax. I am of the belief that if the society in which you were able to build your wealth has rewarded you generously, then you are obligated to give back.
Some of the rich do not give back, so taxes have been structured accordingly.
Let’s just get rid of for-profit health care. Let’s start with eliminating that insanity and then we can worry about the Estate Tax.
# 290 Milt “too stunned!” I’ve gotta rememebr that one
Cheers,
mfaye
266 nice quote
Too bad Phelps didn’t just come out and say that he smokes pot, and point out that it didn’t destroy his motivation.
*whispers in Laura’s ear* Now, wasn’t that fun?
321—-But athletes aren’t supposed to pollute their bodies. They do, but we don’t like to know they do.
321 Milt that is so true. Though he did get busted already for drinking and driving, not sure if it was a scotch though.
#324… yeah Faye, I was cracking up… apparently a man’s penis has the same effect on her as a spitting cobra… hehehe
#328 Yep, it’s tough to be a role model. If you show human failings, you are branded a hypocrite.
Oh shoot. I missed the whole SPARTAN thing! Auggie Doggie called (my son, my son) and I got distracted. Woo-hoo Laura! Me and my poochies howl in your honor.
331—that is true.
326…i couldn’t agree more. i haven’t taken a toke in my life, but would love to hear someone with his gravitas take a stand.
#328 — when I was 19, I used to hang out in a Fells Point bar called Ledbetter’s with pretty much half the Baltimore Colts at the time…. I guess I should have kept my eyes closed…
All British guys are gay. What’s the big deal?
you know i cant help but wonder if the whole bong thing would be handled differently if Phelps wasn’t white.
sounds like spunited! HA!
Oooooo! I hate Smunited Airlines! I have vowed never to fly with them again. I will pay the extra money and fly with Southwest or one of the others.
Jeez, if I paid for 1st class and got booted back to coach, you’re damned right I’d have a tantrum! Mama is blameless in this.
Better he was sucking on a bong than on a dong.
THAT would drive the homophobes nutz!
(I crack me up!)
337—He would have gotten less press if he hadn’t broken such an Olympic record. I don’t think skin color would have made a difference. It was because he did such a once in a generation thing.
There’s a city/town/whatever in the LA area named “Placenta”?
Wow – lots of blazing, flaming RED here on a progressive website. Maybe it’s just me, but it’s kinda hard to read the white on the maroon background…kinda dark. Home page looks good as far as the organization of information and links, but the red & maroon, oy…
VICE:
Let’s get it straight about Michael Phelps. This is about **controlling vice** & privacy.
When corporations can destroy you…
When government & corporations have obliterated a culture that respects privacy…
When YOUR choices of enjoying YOUR OWN BODY are *criminalized*…
how can we live in a representative government? who is immune to EVERY VICE? every enjoyment of their body? who decides WHICH vices are ‘legal’?
why a SOCIETY DOES.
But a society with criminalized vice without a Will for Privacy is a society where NOBODY can REPRESENT PEOPLES’ interests against money & power.
…without the RIGHT TO CHOOSE HOW YOU LIVE IN YOUR BODY…
…without a society that values PRIVACY (not *just Americans* the US has spied against ANYONE who used digital media or communications, folks… just wait until the Rest of the World figures THAT out… )
… then there is no REPRESENTATIVE BALANCE against money & power .
Oh, please… black people don’t smoke weed… I don’t think skin color matters in this case. The media is bent on building people up, and then destroying them the first chance they get.
“The United States has become a place where entertainers and professional athletes are mistaken for people of importance.”
~ Robert A. Heinlein
#343 – “PlacentIA“
Btw… the above was sarcastic… just in case you think I’m serious…
There’s a city/town/whatever in the LA area named “Placenta”?
Featuring cooking just like Mom’s, dispensed through a tube?
Gaaaaaah! Brain bleach, pls.
“As an athlete, when you least expect it, you may find yourself standing on the threshold of an accomplishment so monumental that it strikes fear into your soul. You must stand ready, at any moment, to face the unknown. You must be ready to walk boldly thru the wall of uncertainty.”
~ John “The Penguin” Bingham, The courage to start
(live free to bong AND inhale!)
“Please tel me whyyyy, my car is in the front yard. I’m sleeping with my clothes on. I came into the window last night and you’re gone. Gone.”
I love this song too.
#347 capt – I grok that.
350—Placentia. It’s Spanish, not obstetrical!
Got a Meeting – gotta run, keep on keeping on crew…
Cheers,
mfaye
“350—Placentia. It’s Spanish, not obstetrical”
I’ve been to Placentia – it’s both!
BlueBerry Pick’n, hi there! *waves* It’s nice thoughts, but the privacy aspect of it is already toast. Privacy is dead, RIP. I don’t think that genie will ever get back in the bottle, save the complete destruction of the internets. Just my opinion, of course.
I don’t do any drugs, except a minimal amount of alcohol, occasionally. but if someone wants to that crap to himself or herself, in private, who cares? Legalize, regulate and tax drugs and prostitution, and you not only balance the budget, but you put organized crime out of business. There, I said it… sue me…
Adios, amigas y amigos..
Off to my weekly doctor visit.
Wishing you well.
I love you guys.. (line from “Hoosiers”)
Back atcha mfaye. Come back soon.
Ciao for now mfaye! Hurry back ASAP!
342 Personally if anything he got off easier because of his ethnicity. Anyone remember how hard everyone came down on a certain football player from Miami…
That said in both cases they make a big deal because they are athletics’s thus “role models”.
The country gave the democrats a mandate and we are waiting for it to be fulfilled. We need to wake up the GOP and ask why they are being obstructionists in moving the country forward. 8 years of republican rule has driven the country into the ground and they clearly wish to stay stuck in the past and protect their own interests. It’s great to build a rapport and be inclusive but at some point leadership in making the hard decisions has to happen and they can join us….or not
athletics = athletes
Wouldn’t be more accurate to say the the GOP is for fascism since they’d like outsource government services to a few powerful corporations (Halliburton, anyone) and weaken regulatory controls and oversight?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placentia,_California
P.S. When you read this you will read a common thread through CA history. The White Man took every town from the Mexicans. You should read the history of L.A. sometime. It was all about White developers taking land from the Mexicans. It’s sad.
Nonetheless, that doesn’t give Mecha a right to dislike all white people. I didn’t steal a town from anyone.
Adios Ivan! we’ll miss ya until we meet again!
I didn’t mean to call you that…
I didn’t mean to call you fat…
I didn’t mean to call you dad…
… any of those will work
Oh no. Now Ivan Louise Hussain Biggin is leaving. Hope your doctor visit is a calm and uneventful one.
#358,
Right on!
I agree
It’s not the screaming babies on Spunited. It’s the angry flight attendants. After all, if Spunited treats its customers so badly can you imagine how they treat their employees?
#358 again I find myself agreeing with Milt. I think its only on taxes that we disagree lol.
Bye, mfaye and Ivan! *waves*
When I flew back from Australia, it was supposed to be Qantas, but I think it was screaming baby… must have been a dozen INFANTS on that plane… THIRTEEN HOURS!!!
The breezeway? Do you mean the jetbridge??
Died, no.
Wanted to die, yes.
LOL reminds me of those scenes in Airplane! when the guys next to Stryker kept committing suicide
Hey…! Lavort…! I was listening to yesterdays podcast (only $4.95 a month if you buy a year in advance) and you dissed Crocs. I wear Crocs every day at work in intensive care. I LOVE CROCS! You irrational hatred of Crocs offends me deeply. You hate Crocs, You hate me. I am Soooooo offended that I will NEVER buy Lavort cheese, so there!
Deb — or jetway
374 – Some CBT would at least distract you from all those screaming babies
We call them jetbridges at work, but yeah jetway works too.
LOL Rod “Tell it to my Heart” Blagojevich
Okay I’m done for today – one more upload tomorrow
http://community.stephaniemiller.com/service/searchEverything.kickAction?keywords=pakistan&as=81991
FYI on Jim’s Cartalk reference – He did voice work on the short-lived MPT cartoon show.
milt @ 374, my worst was 20 hours to Mumbai (it was Bombay then) with a young widow who was beyond consolation. She wailed most of the way there. I felt bad for her and didn’t really get mad, but man, were we all totally groggy when the plane landed…
Blago is starting a new business – selling reproductions of his hair-do as bowling ball cozies.
Sorry, Mark… I’m with Chris… Crocs… ick…
#384 -
MPT = PBS
#385,
No small wonder the ultra-rich fly private jets!
#387 – me too. I’m sure that they are comfy, but they remind me of gardening shoes.
378—my sister loves Croc’s too. I’ve never tried them. I need shoes with more support. I love Earth Shoes.
A cartalk cartoon — I wondered what the hell they were thinking…
Oh, leo… condolences.. with me, the plane left Brisbane at noon, and I purposely stayed up all night, so that I could sleep on the plane, since it was getting into LAX at 7 AM… every time I started to fall asleep, a different kid would scream.. and I’m talking blood curdling TEETHING screams…
They should have soundproof rooms for these people… and no one should travel that far with an infant unless it’s absolutely necessary…
DIGRESSION ALERT: I think I’ve come up with a faux-locale for the uber-conservative…The Onion Belt.
anyone seen flombaye lately?
I had an awful thought yesterday and I hope it’s not true.
pot laws do several important things:
they remove independent thinkers from voting rolls (ooh! you’re a CRIMINAL!!)
they kill belief in a socially responsible legal or community policing
they ALLOW THE CIA & DEA to *militarize & maintain their own control* of the millennially old trade in organic vices so they can let the ATF protect controls for the ‘permissible trade’ for the domestically rich Republicans.
they also allow the CIA & DEA to black fund the crap that even the Congress (who funds WHINSEC / School of the Americas, thank you very much!) doesn’t want to admit supporting.
Your money: killing democracies & indigenous social structures GLOBALLY.
thanks.
#378 sorry crocks may be compfy but they are toys, not shoes. They are ugly and unprofessional looking. IMHO
386: LOL
Mark, if it helps, I also find cowboy boots to be ick, as well…
I used to have a picture of a croc wearing human feet – pretend I posted it HERE
#394 DIGRESSION ALERT: I think I’ve come up with a faux-locale for the uber-conservative…The Onion Belt.
Which obviously includes the State of Denial.
You know I like my big fluffy bunny slippers and I wear them in my house. But what would people say if I wore them in public, and would anyone take me seriously at work if I had them on? hmmmm. just food for thought.
maybe blogo can manufacture hair helmets http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hair+Helmet
he’s already the model
Car Talk is two witty engineers talking about automobiles. They are not two comedians who happen to have gone to MIT. I’ve been listening to Click & Clack for years — anyone else remember the Save The Skeet Foundation?
It never, ever, occurred to me that a cartalk cartoon was something I’d want to watch. In fact, I saw about 3 minutes of one, and that was it.
Car Talk is witty talk about cars. This does not translate to cartoon ratings gold.
Oops, ranting again. Sorry. *skates* hey capt, can we move one of the fainting couches to the penalty box?
“I had an awful thought yesterday and I hope it’s not true.”
Perish THAT thought?
What were you thinking? (wringing hands)
The Onion headline today describes the start of the end of my marriage, tee hee.
http://www.theonion.com/content/index
When I see people wearing cowboy boots or dressed in complete cowboy wear
“You know that Halloween is October 31st, right?”
401: YES! In Coward (of the)County.
“can we move one of the fainting couches to the penalty box?”
Now, under the “new” mamanement system – you have to send a memo to George and ProducerChris to get approval.
UGH!
capt – flombaye said he’s living in Pakistan and we haven’t seen him since the American UN worker was kidnapped
#390 lol they are gardening shoes, at least that is what they originally where designed for. People for some reason just started thinking it was ok to wear them in public.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING POT LAWS ACCOMPLISH:
they give cops a ‘reason’ & justification for VIOLATING YOUR RIGHTS
just remember, VICE is a personal decision, not a gateway to terrorism.
its the garbage of ‘criminalizing vice’ that permits power & money to *terrorize you & activists*
Think about Eliott Spitzer.
think about wiretapping, financial records surveillance & BIOMETRIC CATALOGUING projects funded by private ‘intelligence’ services & your government.
if pot stays illegal: its just one more way to intimidate & perpetrate violence against environmental, corruption, peace & corporate oversight activists.
… more interestingly: why do you suppose so much money goes into pot criminalization & militarized social ‘oversight’ over the choices you make for your body?
because… somebody with money wills it so.
404—I love Car Talk because they frequently point out all the awful truth about auto repairs. Like when a caller tells them all about a car problem and they say in a clever way, “You’re screwed. Your mechanic screwed you. The dealer screwed you. hahahaha”
But they say it all in such a funny way.
407—you must not live in Texas.
So I’m not liking this new site. It’ arbitrarily stuck my age at 49, and I see no way to change it.
Is that a conspiracy to make Step feel younger?
kar, I’m also a big fan of Click and Clack.
#404 – I agree. Car Talk is a highly amusing radio show. The tv program – not so much. Real, caller-supplied material works. Fakey, silly scripts didn’t.
phelps!
“flombaye said he’s living in Pakistan and we haven’t seen him since the American UN worker was kidnapped”
Let’s hope flombaye has just been busy.
#411 – Aha!! They have a lot of holes in them though…would let in lots of water and dirt as you garden…
damn i was trying to get phelps on 420 lol
More like Palin – they mean Michael Palin not Sarah!
lolololo
Yes! Embrace Caribou Barbie, GOPpers! Go into the light!!!!!
Dutch wooden shoes are the best gardening footwear.
Have been since – well – forever.
capt, I’ll get right on that *grabs couch and lugs to box*
Inad @ 407, dude, you don’t do that here. We have actual cowboys and ranchers and farmers here, we’re still a pioneer town in a lot of ways ^_^ Boots and jeans and hats aren’t costumes, they’re work uniforms.
Oh geez. Republicans, too many business majors, see everything as a marketing plan.
If people die it’s a marketing plan failure. If they loose their homes it’s a marketing plan failure.
I got it!
Dear Jim,
I double dog dare you to conflate Eric Cantor, the right wing nutjob, with Eddie Cantor, famous comedian and singer, and also the guy who created the Merrie Melodies song you play for Right Wing World.
420—I think they are beach shoes. Thus the holes.
412. BlueBerry Pick’n says:
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING POT LAWS ACCOMPLISH: they give cops a ‘reason’ & justification for VIOLATING YOUR RIGHTS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Can’t agree more; we’re all so giddy with Obama in office, we still haven’t overturned the illegal wiretapping, nor restored habeus corpus.
Marijuana Reform Is Part of the Progressive Agenda, So Why Are Obama’s Drug Cops Already Making Pot Raids?
By Paul Armentano, AlterNet. Posted January 28, 2009.
“Pot-reform activists have swarmed Obama’s Change.gov, and huge majorities voted for pot reform in election ’08, but no change yet from Obama.”
http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/123133/marijuana_reform_is_part_of_the_progressive_agenda%2C_so_why_are_obama%27s_drug_cops_already_making_pot_raids/
Joe the plumber is the man with the talent/skill to save the GOP from the crapper?
lolololo
Well north of the mason-dixon line cowboy boots are just laughed at.
In fact the Joe the Plumber think tank it is very reminiscent of a septic tank.
It wasn’t extortion, it was a request. Obama is not obliged to continue with Gregg.
416—I’m guessing most of us here are probably lovers of NPR in general. Long form, intelligent journalism. So old-fashioned.
Obama has said he is against legalizing pot. He is in favor of medical pot but that is a little different.
Well GOP with Joe the plumber… yet another thing they get right…(rolls eyes)
hey though I guess the more they do this the more out of touch they are…better it is for the country. I say go for it with palin and bob.
Lots of cowboy costumes here in NM – the best and most authentic are worn by Mexican nationals not fake wannabes from Texas.
Torture Chic: Why Is the Media Glorifying Inhumane, Sadistic Behavior?
“During the Bush years there was an increase in torture imagery in popular culture — a growing acceptance of violence as routine and effective.”
By Maura Moynihan, AlterNet. Posted February 3, 2009.
http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/124739/torture_chic%3A_why_is_the_media_glorifying_inhumane%2C_sadistic_behavior/
423—I think Sarah Palin would be a wonderful nominee for Pres. in 2012. I hope the GOP goes with her. Then the press will take the gloves off. It would be great fun to watch!
Reminder: Tomorrow night at 9 pm EST PBS is airing “George Carlin: The Mark Twain Prize”.
Well north of the mason-dixon line cowboy boots are just laughed at.
Yes, as well they should be.
capt (and everyone) go here
http://community.stephaniemiller.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4673383&as=81991
if flombaye’s stephspace site is set up like many are if you email him he will get a copy at it at the email address he designated. Hopefully that will be his major often used email address.
if you DON’T SMOKE POT…
why is it you don’t care about pot smokers?
do you really think the canary in the coal mine of human & employee rights isn’t exemplified by the ‘we don’t need privacy culture’ social abuses of your fellow citizens who do smoke pot?
really?
just remember: they don’t have to FIND POT to get a no knock warrant.
they just have to say they THINK YOU HAVE IT to bust in your door with militarized efficiency & deadly ‘I’ve got my game face & gear on’ anxiety
442 thanks demdame i will have to catch that.
There are a lot of morons that have never set foot on a field or a farm who like to play dress-up and pretend they’re cowboys. Those are the folks to whom I refer.
There are lots of cowboy boots north of the Mason-Dixon line… I’m thinking Colorado, Wyoming, Montana and Idaho, for starters. But they’re uncomfortable and make your feet stink… ick… I wore them for a month once many years ago… never again…
Okay, now about those pot laws: one unintended consequence (UC) of legalizing marijuana for medical use is that the black market criminal element then infiltrates every aspect of the legal market, or tries to. I belong to a group here who teaches each member to grow for themselves if they can (sadly, I cannot.) I’ve gotten ripped off by each and every grower I’ve tried, simply because the lure of black market money is too great.
If you’re going to legalize for medical use only, then you must include a price-regulated pharmacy system as well.
BTW, have ya’lls heard Christian Bale’s f-bomb-riddled tirade on the set of Terminator Salvation? ProducerChris will need to do some serious “bleep” work before this can air.
This is definitely NSFW (Not Safe For Work) unless you have earphones on:
http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/02/bale-went-ballistic/
I dont want to be too harsh on cowboy boots. I would be perfectly fine with them if you where actually riding a horse when you are wearing them.
That rimindes me have you ever seen someone in cowboy boots trying to walk on ice and snow. one of the funniest things ever. Its like watching a girl wearing high heals while walking on the beach. lol
Excuse me, the correct word is not “pharmacy” but “dispensary.”
HEY Mitt. I grew up in Colorado and my cowboy boots were one of the most comfortable shoes/boots I’ve ever owned
I was noticing all the Obama ’08 yard signs still up everywhere, (which makes me very happy) so I made this video, based on Will Farrell’s “Landlord” -yes, that’s my cute little 2 year old- yes, I’m probably going to hell for this. Hope you get a laugh here…http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/d474cc5b6f/the-obama-sign
450—I think that was the film crew getting back at Bale. I’ll bet one of them sent that to TMZ.
450-Good morning, All. I haven’t heard about the tirade, but I’m not surprised.
LeoRising: “egalizing marijuana for medical use is that the black market criminal element then infiltrates every aspect of the legal market”
you make it sound as it that’s not the point. as yourself: exactly what does the DEA & CIA do if it isn’t making profits off that criminalization?
gee, the military industrial complex makes a fortune off it.
& the DEA & CIA get to have… all the drugs they want to their own trafficking & financing purposes, right?
sure, some other folks are making money… but the CIA & DEA ENSURE that those are the meanest MthrFKers on Earth who do…. just the kind of folks they understand & with whom they can do business.
#447 Ironically, I grew up on a farm and rarely wear “farm clothing” (Carhartt clothing, tractor caps, etc.). Guess I just outgrew it.
I’m going to renew my mmj card tomorrow, btw. It’s costing me $140, and I’m lucky, that’s discounted because I get food stamps. It’s not the state charging the fee (with the discount it’s only $20!), it’s the “foundation” set up to provide you with a “pain management specialist” MD who will sign your paperwork for you. Most PCPs in the state are scared of Federal law and will not sign their patients’ mmj paperwork.
453 Really Cindy? Ever wear sneakers or dare i say…. crocs
Ugh.
Is this a threat????
Can’t they be smart and silent?
Cuz really, I hate when political news shows turn into E!
LeoRising.
ask yourself: doesn’t it just put you in a database & under the control of anybody who wants or can get access to that data?
its not as if the FBI isn’t **demanding** other nations cough up all the biometric & privacy data they get on their citizens…
can you say, “server in the sky”? you should, because the American taxpayers pay for it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jan/15/world.ukcrime
Blueberry, I was agreeing with you. Easy. Here, have a cuppa tea…
you could record interviews at other times and play them the next morning.
Thank god for morning shows. (o.O)
454—I’m sorry, but that’s not funny to me. The innocence of children lasts for a short time. When she gets into middle school she will hear language and learn about things that you may not even be able to imagine now. Why expose her to the lack of control and lack of peace that so many of us adults suffer from when she’s only two? She should be learning her colors and letters. Not swear words.
I’ve been an elementary school teacher. I get pretty huffy about these things. Sorry.
Mama practices JIT (Just In Time) production for the show.
OK, I’m off. Take care all.
Here’s the thing:
Republicans do not want 9 million new jobs created.
Republicans do not want 9 million new small businesses, which could hire people.
Democrats are willing to do either; just tell them what you want.
Republicans want the number of employers to say the same, and want the employees money to be fed back into the hands of Thurston Howell and his family.
Bye, kar. Have a good day!
Scrotum!
Blueberry @ 463, yes, it does put me in a database. Buying it on the black market can put me in the poor house, and possibly the morgue.
And besides, I’ve given up on the practical concept of privacy. It’s not the crime they come after so much any more, as the person. One investigates the person to find a crime, these days. My best bet is to stay as legal as possible and fly under anybody’s radar. As long as I don’t piss anyone off, I’m good. 1984? Why yes, why do you ask?
bye kar
straydogma
1st off I loooooovvvve boots
I have worn sneakers all my life
I have sneakers now, except they are the over 800 New Balance pairs meaning that they are just one tick softer than four 2x4s tied to your feet.. which explains why I don’t wear crocs
bye kar! *waves*
At least Chapman didn’t end up handcuffed to his steering wheel on the 405.
Aren’t all masturbators by definition “in the driver’s seat”??
skates
The Dog and his crew … First racism, not public masturbation … hmmmmmm
THANK YOU KAR — I disliked that too! For that very reason
Good one, scooter!
#477 Guess he prefers his stick to the automatic!
Wow
Mormons spent 100x as much as they admitted on Prop 8
… and when exactly do they lose their tax exempt status?
Gee – how Christian of them…lying, manipulation, misinformation…
I wonder how much $$$$ Warrens “church” paid to prop up prop 8?
LOL Homo, Lesbo, and every other kind of Bo
#483 Another example of why I no longer consider myself “religious”.
472 its true but sad. we have gone from a culture of investing crimes to find any possible people involved, to investigating people to see if we can find any possible crimes in witch they could be involved.
Gee I wonder if that guy has BillO books in his home
In fact the orginal “Pearl” has now retired after doing the “interrogation video” .. and I think it’s because “preal” is repeating all those words in preschool and is getting her parents in major trouble.
Hopefully she will relearn that you can’t say those things (even though her parents fed her the lines and she received praise for saying them) because it will be SHE that gets into trouble in kindergarten and elementary
WhoTF punches a ballerina?
I just posted my take on Judd Gregg’s nomination on my blog, http://www.pleasecutthecrap.com .Enjoy, folks…
#486- Me too….
454-I’m with Cindy and Kar.
come live here in MA, RI, NY .. you hear Russian all the time
John Bolton and David Duke shout-out from Rushbo!
“WhoTF punches a ballerina?”
Depends on the punch? Fruit punch?
On noes – am I being tu-tu much?
Dude on match.com ad got the joke wrong!
Knock, knock.
Who’s there?
Interrupting cow.
Interrupting cow wh-
MOOO!
Dork. It’s a good joke.
Sarah in Santa Cruz what’s your stephspace page address?
capt, nice to see you’re keeping on your toes!
Famous Anus
#497 My favorite knock-knock joke of recent:
Knock-knock.
Who’s there?
Control-freak. OK, here’s the place where you say “Control-freak who”?
498-I’ll have to get back to ya … (I’ll be right back.)
A good clean joke:
Why does Buckwheat wash his clothes in Tide?
Because it’s too cold out-tide o’tay?
lolololo
GAHHHH .. a palinism
“capt, nice to see you’re keeping on your toes!”
That’s my point, on point. Pointedly!
*spins round arms in the air!*
Playing in the new website, I came across this.
http://community.stephaniemiller.com/_Yes-We-Shall/video/503969/81991.html
I love the internets.
I’ll take a date with Charlize, thanks
demdame you still here?
Yes. I’m here. Just reading the other posts. What’s up?
No Cheney is not stupid…just evil.
demdame I just wanted to say I’m with you and hope everything is okay … we are also hoping rounds of layoff spare my husband too.
Cheney and Bush LIED to start a WAR.
That isn’t nearly as bad as saying you’re selling a senatorial seat, eh?
(sarcasm)
blogo was stupid
Black Swede? Wasn’t that a cologne sold back in the 80′s?
Wait, that was Black Suede, nevermind.
#511 Cindy – I haven’t heard from my husband yet this morning. I don’t know if that’s a good or bad sign. Is your husband’s co. doing layoffs now or soon?
How is having to replace Gregg with a GOP NOT a quid pro quo?
yes but it may be a really really a liberal Republican
Daschel = Blago
Chris is right. Removing the incumbent Gregg almost assures a Dem win next time around. Plus the Gov. can perhaps appoint a RINO-Repug?
#517 yes but it may be a really really a liberal Republican
Is that on the order of a Bigfoot sighting?
demdame -
yes, they started in November, I wrote about it here “When you have a moment, we need to talk.”
Question of the day: Why is “Unfunny McHorseface” so bitter and angry after the election of BHO? After all, as McHorseface has repeatedly said, the Libs “won”!
Answer: Since the election the only name that has resonated again and again is Rush Limbaugh. “El Rushbo” has gotten quite a boost since he was called out by the Prez. and the DNC.
And what about our “hostess” on the left/lib radio show? Barely even a mention from anyone. It’s almost as if she does not exist anymore.
No wonder that she is angry and bitter and full of hate.
I hope that someone finds a way to help poor McHorseface deal with this crisis.
#520 I am pretty sure you have a better evidence of Bigfoot than a liberal republican…
They want to sow the seeds from the very beginning that he’s a failure so that in 2010 and 2012 it’s already out there and cemented in the minds of some
#520 not that I believe either actually exists… lol
#521 Cindy – I will read you Daily Kos post in full after the show. But from what I’ve read so far, you’re both living with heavy hearts. I’m so sorry.
Next time anyone asks Obama or his people about Rush, they should reply, “Rush, who?” *nods*
524 I am pretty sure that is their strategy. Repeat lies until people start believing it.
This is the second time this hour the FoneShow ad has mentioned the inauguration in the future tense.
Look, I’m an optimist, but let’s not get into 2013 just yet.
I remember the days of Liberal Republicans. One of my mentors when I was younger was a liberal Republican. He was the one who told me, in 1974, that the main strategy of the “new” Republican Party was to disgust as many voters as possible and keep them from wanting to go to the polls and vote…
How they’ve evolved, huh?
sahf – you know there are, because it’s what the Republicans and limbaugh are feeding on .. they are getting them out of the party as fast as they can …. that;s what this struggle is all about … and right now the hyper partisan, extremem right winger anti intellectuals are winning
527
Or better still, “yes I love Geddy Lee”
My dears, as I’ve said before, they have to save their phoney-baloney jobs!
mitt my poli sci prof – a communist (in 1981) also told me that
ok i have been listening to steph on LTLK in LA. I keep hearing these commercials about illegal dumping. The way the say it on the commercial I cant help but keep thinking its illegal to go #2 in L.A.
#521 Cindy, my heart goes out to you and your husband. As an IT professional who endured three layoffs in ten years, I understand the feelings.
When we first got together, my hubby and I wouldn’t mention our exes by name. I would say “whatshisname” and he would say “whatshername”. Pretty juvenile, but we were both in our twenties and didn’t want to give our “others” any opportunity to affect our new happiness.
Maybe Obama should think about that regarding Rush.
498-Cindy, I think my StephSpace ID is just Sarah. Yesterday, I managed to upload a photo (double happiness character), and I asked capt how he liked John Fugelsang’s show, but that’s as far as I’ve gotten. My tech skills are pretty pathetic. (I don’t even know how to upload a photo to the live blog!)
Remember: Mama and technology, not on speaking terms.
demdame – well know we are kind of use to the feeling so
we are finding that we are cracking dark humor jokes a lot right now
This morning my husband came down wearing a pair of underwear I put in his drawer .. it had many many holes and he was asking what he should do with them .. I grabbed the hole at his hip and tore them to shreds and then told him to throw them away
I just invited them all to gmail…
sarah here you are
http://community.stephaniemiller.com/service/displayKickPlace.kickAction?u=4666248&as=81991&b=
demdame, the fastest way to shut down a borderline personality is to ignore them. They sort of go down in flames, or maybe like the wicked witch. “My evil, my beautiful evil…”
535 – LOL me too
Yeah, Cindy… the liberal Republican Senator was about to retire, because he was so fed up… I think that’s why he told me that…
The French Quarter had sprinkled the blood of a lamb on its doorposts before the Angel of Katrina passed over…
537-demdame, I worry that everytime the press says Rush’s name, he gets more attention and his power grows. (Who’s paranoid?)
this is a french man saying that NOLA was destroyed because of debauchery ?
irony much?
BTW, I downloaded cricket sound-FX that I used for a performance of Sam Shepard’s “True West”. I enhanced it to make then loader and more plentiful. It drove everyone crazy!
Can we spam-bomb “W”‘s e-mail, please?
No question that the modern Repug party is run by a pile of bible-thumpin’ mouth-breathin’ corporatists, but I think there are a few of the old-timey Republicans still left in the northeast. Didn’t quite a few registered Republicans vote for Obama?
522. Truth says: Question of the day: Why is “Unfunny McHorseface” so bitter and angry after the election of BHO? After all, as McHorseface has repeatedly said, the Libs “won”!
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Answer: because you still insist on posting here.
ProducerChris! Cleanup in aisle 522!
My wife had to wait on the phone 35 minutes to get through to MA unemployment todsy.
Sarah – no that WAS the way it was… but now it’s more point and giggle because we know how to answer him now
I picture W with his Wii playing “Dance Revolution” all day long. Laura is in the new room, reading a book and wearing earplugs.
#555 – new = next
bye all
548
That doesn’t explain the Mississippi Gulf Coast being wiped off the map though.
Double SPARTA?
Later, y’all… it was fun… have a great day
539-shāf, I looked at your profile on StephCast, and I feel like technology and I are from different planets, nevermind speaking terms. And I couldn’t find Cindy … or demdame … I’m going there now.
Have a good one, Friends.
Truth (yeah right) there is a place/group for you on Stephspace
http://community.stephaniemiller.com/_Republicans-and-Conservatives/group/77796/81991.html
go there
I meant to say that shāf’s profile was very cool. Especially loved the photos!
Great show and blog, everyone!
Have a super-d-dooper day! (jeez, why did I channel Barney?)
So that priest-who’s-now–a-bishop was saying that God hates black & poor people, is he? Or is that just the logical conclusion of his remarks that Katrina was the Wrath of G.O.D. ?
Awww, show’s over! And it was such a good show! You guys have just been brilliant today, too. Thanks for a good start — now go off and play!
*toddles off to chat room to see what’s cookin’*
^_^
Thanks, Cindy!
#563 Thanks, Sarah. Glad you liked then.
Okay, folks; will try to get my community page updated some later today.
Until then, have a snowy day!
Oh well. Have we reached 600 this year yet?
Bye bye everyone. Maybe I’ll see you in the chat room.
“ fastest way to shut down a borderline personality is to ignore them”
Please don’t ignore me – I’ll shut down.
The show is over, over?
#571 – Roger, roger. See you capt!
over at chat now
Go to the chatroom capt…
See y’all later. I’ll try to make the chat room tonight – if I get home…. s**w, s**w, beautiful s@@w.